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College Football Playoffs Discussion (12/16/24 Team Format)

Just sayin': Hell, there are at least 69 Power 4 teams now.

ACC: 17
BIG XII: 17
B1G: 18
SEC: 16
Independent: 1

I just see too many problems with determining who is in and who is out of the 30 team "super league". There are 138 teams in the NCAA Division 1 Football Bowl Subdivision (FBS). If you would put it up for a vote as to creating a 30 team super league and letting them control all the money; the vote would probably be (something like) 108 to 30 against it........ :lol:

Besides I don't really think that the individual schools in the Power 4 conferences really want a "super league"; I think they basically like the current/traditional conference format.

The idea is that no one else really gets a vote. You have 34 in the SEC and B1G now, plus ND and maybe a few ACC teams (Miami...?)

Those entities merge into a super league, negotiate with networks and make/enforce their own rules. Why would they give a fuck about the other 100 or so teams in FBS?
 
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The idea is that no one else really gets a vote. You have 34 in the SEC and B1G now, plus ND and maybe a few ACC teams (Miami...?)

Those entities merge into a super league, negotiate with networks and make/enforce their own rules. Why would they give a fuck about the other 100 or so teams in FBS?

I'm sure that the other 100 FBS schools wouldn't just take it in stride:

12 Types of Civil Rights Lawsuits (Examples and Laws)


as well as the refusal to play any of the football 30 Super League schools in any other sports; which could really adversely effect those 30 school's athletic departments.
 
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I'm sure that the other 100 FBS schools wouldn't just take it in stride:

12 Types of Civil Rights Lawsuits (Examples and Laws)


as well as the refusal to play any of the football 30 Super League schools in any other sports; which could really adversely effect those 30 school's athletic departments.

Suing is a rich mans game.

Who has more money?

and what are you going to litigate over? The B12 is going to sue the B1G and SEC for entering into a private business deal? How does that harm the B12? What trespass occurred?

Poverty conferences are free to go make their own tv deals.
 
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Suing is a rich mans game.

Who has more money?

and what are you going to litigate over? The B12 is going to sue the B1G and SEC for entering into a private business deal? How does that harm the B12? What trespass occurred?

Poverty conferences are free to go make their own tv deals.

This

If you're not in that top 40 concerning brand names...well, you're fucked.

Hell, I'd even say there are teams ALREADY in the Big Ten/SEC that should be shaking their boots at the prospect of a super league, but I'm admittedly a little short on knowledge regarding the legality of kicking a team out of a conference, that's a little more grey.
 
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I'm sure that the other 100 FBS schools wouldn't just take it in stride:

12 Types of Civil Rights Lawsuits (Examples and Laws)


as well as the refusal to play any of the football 30 Super League schools in any other sports; which could really adversely effect those 30 school's athletic departments.
Honestly the NCAA needs to stop raising the north Alabama's of the world to FBS. FBS needs contraction not growth of teams that can't afford it and can't even put 15-20k in the seats consisirently
 
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This

If you're not in that top 40 concerning brand names...well, you're fucked.

Hell, I'd even say there are teams ALREADY in the Big Ten/SEC that should be shaking their boots at the prospect of a super league, but I'm admittedly a little short on knowledge regarding the legality of kicking a team out of a conference, that's a little more grey.
I doubt the Big 10 or SEC kick anyone out. Only schools to leave would be ones who go Chicago route and basically say the money they are paying is not worth it. That's why they Big 10 and SEC are the winners in this. Their little sisters of the poor we're looking at you Rutgers/Vandy/Northwestern get opportunities similar schools in other conferences don't. It's why I'm not surprised Cal made a play for it. And am surprised Stanford didn't.
 
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Suing is a rich mans game.

Who has more money?

and what are you going to litigate over?
The B12 is going to sue the B1G and SEC for entering into a private business deal? How does that harm the B12? What trespass occurred?

Poverty conferences are free to go make their own tv deals.

I'd guess a large number of these 100 (or so) non Super League schools have a law school that produced thousands of alumni that would be more than willing to work "pro bono" to support their old alma mater. They would sue for the same thing the "Group of Five " conferences sued to get entry into the College Football Playoffs. The threat of antitrust litigation is the primary reason smaller conferences are legally guaranteed access. Because all FBS teams technically play on the same competitive tier, a total lockout would be deemed a restriction of trade and an illegal monopoly.
 
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I'd guess a large number of these 100 (or so) non Super League schools have a law school that produced thousands of alumni that would be more than willing to work "pro bono" to support their old alma mater. They would sue for the same thing the "Group of Five " conferences sued to get entry into the College Football Playoffs. The threat of antitrust litigation is the primary reason smaller conferences are legally guaranteed access. Because all FBS teams technically play on the same competitive tier, a total lockout would be deemed a restriction of trade and an illegal monopoly.

That is exactly what they are buying themselves out of right now.

They are working with Ted Cruz to buy the ability to restrict trade and collude. Why is it hard to imagine them buying the votes to get an anti trust exemption like the other major pro sports?

The very worst thing that happens is they give the poverty conferences some money to go away and do their own thing. The big 2 already take something like 60% of the revenue from the CFP without changing a thing.

