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Colin Cowherd (Official Ass Hat)

Carmen Ohio said:
I suppose you need to be a member to see the content. What's the gist of what he said?
Since it's not a pay site I'm assuming I can paste it right in.

Buckeyeinsideinfo said:
On the air today Colin addressed the ESPN versus Ohio State drama that has been unfolding for months. After the show he spoke further about this subject with BII: "I understand that people at ESPN have to do their jobs, I just thought they went overboard in the beginning. If OSU were the vortex of sin in College Athletics, why did the NCAA spend a year there and only find one thing." He continued: "College Athletics inherently has things that aren't perfect, but I judge a school by asking ‘are they trying to do it the right way.' I think Ohio State Football, in an imperfect system, is trying to do their best." Colin concluded this subject by saying: "ESPN chose to talk to people with an axe to grind against the University. And it's funny, the people that ripped me in emails for my show today were almost all Michigan fans." Cowherd also said that fellow ESPN personality Kirk Herstreit: "Has always been very gracious to me with his time. What I respect about him is that he really does his homework. He truly cares about what he says on the air." Colin also talked about the position Kirk was in throughout the entire Ohio State story: "His (Herbie) stance was, let's wait to see how this plays out. He got caught between ESPN, Ohio State and the NCAA. Don't blame a guy at a company for what the company does. Essentially, I work for Disney and it would not be right to blame me if you got over charged at Disney World."

<!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--><!--[endif]--> Colin concluded by saying: "The Ohio State-Miami (2002 National Championship) game is one of my personal five greatest sports moments. Lake Placid and Ali-Foreman are probably one-two, then Ohio State-Miami and the San Diego-Miami playoff game. Oh, and the '97 Arizona State-Ohio State Rose Bowl would be up there too. People forget how good of a college player Jake Plummer was. There were a lot of great plays in that game."
 
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http://espnradio.espn.go.com/espnradio/show?showId=theherd

There's the audio for this. It starts about 1 hour 7 minutes in. It's great to listen to him making fun of ESPN's coverage of the story, saying they thought about moving Outside the Lines permanently to the OSU campus.

He said that management at ESPN even called a meeting and told the reporters they weren't doing a good enough job "pounding the OSU story"
 
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osufootball727 said:
He said that management at ESPN even called a meeting and told the reporters they weren't doing a good enough job "pounding the OSU story"
That's thoroughly disgusting - "adversary journalism" at its ugliest.

edit: I shouldn't say that; there are uglier examples of adversary journalism.
 
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"ESPN chose to talk to people with an axe to grind against the University

I like Dan Patrick, but I was listening to him on 1460 today and he spoke to how the OSU fans needed to let this go and "move on". He mentioned that ESPN would not have run with this story on MCs word alone. He also conceded that, if mistakes were made, you had to put it in the same context as the recent Newsweek fiasco - it happens.

OSU fans have been trying to move on for over two years, but ESPN wont let them.

ESPN based their reports - particularly those during that horrid football game where they went on and on at every break in the action - on a carefully selected subset of formoer OSU players. Countless more had stepped forward and said that this was totally uncharateristic of JT and OSU. Time after time ESPN called for Geiger to be fired and JT to quit. Not once did they preface that with "despite the outpouring of support from former players....". I was quite disappointed that Patrick was completely unable to in any way see the bias of his own organization.

To compare sports events to real world life and death issues is always a bad idea, but if I were going to compare the ESPN-OSU episode to any 'real world' news event it would be the CBS National Guard story. I don't doubt that something funny did happen with Bush and the guard, but CBS compromised themselves to move an agenda. ESPN did precisely the same. Something funny may have happened at OSU. But in no way did it merit the attention or the vitriol it received.

And still they will not quit.
 
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I like Cowherd saying that ESPN was unable to decide whether they should send 16 or 19 frogmen to tOSU. And that Rumsfeld was going to call off the search for WMD in Iraq in order to look for trouble in Columbus. :tongue2:
 
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osufootball727 said:
He said that management at ESPN even called a meeting and told the reporters they weren't doing a good enough job "pounding the OSU story"
I don't see them "pounding" the real Ohio State stories like the Neil Shuff story.
They should have a whole reporting division dedicated to finding and shouting these kinds of stories from the rooftops - they happen at a lot of schools.
The public has a right and certainly a need to hear these kinds of stories as well. People need to know that many good things actually stem from athletics that go way beyond the field of play. But all we hear are the bad things.
 
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Oh8ch said:
I like Dan Patrick, but I was listening to him on 1460 today and he spoke to how the OSU fans needed to let this go and "move on". He mentioned that ESPN would not have run with this story on MCs word alone. He also conceded that, if mistakes were made, you had to put it in the same context as the recent Newsweek fiasco - it happens.

OSU fans have been trying to move on for over two years, but ESPN wont let them.

ESPN based their reports - particularly those during that horrid football game where they went on and on at every break in the action - on a carefully selected subset of formoer OSU players. Countless more had stepped forward and said that this was totally uncharateristic of JT and OSU. Time after time ESPN called for Geiger to be fired and JT to quit. Not once did they preface that with "despite the outpouring of support from former players....". I was quite disappointed that Patrick was completely unable to in any way see the bias of his own organization.

To compare sports events to real world life and death issues is always a bad idea, but if I were going to compare the ESPN-OSU episode to any 'real world' news event it would be the CBS National Guard story. I don't doubt that something funny did happen with Bush and the guard, but CBS compromised themselves to move an agenda. ESPN did precisely the same. Something funny may have happened at OSU. But in no way did it merit the attention or the vitriol it received.

