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NJ-Buckeye said:
Will be interesting... now that the Texans are equal party to the CIVIL suits... how can the NFL rule in a way that is 'fair' with BOTH Texans and Watson... do you shut down the Texans for a season? nope.. so how do you rule on Watson
PLUS this little issue of precedence... couple years back you had Patriots owner, Kraft... documented in photos committing multiple CRIMINAL acts with human sex trafficking.. and they did nothing...

This ain't no layup... attorney may have to prove Watson FORCED anyone to do anything... and so far, that's probably why there are no criminal charges... no idea if 'forced' is a requirement in civil... probably not

NFL is in a tough spot.. it has to punish Watson somehow since all the publicity but they'll probably be very creative in making it look much tougher than it really is... prohibit him from Feb 15 until July 30 of 2023 and 2024... just made that up
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I was thinking the NFL could pull a "Florida State", i.e. get MLB to suspend him for the season and then claim he was sufficiently punished......:lol:
 
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Looking at the crystal ball... NFL goes for 10 games (to look tough)... Watson appeals.. players union rebels... gets reduced to 8 (which NFL and union agreed to already) .. maybe 6
Meanwhile Watson sends an invoice for 50% reimbursement from Texans for his settlement costs... last 4 will cost more than the 20 that settled...
 
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NJ-Buckeye said:
PLUS this little issue of precedence... couple years back you had Patriots owner, Kraft... documented in photos committing multiple CRIMINAL acts with human sex trafficking.. and they did nothing...
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Yeah, the NFL does appear to be reluctant to do anything to the owners:

Daniel Snyder conducted 'shadow investigation' to bury findings of official probe into Washington Commanders organization, House committee say

Washington Commanders owner Daniel Snyder conducted a "shadow investigation" of allegations that he had fostered a toxic work culture within his organization and worked closely with the NFL to monitor and, ultimately, bury the findings from an official internal investigation, according to findings by a Democrat-led U.S. House committee released Wednesday.
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"The NFL is unwilling or unable to hold Mr. Snyder accountable," Maloney said. "That is why I am announcing now my intent to issue a subpoena for Mr. Snyder for a deposition next week. The committee will not be deterred in its investigation into the Washington Commanders."

Entire article: https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id...-commanders-organization-house-committee-says
 
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Deshaun Watson discipline decision: NFL hearing for Browns QB set to begin Tuesday

The NFL will reportedly push for a lengthy suspension for Watson

The Cleveland Browns may soon have clarity with regard to Deshaun Watson's status for the 2022 season. Watson's NFL disciplinary hearing is slated to begin on Tuesday, according to ESPN and confirmed by CBS Sports NFL insider Jonathan Jones. NFL and NFLPA's jointly appointed disciplinary officer Sue L. Robinson will conduct the hearing. Following Robinson's ruling, both the NFL and NFLPA have the option to appeal. NFL commissioner Roger Goodell can either rule on the appeal, or he can call on in an independent ruler.

Entire article: https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/...rady-nick-bosa-among-underpaid-stars-in-2022/

Apparently the wheel finally starts to turn Tuesday on a possible suspension for Watson.
 
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NJ-Buckeye said:
NFL has to look like they're tough... but NFLPA will kick their ass... and they'll settle... my guess, they already did... but now everyone has to act out their role for PR
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Yeah, it could all be a "theatrical stunt for PR"; however, I don't really think so. The NFLPA negotiated in the 2020 contract that an impartial arbitrator (not the commissioner) will decide if a player violated the personnel conduct clause. This was a really big deal/win for the player's union. I'm guessing that the NFLPA actually wants to see how it plays out with the arbitrator, etc. I believe that it will all be determined by the arbitrator's ruling whether Watson violated the league's personnel conduct penalty (or not) as defined in the collective bargaining agreement.

Roger Goodell no longer has final say on whether Deshaun Watson violated NFL's personal conduct policy
March 29, 2022
But there’s a sizable change awaiting Watson that stems from the collective bargaining agreement renewed in 2020: Commissioner Roger Goodell won’t be the person determining if Watson violated the personal conduct policy.
According to a source familiar with the league’s process under the new CBA, that decision is expected to be placed in the hands of former U.S. District Court Judge Sue Robinson, who has been chosen by the NFL and NFL Players Association to act as an impartial arbitrator in disciplinary cases like Watson’s. Goodell briefly referenced the policy change Tuesday while he was discussing the Watson probe during his closing remarks at the league’s annual spring meetings.
Prior to the new CBA, Goodell had the ability to unilaterally suspend players but the league ultimately chose any appeals officer.
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Once that happens, Watson’s disciplinary scenarios could go like this:
  • If the NFL determines no personal conduct policy violation occurred, he faces no discipline and moves on.
  • If the independent arbitrator determines no personal conduct policy violation occurred, Watson faces no punishment and moves on. Per the CBA, the NFL cannot appeal this decision from the arbitrator.
  • If the independent arbitrator determines a personal conduct violation occurred, the arbitrator can ultimately determine the punishment for the infraction. If the NFL disagrees with the punishment, the league can appeal it to Goodell, who ultimately has a significant measure of power over the process once it’s agreed that a violation took place.
Entire article: https://sports.yahoo.com/roger-good...-nf-ls-personal-conduct-policy-014712381.html

Understanding the NFL’s new process for imposing discipline under Personal Conduct Policy
May 5, 2022
Entire article: https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.c...ing-discipline-under-personal-conduct-policy/

Former federal Judge Sue L. Robinson is the Disciplinary Officer who would hear Deshaun Watson case
May 18, 2022
Entire article: https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.c...y-officer-who-would-hear-deshaun-watson-case/

AP sources: Watson to meet with NFL disciplinary officer
June 25, 2022
The hearing is a significant development in Watson’s case as Robinson will decide if the 26-year-old violated the league’s personal conduct policy. The league is expected to recommend significant discipline for Watson, who will be defended by the NFL Players Association in the high-profile case.
ESPN was first to report Watson’s meeting with Robinson, who was jointly appointed by the league and NFL Players Association in 2020. This is the first case the former federal judge has heard under the league’s revised disciplinary procedure. Previously, Commissioner Roger Goodell handled these matters.
Entire article: https://www.washingtonpost.com/spor...a001dc-f4d9-11ec-ac16-8fbf7194cd78_story.html
 
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Deshaun Watson’s Contract Could Be Delayed a Year, per Report

According to WSJ, if delaying his contract went into effect, the first year of his deal would not be completely “wiped out.” , 2023 would reportedly mark the start of his five years, which would delay when Watson could theoretically reach free agency if and when he would be reinstated, depending on the final punishment.

His hearing with Sue L. Robinson, the disciplinary officer appointed by the NFL and players association, is reportedly slated to begin Tuesday, according to ESPN’s Adam Schefter. The NFL Players Association will “mobilize with an aggressive defense on Watson’s behalf,” which will reportedly include comparisons to the league’s handling of cases involving three prominent team owners—the Commanders’ Daniel Snyder, the Patriots’ Robert Kraft and the Cowboys’ Jerry Jones.

As for the league, an indefinite suspension would “give the NFL the flexibility to keep him out for longer based on a variety of factors, including whether more cases surface,” per WSJ. NFL officials have reportedly “zeroed in” on five specific women “whose cases they believe include the strongest evidence.” The league is reportedly pushing for the “indefinite suspension” to be no less than one year.

Entire article: https://www.si.com/nfl/2022/06/26/deshaun-watsons-contract-could-be-delayed-a-year-per-report

Just sayin': The NFL/Deshaun Watson "rumor mill" continues.
 
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