It becomes a simple math exercise: The cost of buying an anti trust exemption vs the 40% subsidy to unproductive schools/conferences.

I'm guessing 40% of billions of dollars means the non super league teams are about to get a new deal whether they like it or not (meaning it's more cost effective to buy the politicians than pay the poverty schools).
 
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The 24-team College Football Playoff is good for the sport, even if it’s not evident right away​

The entire college football world doesn’t like the new 24-team College Football Playoff, but it’s a good thing.

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Why the 24-team playoff is a good thing

Now that we are going into a 24-team playoff next year, manye believe that it’s going to be watered down, and just an excuse to get mid-tier SEC teams to compete for a national championship. Early on, I would somewhat agree with you. Things are absolutely biased toward the SEC and, to a lesser extent, the Big Ten. Let’s break down what the bracket would have looked like in 2025.

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Are the first-round matchups sexy? Not particularly, but anytime you get two top-25 teams, it makes for good football. It also brings about some really intriguing matchups in round two, like Indiana vs. USC, Vanderbilt vs. Georgia, and Notre Dame vs. Ole Miss. Now, those would have been some really fun matchups to watch in the second round, and they would have been must-watch television, like the College Football Playoff was last year.

There is another element to the discussion as well. The more spots you add to the College Football Playoff, the more teams feel like they have a shot at realistically winning a national championship. That is good for the health of college football, especially with the same teams being the ones at the top seemingly every year. We’ve been lucky over the past three years, having six different participants in the national championship game, including non-traditional powers in the 21st century with the Washington Huskies, Indiana Hoosiers, and Miami Hurricanes.

It’s good to have new blood in the mix, and that will be a huge thing moving forward. The more teams that feel like they have a chance to win it if they get into the dance, the better it is for the sport. Now, NIL does matter a lot in this discussion, but donors have to have a reason to give their money. Indiana has the biggest alumni base in the country, but it took Curt Cignetti to get them to really dive in and contribute. Not every school is going to see that kind of success. The Texas Tech Red Raiders have seen a massive influx in donor funding, as did other schools, but it hasn’t resonated in the same way. Even with massive funding, you still need to perform on the field. That is still what’s most important.

Within that entire puzzle of NIL and an expanded playoff, talent and performance on the field is still the No. 1 driver of the entire equation. The one thing that has happened a lot throughout the playoff era is how much the recruiting has flattened overall. In a four-year sample size where I took specific years (20 years prior during peak BCS, first year of the CFP, last year before NIL began and last year), you can see how much recruiting has flattened out.

Year No. 1 Class No. 25 Class Where 2026 No. 25 Would Rank
2026 93.656 88.233 —
2019 94.675 87.574 25th
2014 95.358 87.941 24th
2006 93.914 83.868 9th
In fact, 17 teams landed a five-star recruit in the class of 2026. Plus, the transfer portal has prevented the traditional powerhouses like the Georgia Bulldogs, Alabama Crimson Tide, and Ohio State Buckeyes from having insane levels of depth everywhere. They don’t have a five-star sitting for two years behind another five-star before getting a real opportunity. Those players are now transferring to schools like the Missouri Tigers and Virginia Tech Hokies. Distribution of talent is much stronger across the board, which is better for the sport as a collective whole.

Now, will the distribution of talent get stronger overnight? Not at all, but the more schools that believe they can compete for a national title will start to, and recruits will start to buy into that. Coaching, development, and player retention will still matter the most when it comes to success, but the more teams who can field stronger rosters, the better for the overall health.

I don’t buy the idea that rivalries will die out or mean less to these teams. There are often 100+ years of hatred between schools. Earlier this year, the Kansas Jayhawks released a video before their big rivalry week game against the Missouri Tigers, reminding them that they were at one point pro slavery. These games mean more than just seeding for the playoff. Teams won’t bench their guys for these big rivalry games because they mean more. This expanded playoff won’t change that.

Look, is this the ideal scenario? Absolutely not, but there should have been a playoff system implemented 40 or 50 years ago, and we shouldn’t have had to wait until now to fix an issue that should have never existed.

This likely won’t be great immediately, but it will be healthier for the sport as a whole, and hopefully expand the sport outside of what everyone thinks it is right now: the SEC and the Big Ten. If you’re a fan of Boston College, Wisconsin, or Oklahoma State, this now gives you hope that your school has a chance.

Give it time, and it will be great, but as with most things, patience is needed.

Just sayin': I'm still against it.
 
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So the "PROs" of expansion are those "neat" first round matchups?.... Uh, those are the bowl games that use to matter, before playoff expansion. No way those teams should be allowed to win the Natty if they lose 1/3 of their regular season games.
 
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If we use the lense of the old CFB then this sucks.

If you look at it and say there is a tournament to crown the winner now and the regular season is just to qualify for the playoffs then what’s the problem? More teams, bigger tournament but same animal. A playoff.

It should have never been even a 4 team playoff if you wanted to keep the emphasis on the regular season.

regular season means about what the NFL regular season means now. Still have to win to get in and rivalry games are still intense but players will sit out sometimes.

Is what it is.
 
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