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Cleveland Cavs (2016 NBA Champions)

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BuckeyeMafia said:
Let's not turn this around. The crux of the argument was about how the Nets were destined to sink. The no-show game happened well before you and NorthCoastKid started in on the value of the pick.

And for the record, I'd still rather have Irving, who is a top 10 NBA player. It's not like Hill and Hood have been able to stay healthy.
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Well, no it wasn't. your original statement which is quoted above is complaining about the "sad return" for irving.

of course, it's not just hill and hood, but you know that. and trying to throw out the health card when one of the guys involved in the trade is about to be on the shelf for at least 5 months is entertaining.
 
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BuckeyeMafia said:
Some people claim that Irving would've sat out the first five months of the season to remove the screws in his knee and others say he'd be out now. So which is it?
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Could it be both? The guy is make of glass. When he was with the Cavs I was always waiting for the other shoe to drop and him to be out for the year. The Cavs were lucky that he he was pretty much healthy for the last year and a half in Cleveland. Is it possible for both teams in the trade to be losers? Cavs lose a top 10 player for a less than stellar return and Boston can't stay healthy and never does anything in the post season. You have to play well enough in 82 games to make the playoffs and with guys like irving it's a crapshoot if he can make it every year. IIRC he had 1 year in Cleveland where he didn't miss a bunch of time with an injury.

If I had to guess Lebron goes to Philly this summer to join a good young team that can take him through the end of his career. If the Cavs are lucky they pull off a sign and trade to get something back. If that happens the Cavs need to move every player over 25 that is worth anything for draft picks and rebuild for after the Warriors get dismantled. Eat some bad contracts like they did with Barron Davis and see if they get some extra high picks. The Cavs have to suck bad enough over the next few years to keep all of those protected first round picks they traded away. Big key is to not suck in the draft like they have done for every single pick other than Lebron and Kyrie. If the Cavs could pull off what OKC did with Durant, Westbrook, Harden, etc. Gilbert isn't too cheep to keep them together like OKC was. He may be too cheep to hire a GM that can pull in a draft haul like that. Wouldn't be surprised if your starting lineup next year looks something like Hill, Hood, Clarkson, Nance, Zizic, and Osman as the 6th man. I'm guessing Hill, JR, and TT are going to be too expensive to trade, but they'll want to dump them if they can. Only guarantee is that if the Lebron leaves the Cavs will be under the cap next year.
 
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Irving had a lot less to worry about in Cleveland. I'm guessing his body responds differently to carrying the entire load.

What would we do about Love in that instance? Keep him and try to make the playoffs next year (should be doable) or trade him? Personally, if LeBron does leave (I expect he will, this Cleveland team couldn't win more than 40 games without him), I hope he does go to Philly. Philly is good enough to give the West a run for its money with LeBron. And fuck the Lakers.
 
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BuckeyeMafia said:
Irving had a lot less to worry about in Cleveland. I'm guessing his body responds differently to carrying the entire load.

What would we do about Love in that instance? Keep him and try to make the playoffs next year (should be doable) or trade him? Personally, if LeBron does leave (I expect he will, this Cleveland team couldn't win more than 40 games without him), I hope he does go to Philly. Philly is good enough to give the West a run for its money with LeBron. And fuck the Lakers.
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why does Philly deserve such nice things... superbowl, NCAA bball champs.... Philly doesnt deserve those things .. now you wanna give them LeBron?
 
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