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Cleveland Browns (2012 season)

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Perhaps a relevant question: Did Whisenhunt's tenure as a Steelers assistant overlap with Haslam's minority ownership?

I'm not enthusiastic about Whisenhunt, but if there's a prior connection it seems like a candidate the Browns might kick the tires on.

I'd rather have a head coach who stands a chance of turning the Browns into a top-3 defense. Lovie Smith could probably do it. Nick Saban could probably do it.

I'll admit that I scoffed when Seattle hired Pete Carroll. I'm jealous of what they've done there though. They are an interesting team and fun to watch. They are physical, they run the ball and play defense. Those are the things I want the Cleveland Browns to do. Those are the things that allow you to take a 3rd-round rookie QB and make the playoffs. I want a new head coach who believes in those things and can make them happen. I don't want a whiz-bang offensive coordinator from a pass-happy team. I don't want a coordinator from a flavor-of-the-month team that built a defense that was good enough for their team to get by, but didn't dominate.
 
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jlb1705;2283929; said:
There's something to be said for getting the Arizona Cardinals to a Super Bowl.

Kurt Warner ain't walkin' thru that door though.
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This is key. Take away Werner and he was 18-30. Kurt Werner turned around two franchises. I'm not sold on Whisenhunt at all, reminds me of Mangini too much.
 
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Ken Whisenhunt hasn't established any sort of run-game or logical playcalling over the last 3 years. This guy was notorious for 3 and outs up 21 points in the third quarter with 3 straight throws. Just a poor game manager, and I really want him nowhere near Trent Richardson.

I also don't trust Lovie Smith. One of the worst clock managers in the NFL...he had no idea how to use timeouts or maximize the clock. If you're going to run a football team, I'd prefer you know when it's appropriate to use timeouts. I've really never understood how any coach at the college level or higher don't know when to call timeouts or the appropriate time to go for 2 points...they're certainly out there though.
 
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Bucks21;2283718; said:
The reasoning behind coach first, GM second is that Banner is planning on having a decent bit of control in the front office or he is looking at a coach like Chip Kelly or Gruden thats going to want a lot of say in the front office moves. Now if Gruden really is interested in coaching again, you throw a stack of money at him, so much he can't say no. Otherwise, I like Roman from the 49ers, and I would at least give Chip Kelly a chance to see if he could develop any sort offense that would actually work in the NFL.


BTW if Banner gets power hungry he could cost a few solid GM or coach options. I'm starting to get worried that he is going to fuck this all up.
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And therein lies the root of my nervousness with hiring a coach first and then hiring a GM. Banner having, or should I say Banner thinking he has the ability to have, control in the front office in purely football related matters is a bad thought. And yes, it could keep good solid GM's away as well as coaching options.

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Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter Syracuse HC Doug Marrone is scheduled to interview this week for Cleveland Browns' HC and also will interview for Buffalo Bills' HC.
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Jim Tressel, the obvious and best choice for Browns coach. Shocked I have not seen it mentioned.

The man has succeeded everywhere he's been; he's an excellent manager; no silly NCAA rules to deal with in the NFL. And he's a Cleveland guy. What's not to like?
 
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MaxBuck;2284135; said:
Jim Tressel, the obvious and best choice for Browns coach. Shocked I have not seen it mentioned.

The man has succeeded everywhere he's been; he's an excellent manager; no silly NCAA rules to deal with in the NFL. And he's a Cleveland guy. What's not to like?
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I don't think he's expressed any interest in a return to coaching.
 
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i may be alone on this but i think hiring Jim Tressel as a NFL coach is a bad move...he has shown he can coach young men great and has succeeded at the college level, but i find it hard for grown men to have as much respect for him at the pro level...I cant see them buying into his clean cut (yes even lying to the NCAA he is still clean cut in my eyes), "by golly, gosh darnit" attitude...i wasnt a big fan of his offense while here at ohio state and i cant see it being any more brilliant at the NFL level...if you want to talk of a Ohio State coach that would make a great NFL coach IMO, then look no further then Urban Meyer...i think he has the whole package and would coach NFL players great...i don't see him leaving the college level so its pretty much a moot point, but if we are talking about former/current OSU coaches who would be good for the browns then sign me up for Meyer...but i would never want that because he is obviously the best thing for Ohio State since Woody Hayes, and I would never wish on anyone to be the head coach for the Browns...im hoping Haslam looks outside of the box, goes beyond the current obvious coaching candidates, opens up his wallet, and gets Cleveland a proven winner at head coach
 
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I would love to see Tressel take the job. I have a couple reservations about him in the NFL, but no more than any other candidate. My main concern is his track record of keeping ineffective assistants on staff. I can kind of dismiss that because I think that Tressel had a similar problem to the one that Bielema complained about at Wisky. Paying assistants high dollars wasn't going to happen prior to Meyer's hiring. Gene Smith said as much during interviews following Meyer's introduction press conference. I think that Tressel is a lot more connected in the NFL than I ever gave him credit for. I also don't think that Tressel will come off as golly gosh darnit to his players. I'm actually pretty sure that he never came off that way to his players when he was at Ohio State.
 
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Some of the GM candidates on the Browns' radar, according to league sources:

David Caldwell, Atlanta Falcons
Doug Whaley, Buffalo Bills
Ray Farmer, Kansas City Chiefs
Steve Keim, Arizona Cardinals
Jason Licht, Arizona Cardinals
Mike Lombardi, NFL Network

These are some stud programs.. I feel very comfortable with this list :smash:
 
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