And still they will not quit.

Uh, sure Dan, compare ESPN's story to Newsweek. Well, Newsweek retracted their story. Will ESPN? :roll1:
 
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Oh8ch said:
I like Dan Patrick, but I was listening to him on 1460 today and he spoke to how the OSU fans needed to let this go and "move on". He mentioned that ESPN would not have run with this story on MCs word alone. He also conceded that, if mistakes were made, you had to put it in the same context as the recent Newsweek fiasco - it happens.

OSU fans have been trying to move on for over two years, but ESPN wont let them.

ESPN based their reports - particularly those during that horrid football game where they went on and on at every break in the action - on a carefully selected subset of formoer OSU players. Countless more had stepped forward and said that this was totally uncharateristic of JT and OSU. Time after time ESPN called for Geiger to be fired and JT to quit. Not once did they preface that with "despite the outpouring of support from former players....". I was quite disappointed that Patrick was completely unable to in any way see the bias of his own organization.

To compare sports events to real world life and death issues is always a bad idea, but if I were going to compare the ESPN-OSU episode to any 'real world' news event it would be the CBS National Guard story. I don't doubt that something funny did happen with Bush and the guard, but CBS compromised themselves to move an agenda. ESPN did precisely the same. Something funny may have happened at OSU. But in no way did it merit the attention or the vitriol it received.

And still they will not quit.
Don't get me wrong, as I completely agree with you on everything you said, but I do understand why Dan Patrick is taking a stance here. If you listened to what he and Herby had to say after he brought this up, you probably understand. Patrick was slammed with callers and emails that didn't do anything but rip him and threaten his life. When fans of tOSU pull shit like that, it makes the whole university look bad. Herby has received all kinds of sick shit, including numerous death threats, from fans of the college he attended and STILL SUPPORTS. The media, or individuals in the media, are never going to be pro-OSU if they get death threats every time they even mention the school...and that is exactly what is happening. It's embarrassing, and it makes me sick.
 
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Clarett's cousin validates OSU's investigation. Clarett has left a number of carcasses along the roadside of his short life. I remember the board meltdown when Burgess chose Michigan, but Burgess in hindsite was one of the few people who had the sense to stay as far away from Clarett as possible. Let's go Tom Friend - let's see all of the evidence you have. I am flat out calling you a liar, so sue me and we will go from there. From the Dispatch:

Clarett did not talk to the NCAA
Officials had questions about his OSU allegations
Thursday, May 19, 2005
Aaron Portzline
THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH

The NCAA says it tried repeatedly but was not able to contact Maurice Clarett about allegations he made in an ESPN The Magazine article last November.

The "notice of infractions" sent to Ohio State on Monday was reached with no input from the former OSU running back, the NCAA acknowledged yesterday. Only one of nine infractions listed deal with the football program, and it doesn’t involve Clarett.

"Not once did Mr. Clarett respond to our repeated requests to meet with investigators or provide information," the NCAA said in a statement.

The governing body of college athletics said it tried but failed to reach Clarett via "cell phones, relatives, former legal representatives and friends," as well as in person.

A source close to Clarett confirmed the NCAA’s position and said Clarett avoided the NCAA.

"I think the magazine found Maurice at a low point in his life, and he said things he wishes he’d never said," the source said.

"More than anything, I think Maurice is ready to move on. He was getting ready for the NFL draft at the time (the NCAA wanted him to talk), and I think he was ready to put the Ohio State stuff behind him."

Clarett was taken in the third round of the NFL draft in April by the Denver Broncos. His agent, Steve Feldman, did not return calls seeking comment.

An Ohio State spokesman declined to comment.

Clarett’s refusal to talk with the NCAA may have hampered its attempts to investigate the football program, but the NCAA does not have subpoena power and therefore could not require Clarett to speak.

It is not known whether the NCAA would launch an investigation based solely on a magazine article. A spokesman wouldn’t answer that question yesterday, except to say: "We can investigate better if the interested party is willing to talk."

On Monday, the NCAA identified nine allegations in its investigations of Ohio State’s football and men’s and women’s basketball programs.

Ohio State has until July 26 to respond. In the fall, the charges will be aired before the NCAA infractions committee. Any sanctions will be announced within a month of the hearing.

Seven allegations involve the men’s basketball program under coach Jim O’Brien and assistant coach Paul Biancardi, now head coach at Wright State.

Another involves reports that women’s basketball players received free or discounted dental work from a Columbus orthodontist.

The one involving the football program concerns a $500 payment from booster Robert Q. Baker to Ohio State quarterback Troy Smith.

Ohio State, which learned of Baker’s payment to Smith in December, suspended Smith for the Alamo Bowl and the 2005 season opener against Miami University.

In the ESPN The Magazine story, Clarett alleged a slew of NCAA violations by football coach Jim Tressel and the OSU football program, including loaner cars, cash from boosters and money for no-show jobs.

The Ohio State hierarchy — president Karen Holbrook, athletics director Gene Smith, legal counsel Julie Vanatta and director of compliance Heather Lyke Catalano — was clearly relieved Monday when the lone football infraction was announced.

Former NFL player Vince Marrow, Clarett’s cousin and confidant, said he spoke with Ohio State compliance officials and NCAA investigators.

"They did a thorough investigation, I can tell you," Marrow said. "If there was something there, they weren’t trying to cover it up. I can tell you that, honestly.

"The questions they were asking made it seem like they were really trying to find stuff on Tressel if it was there. (Lyke) may wear scarlet and gray, but she went about it like she was an independent investigator."
 
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