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We'll that's one way to free up some roster spots. Back to the traditional 2 big lineup I guess.
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the 4 starters are easy... Osman & Okoro will swing starter/sub.. Rubio's role is clear... so is Love.. suspect they'll now keep Mobley's brother...
and still not happy LeVert is still here... altho now that little is needed/expected of him maybe he'll choke less
and still not happy LeVert is still here... altho now that little is needed/expected of him maybe he'll choke less
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NBA Trade Grades: Cavaliers Acquire Donovan Mitchell in Stunning Blockbuster
Cavaliers: A
I love this move! The draft pick fetishists (like my colleague Michael Pina) will try to convince you this was a bad trade. Don’t let them. The Cavs acquired a top-25 player with three years left on his deal, surrendering the corresponding number of picks in today’s trade market to acquire such a talent. And as a bonus, they didn’t give up any of the All-Star caliber players on their roster. Mitchell is an explosive scorer, which is exactly the kind of player Cleveland lacked next to Darius Garland last season. The Cavs tried to supplement Garland with Caris LeVert at the deadline. This move should be a little bit more effective.
The fit isn’t perfect. Mitchell and Garland will struggle defensively. Yet on paper, they make more sense as a scoring duo than, say, Trae Young and Dejounte Murray. And as far as defense goes, you know what should help Mitchell? How about instead of one Rudy Gobert, Cleveland can offer two in Evan Mobley and Jarrett Allen. That frontcourt should help cover up for some of the backcourt’s mistakes, and both Garland and Mitchell are young enough to improve on that end of the floor.
Offensively, Mitchell’s pull-up three-point shooting and pick-and-roll prowess should be a boon to the Cavs’ attack. He also gives the team a much better staggering option for the second unit. And both his and Garland’s shooting ability should allow them to seamlessly play off each other as long as they both commit to spending less time with the ball in their hands.
You also have to consider the larger factors at play here. How else was Cleveland going to improve? The roster is ahead of schedule, which makes trying to add star talent in the draft difficult. The city is not a free-agent destination. Mitchell may not be a perfect star, but then again those players rarely become available. It’s a worthy gamble for a small-market team to put together this much young talent. And if you’re an ahead-of-schedule team that isn’t a free agency player, it’s probably a better bet to go all-in on a 26-year-old, three-level perimeter scorer than say … a 30-year-old center with a questionable offensive impact.
This trade may not make Cleveland a title contender, still it brings them much closer than any other realistic move (save for another LeBron decision). Could the Cavs make the conference finals? Some things may have to break right, some teams may have to knock each other out, but it doesn’t seem out of the realm of possibility. Ultimately, as far as home run swings go, this is a sensible one for Cleveland.
Entire article: https://www.si.com/nba/2022/09/01/donovan-mitchell-cavaliers-jazz-trade-grades
Donovan Mitchell Trade grades: Who won the trade between the Cavaliers and Jazz
GRADE: B
This one is tough to grade. It feels like there’s no question the Cavaliers just improved with this trade. But when you really think about it? This is pretty risky.
The Cavaliers had 3 lineups in total that played at least 40 minutes together and had a collective net rating of +15.0 or better. Lauri Markkanen was in two of them. It gets better. The combo of Ricky Rubio, Darius Garland, Markkanen, Evan Mobley and Jarrett Allen was a collective +40.6 on the year. The sample is small — they only played 41 minutes together through 13 games. But it worked. It really worked. And now, it’s gone. Sacrificed to bring in a small scoring guard in Mitchell who doesn’t defend at a high level.
And, look. Mitchell is good. You don’t become a 3-time All-Star without being really good — especially in the West. But his backcourt pairing with Garland is questionable. The small guard thing didn’t work defensively with Sexton, so why would it work here? That’s a reasonable question to ask and one we’ll be saddled with all season long.
But, hey. When you can go out and get another All-Star to add to roster with two already in hand? You go do it. The Cavs are stacked and they should fight for homecourt in the East. The talent is there.
That’s why this is a B.
Entire article: https://ftw.usatoday.com/lists/donovan-mitchell-trade-grades-cavaliers-jazz
Grading Cavaliers-Jazz deal centered around Donovan Mitchell
Cleveland Cavaliers: B+
The Cavs paid a big price to acquire the three-time All-Star, but those draft picks won’t matter if the team emerges as a serious threat in the East. A backcourt of Mitchell and Garland will be explosive and fun to watch, albeit a defensive liability at times.
After making the play-in tournament last year, Cleveland is clearly trying to level up in an increasingly more competitive Eastern Conference. A starting lineup that includes Evan Mobley, Jarrett Allen, Darius Garland, and Mitchell is a good place to start.
