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I don't know that there's an issue with Woods at DC it's just a general lack of talent on the defensive side of the ball especially with Ward and Harrison out. DL is their best unit, but they need at least 2 new LB's and DB's. The Ravens are a tough team when Lamar is running well and you don't have a LB that can spy a mobile QB. The DB's are unable to cover the receivers especially when Lamar extends the play. That being said they were the missed XP and FG away from winning. The Baker pretty much pick 6 was the mistake of the game. The defense had just got a big stop to get off the field and Baker promptly throws a pick for a sure TD and put them down 2 TD's. I'm not going to hate on Parkey for the missed kicks. The FG wasn't a bad kick he just kicked it straight from the hash. You can't cut the kicker every time his misses a kick or two. The first Ravens game cost Seibert the job, but Parkey has been reliable the whole season. Not every team can have a Justin Tucker, but you never will if you are trying out a new kicker every season.
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So, over the last 3 games, this offense is averaging 470 yards per game and 36.7 points per game. For all of the consternation over Mayfield, he's guiding a very efficient offense over the last month and played well enough to win that game last night.
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There was also a lot of consternation before the season regarding Stefanski calling plays. Needless to say, he's done a tremendous job as well.
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I suppose the problem is, he has had 3 real stinkers (the LV game was in ass weather and the Browns couldn't get off the field), but, if you look at him like a 2nd year QB (and I think that's reasonably fair) this is what you want to see, the evolution over the season. But I mean, I guess the consternation is over his option getting picked up, and well, that's not a huge commitment in QB land. Question is, are you committed to Berry/DePodesta and are the Committed to Stefanski and is he committed to Mayfield? I mean, you got 9 wins, you're in the bottom half of the 1st round, so.... that probably doesn't get you a dude....
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Yeah, that's fair. I guess the way I look at it is that you have a comical history at the position and you now have a guy who, while maybe not at an elite-level, is leagues better than anything you've had since Bernie frickin' Kosar. He's had some stinkers, sure...but you look at the talent he's throwing to, and how he seems to be at least progressing some from the wildly inconsistent Baker of last year and there should be some positive feelings. Baltimore has a pretty good defense and he played very well down the stretch...certainly well enough to win that game if the fucking defense could stop anything.
I don't know. Is Baker enough at the position to win a title with down the road? I think so, if you surround him with a strong run game and a competent defense. I mean, the following QBs have won a SB in the last 9 years:
Nick Foles
The Corpse of Peyton Manning
Joe Flacco
Yes, a majority of the rings have been won by teams with a HOF-caliber QB, but there's 33% of the last 9 rings that have been won by 1) a guy who did little before or since winning that ring, 2) a HOF QB in the last year of his career with a noodle for an arm, and 3) a guy who outside of that terrific postseason run was a pretty average qb for over a decade.
I really do think this franchise is finally moving forward and I don't see them finding themselves in a position to be drafting in the top 5/top 10 where you could hope to find somebody better than what you got. That leaves dipping into the retread market which is a dicey proposition, or drafting another QB in the bottom 1/3 of round 1 or later and taking an even bigger roll of the dice.
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Those guys had defenses way better than this one. This is where is depends on team construction going forward.
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Exactly.
A lot of work to be done on defense. They have some decent pieces, but there's a lot of holes to plug. Hunt/Chubb is a fantastic RB combo. The OL is decent. You gotta figure out what to do with OBJ. They do not have elite WRs right now...but some of those dudes can play. Gotta find a fucking kicker, that's for sure.
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He's the biggest source of optimism for me. I liked the hire when they made it and I feel even better with the season nearing an end. He has corrected so many of the issues that have made this franchise such a shit show over the last two decades. They've cut down on turnovers enormously (just 11 total in the last 12 games after committing 3 in the opening debacle), the team isn't a fucking china doll mentally...Browns teams of the past would have absolutely folded and got boat raced after the ratbirds scored coming out of the half, and they actually seem to have an offensive identity. He's done a fantastic job molding the roster and making this team a legitimate playoff participant. Yes, there's work to do...particularly on a bad defense...but they probably have a shot against most teams they play.
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I think Baker can be the answer going forward, but the key will be resigning him without having to pay Watson/Mahomes money. If the Browns had an extra 5-10 mil a year to dump into the defense and to keep Chubb, Hunt and the OL they have the potential to be good. Baker varies between an above average game manager and can take over a game for periods. The Browns focused on rebuilding the OL and making sure they had enough TE's to run Stefanski's offense this season at the cost of the defense. Everyone they added on defense was on cheap 1 year deals except for trading for Harrison. With the reduced cap next year they might have to focus all of their cap space on resigning the guys they want to keep. I think the offense other than Higgins is under contract next year so they have the whole draft to improve the defense. At least it sounds like with the reduced cap Baker's 5th year option will be around 18 mil rather than 27 like it was going to be pre covid.
Sendejo in concussion protocol so it's likely we'll get to see what the defense looks like without him Sunday. Unfortunately Harrison won't be back yet so we get Joseph and Redwine. Sounds like Ward might be back, which will help.
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We are on the same page here.
I was being lazy in a couple ways, in the back of my head, I remembered a Bengals fan, back whenever it was ask me if they should extend Dalton, and I was like, well, who you gonna get instead. But I don't like that comp all that much, but that was why I was rhetorically asking about the leadership, if they want to extend him a year, then do it.
Ultimately we can sit here and decide if we like what we see, but in the end, is Mayfield willing, able and demonstrating that he can and will do what Stefanski asks of him. For all we know, Stafanski thinks the Eagles game was a masterpiece. (I mean, it wasn't, but neither was Dallas and the scored a shit ton of points). Remember, they canned Kosar for insubordination, which is ultimately not seeing things the same way. So, if all that shit is lined up, its not like his arm isn't strong enough or hes a sitting duck back there, quite honestly I dont see obvious limitations in what they can do offensively.
He misses some throws, most guys do honestly, I assume his decision making within the offense is getting better.
Other than that, pay Bill Calahan whatever he wants and get out there and scout defense. 6 picks in the 1st 4 rounds should get you a LB or a Safety or 2.
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what team is that desperate for a WR? Tompa Bay?
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