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Cleveland Browns (2012 season)

Mac;2290414; said:

i hope someone points out that the panthers had Cam Newton to Haslam...also im watching this press conference and Chud is nervous and i dont hear any confidence whatsoever in his voice...if he cant convince me right now by that speech, i dont see how hes going to control a locker room
 
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Bucklion;2290411; said:
That may be the key...if they start blowing up the defense schematically and switch to a 3-4 it could take years to even that out in personnel...by then it will be too late. Hopefully he won't go Mangini and start trading for scrubs from his old team.

the twitters are saying it's going to be a one gap attacking 3-4 system, which would allow guys like phil taylor and frostee rucker to play end and sheard to play OLB. in that case, an overhaul of personnel isn't really necessary. they'd still need a pass rusher, cb, and FS, just like now. rucker and winn would hold down one DE spot and Taylor would be used like Ngata in Baltimore.
 
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tsteele316;2290421; said:
the twitters are saying it's going to be a one gap attacking 3-4 system, which would allow guys like phil taylor and frostee rucker to play end and sheard to play OLB. in that case, an overhaul of personnel isn't really necessary. they'd still need a pass rusher, cb, and FS, just like now. rucker and winn would hold down one DE spot and Taylor would be used like Ngata in Baltimore.

That would involve having Sheard drop into
Coverage more consistently. No thanks.

We don't have the depth at LB for that scheme
At all, let alone the lack of talent.

If Jauron stays and a base 43 is used, I'm encouraged.
Norv and Jauron as coordinators I feel can overcome
Youthful inexperience at HC until Chud gets his feet wet.
 
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And what Yo said - he isn't a man that comes across
With that 'presence' that exudes authority or confidence.

I will admit its just an interview and press meeting... But
If he's able to win over that locker room, more power to him.
 
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AKAK;2290395; said:
But, someone please explain to me who the other viable candidates were. As some of you may have noticed, I was the one talking up Trestman's resume because in a way, I thought he might have the best one of the people that were actually reasonable.
Jim Tressel
David Shaw
Jim Tomsula
Mel Tucker

Tomsula would have been a big get in my, IMO.
 
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Bleed S & G;2290450; said:
Jim Tressel
David Shaw
Jim Tomsula
Mel Tucker

Tomsula would have been a big get in my, IMO.

Is there any indication there was any interest/availability of any of those guys? That's really my point, and while you may love Tomsula, I don't know that on paper he's any better than Chudzinski or Trestman, you know, who actually interviewed.
 
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Buckeneye;2290444; said:
That would involve having Sheard drop into
Coverage more consistently. No thanks.

We don't have the depth at LB for that scheme
At all, let alone the lack of talent.

If Jauron stays and a base 43 is used, I'm encouraged.
Norv and Jauron as coordinators I feel can overcome
Youthful inexperience at HC until Chud gets his feet wet.

how often does pitt drop lamaar woodley into coverage? probably about as many times as shead dropped into coverage from a 2 point when cleveland started running zone blitzes the 2nd half of the season after taylor and rubin were both healthy.
 
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tsteele316;2290355; said:
so, the answer would be?

the bears just dumped lovie smith for a guy that was coaching in the CFL. some people need to get a grip.

So, there was Lovie and the CFL guy, for starters. This just seems like a really inopportune year to be claiming there weren't options.
 
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tsteele316;2290467; said:
how often does pitt drop lamaar woodley into coverage? probably about as many times as shead dropped into coverage from a 2 point when cleveland started running zone blitzes the 2nd half of the season after taylor and rubin were both healthy.

Woodley is by far a more effective pass rusher who can consistently explode to the edge and drop his hips.
I love Sheard for what he contributes to this team, but he is not Woodley.

On top of that - how deep did they usually drop Jabaal? 5-7 yards ... maybe. His assignment was usually to
trail just over the middle of the field and check the TE off the line.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFDZlXe_Xxk"]LaMarr Woodley picks off Carson Palmer (12-12-2010) - YouTube[/ame]


That's Lamar (scUMmer) Sheard is NOT that fluid in space or capable of making that play.
 
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