Entire article: https://dknation.draftkings.com/nba...rs-jazz-details-picks-markkanen-sexton-agbaji
Cleveland Cavaliers trade for Donovan Mitchell in blockbuster deal with Utah Jazz; Evaluating the deal for both sides
Last year we saw the Cavs have no trouble on defense, holding teams to 105.7 points per game, the fifth-best mark in the NBA. One area they struggled once Collin Sexton went down with an injury, was putting the ball through the hoop. Well, that’s Mitchell’s primary specialty. He’s any team’s top scoring option, sliding Darius Garland into a bit more of a complementary role, but this backcourt scoring duo figures to be among the best in basketball.
Cavaliers projected starting lineup with Mitchell:
Cavaliers-Jazz trade details
Mitchell was already a great player in Utah, getting named to the last three All-Star teams. He should be even better in Cleveland.
This is the perfect fit for Mitchell, who does have some flaws to his game. Where Mitchell shines is as a shot creator. He's one of the best at putting pressure on the rim and as a pure scorer.
The Cavs were in desperate need of exactly that type of player. Their offense, which finished 20th in the regular season last year, was devoid of that punch outside of Darius Garland's strong playmaking and shooting. The team tried to address that specific weakness by trading for Caris LeVert mid-season, to mixed results. Mitchell is a huge upgrade on what LeVert can do.
Where Mitchell struggles is with decision-making and defensive intensity. But with Evan Mobley and Jarrett Allen cleaning up mistakes, those defensive issues should be mitigated. The Cavs had the No. 5 defense last season because of how dominant those two were. And Garland should be able to focus on setting up teammates more, alleviating the need for Mitchell to be a plus passer.
The top four for the Cavs of Mitchell, Allen, Garland and Mobley are immediately one of the most electrifying in the league. Those players are aged 25, 24, 22 and 21, respectively. They have three current All-Stars and one future All-Star. All four haven't even come close to hitting their primes.
The Cavs still do have some serious issues at the wing. Isaac Okoro is a good defender but very limited offensive player. He will likely start at small forward, and there aren't many better options behind him. Once they upgrade that position, then there is no reason why they can't be a top team in the East for the foreseeable future.
Entire article: https://www.sportingnews.com/in/nba...rades-cavaliers-jazz/ocfrkgzxiaphqpdrs71aizeh
Four of the five give the Cavs the higher grade.
Cavaliers: A
I love this move! The draft pick fetishists (like my colleague Michael Pina) will try to convince you this was a bad trade. Don’t let them. The Cavs acquired a top-25 player with three years left on his deal, surrendering the corresponding number of picks in today’s trade market to acquire such a talent. And as a bonus, they didn’t give up any of the All-Star caliber players on their roster. Mitchell is an explosive scorer, which is exactly the kind of player Cleveland lacked next to Darius Garland last season. The Cavs tried to supplement Garland with Caris LeVert at the deadline. This move should be a little bit more effective.
The fit isn’t perfect. Mitchell and Garland will struggle defensively. Yet on paper, they make more sense as a scoring duo than, say, Trae Young and Dejounte Murray. And as far as defense goes, you know what should help Mitchell? How about instead of one Rudy Gobert, Cleveland can offer two in Evan Mobley and Jarrett Allen. That frontcourt should help cover up for some of the backcourt’s mistakes, and both Garland and Mitchell are young enough to improve on that end of the floor.
Offensively, Mitchell’s pull-up three-point shooting and pick-and-roll prowess should be a boon to the Cavs’ attack. He also gives the team a much better staggering option for the second unit. And both his and Garland’s shooting ability should allow them to seamlessly play off each other as long as they both commit to spending less time with the ball in their hands.
You also have to consider the larger factors at play here. How else was Cleveland going to improve? The roster is ahead of schedule, which makes trying to add star talent in the draft difficult. The city is not a free-agent destination. Mitchell may not be a perfect star, but then again those players rarely become available. It’s a worthy gamble for a small-market team to put together this much young talent. And if you’re an ahead-of-schedule team that isn’t a free agency player, it’s probably a better bet to go all-in on a 26-year-old, three-level perimeter scorer than say … a 30-year-old center with a questionable offensive impact.
This trade may not make Cleveland a title contender, still it brings them much closer than any other realistic move (save for another LeBron decision). Could the Cavs make the conference finals? Some things may have to break right, some teams may have to knock each other out, but it doesn’t seem out of the realm of possibility. Ultimately, as far as home run swings go, this is a sensible one for Cleveland.
Entire article: https://www.si.com/nba/2022/09/01/donovan-mitchell-cavaliers-jazz-trade-grades
Donovan Mitchell Trade grades: Who won the trade between the Cavaliers and Jazz
GRADE: B
This one is tough to grade. It feels like there’s no question the Cavaliers just improved with this trade. But when you really think about it? This is pretty risky.
The Cavaliers had 3 lineups in total that played at least 40 minutes together and had a collective net rating of +15.0 or better. Lauri Markkanen was in two of them. It gets better. The combo of Ricky Rubio, Darius Garland, Markkanen, Evan Mobley and Jarrett Allen was a collective +40.6 on the year. The sample is small — they only played 41 minutes together through 13 games. But it worked. It really worked. And now, it’s gone. Sacrificed to bring in a small scoring guard in Mitchell who doesn’t defend at a high level.
And, look. Mitchell is good. You don’t become a 3-time All-Star without being really good — especially in the West. But his backcourt pairing with Garland is questionable. The small guard thing didn’t work defensively with Sexton, so why would it work here? That’s a reasonable question to ask and one we’ll be saddled with all season long.
But, hey. When you can go out and get another All-Star to add to roster with two already in hand? You go do it. The Cavs are stacked and they should fight for homecourt in the East. The talent is there.
That’s why this is a B.
Entire article: https://ftw.usatoday.com/lists/donovan-mitchell-trade-grades-cavaliers-jazz
Grading Cavaliers-Jazz deal centered around Donovan Mitchell
Cleveland Cavaliers: B+
The Cavs paid a big price to acquire the three-time All-Star, but those draft picks won’t matter if the team emerges as a serious threat in the East. A backcourt of Mitchell and Garland will be explosive and fun to watch, albeit a defensive liability at times.
After making the play-in tournament last year, Cleveland is clearly trying to level up in an increasingly more competitive Eastern Conference. A starting lineup that includes Evan Mobley, Jarrett Allen, Darius Garland, and Mitchell is a good place to start.
Entire article: https://dknation.draftkings.com/nba...rs-jazz-details-picks-markkanen-sexton-agbaji
Cleveland Cavaliers trade for Donovan Mitchell in blockbuster deal with Utah Jazz; Evaluating the deal for both sides
Last year we saw the Cavs have no trouble on defense, holding teams to 105.7 points per game, the fifth-best mark in the NBA. One area they struggled once Collin Sexton went down with an injury, was putting the ball through the hoop. Well, that’s Mitchell’s primary specialty. He’s any team’s top scoring option, sliding Darius Garland into a bit more of a complementary role, but this backcourt scoring duo figures to be among the best in basketball.
Cavaliers projected starting lineup with Mitchell:
- PG – Darius Garland
- SG – Donovan Mitchell
- SF – Isaac Okoro
- PF – Evan Mobley
- C – Jarrett Allen
- Cleveland Cavaliers trade grade: A
Cavaliers-Jazz trade details
- Cavaliers receive: Donovan Mitchell
- Jazz receive: Lauri Markkanen, Ochai Agbaji, Collin Sexton, three unprotected first-round picks (2025, 2027, 2029), two pick swaps (2026, 2028)
Mitchell was already a great player in Utah, getting named to the last three All-Star teams. He should be even better in Cleveland.
This is the perfect fit for Mitchell, who does have some flaws to his game. Where Mitchell shines is as a shot creator. He's one of the best at putting pressure on the rim and as a pure scorer.
The Cavs were in desperate need of exactly that type of player. Their offense, which finished 20th in the regular season last year, was devoid of that punch outside of Darius Garland's strong playmaking and shooting. The team tried to address that specific weakness by trading for Caris LeVert mid-season, to mixed results. Mitchell is a huge upgrade on what LeVert can do.
Where Mitchell struggles is with decision-making and defensive intensity. But with Evan Mobley and Jarrett Allen cleaning up mistakes, those defensive issues should be mitigated. The Cavs had the No. 5 defense last season because of how dominant those two were. And Garland should be able to focus on setting up teammates more, alleviating the need for Mitchell to be a plus passer.
The top four for the Cavs of Mitchell, Allen, Garland and Mobley are immediately one of the most electrifying in the league. Those players are aged 25, 24, 22 and 21, respectively. They have three current All-Stars and one future All-Star. All four haven't even come close to hitting their primes.
The Cavs still do have some serious issues at the wing. Isaac Okoro is a good defender but very limited offensive player. He will likely start at small forward, and there aren't many better options behind him. Once they upgrade that position, then there is no reason why they can't be a top team in the East for the foreseeable future.
Entire article: https://www.sportingnews.com/in/nba...rades-cavaliers-jazz/ocfrkgzxiaphqpdrs71aizeh
Four of the five give the Cavs the higher grade.
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I would have substituted LeVert for Markkanen.. they'd have never noticed... and I'd be happier
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I think Utah's goal is to swap Markkanen someplace else for another pick. He probably has more value.
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Can you imagine a lineup of
- PG – Darius Garland
- SG – Donovan Mitchell
- SF – Markkanen
- PF – Evan Mobley
- C – Jarrett Allen
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