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Cleveland Browns (2007 & prior)

If we were going to trade Suggs... why in the world wouldn't we trade him to get Fraley from the Eagles?

the eagles refuse to deal Fraley to Cleveland because they are pissed that the Browns stole Bentely from them this offseason.

This trade is a combo of Baxter and Mccutcheon both being hurt coupled with Minter being out and Pete Hunter sucking ballsack.
 
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makes sense.. maybe we'll still get him.. because the Eagles have a new starter and I believe they drafted a center... so hopefully.....

I take it you're not enamored with Hunter's coverage skills... :wink2:
 
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makes sense.. maybe we'll still get him.. because the Eagles have a new starter and I believe they drafted a center... so hopefully.....

I take it you're not enamored with Hunter's coverage skills... :wink2:

lol, what would give you that idea.

as it pertains to fraley, he did gett bumped as the starter. The problem with trading him is that a.) he's probably one of the best OL that could reasonably be acquired at this juncture via trade. This makes the asking price fairly high. b.) he's a FA after this year, meaning many teams would only want him as a stopgap, meaning they aren't willing to give up very much.
 
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ABJ

8/15/06

Suggs traded for cornerback

Browns get Jets' Strait; McCutcheon, Baxter returns still on schedule

By Patrick McManamon

Beacon Journal sportswriter

<!-- begin body-content -->BEREA - The Browns made a trade Monday, and it did not involve a center. They acquired a cornerback, and they did it by completing a long-rumored trade of Lee Suggs.
The Browns sent Suggs to the New York Jets for Derrick Strait, a cornerback/safety from the University of Oklahoma. The Jets had inquired about Suggs during April's draft.
Strait is in his third season. He has no starts or interceptions for the Jets, but did start at safety for the injured Erik Coleman (appendectomy) in the Jets' preseason opener.
Coach Romeo Crennel said: ``I think that they were looking for depth at running back, and we were looking for depth in the defensive backfield, especially with some of the injuries we have.''
The Browns are without two cornerbacks. Daylon McCutcheon is recovering from arthroscopic knee surgery, and Gary Baxter has a slight tear in his right pectoral muscle.
One more pulled hamstring would have had the Browns in dire... um... straits while looking for corners.
Strait is not the fastest player, but plays on instincts and reactions. He was mainly used against the slot receiver in New York.
He won the Jim Thorpe and Nagurski awards as a senior at Oklahoma, but fell to the third round because of his size -- 5-11 and 189 pounds. While with the Baltimore Ravens, Browns General Manager Phil Savage scouted him.
Crennel said the acquisition of Strait does not mean those injuries are more serious than first reported. ``I hope (McCutcheon and Baxter) come back in the time period we are shooting for,'' Crennel said.
``But you know how injuries are,'' Crennel said. ``You never can tell, and it never hurts to cover yourself a little bit.''
For the first time since his Aug. 1 surgery, McCutcheon spent the day riding a stationary exercise bike. Offensive tackle Ryan Tucker, who had surgery the same day, joined him in riding the bike on the practice field for the first time.
The team has said it hopes to have McCutcheon and Baxter back for the season opener Sept. 10 at home against New Orleans. Both are believed to be on target for that return.
The most surprising aspect of the trade is that the Browns did not move Suggs for a center.
``Some teams had extra people, but they were banged up and weren't willing to let somebody go,'' Crennel said. ``That would weaken their present position.''
Suggs' marketability in the NFL probably isn't as high as his ``Q'' rating in Cleveland. Suggs showed great talent, but he missed 26 games in the past three seasons with injuries. He has not stepped forward in the Crennel and Savage era, either.
A year ago, he had the chance to win the job, hurt his ankle in preseason and saw Reuben Droughns take over. Suggs finished 2005 with eight carries for 15 yards.
Suggs' potential goes back to 2004, when he finished with three 100-yard games in a row, and 2003, when he ended the season with 186 yards in a win over the Cincinnati Bengals.
He will get a chance in New York because Curtis Martin is not practicing after undergoing knee surgery in December.
Suggs' departure helps William Green, who is trying to make the team as Droughns' backup.
``It takes some of his competition away from him,'' Crennel said. ``That might help him a little bit, but he still has to go out and play.''
It also might help rookie fullback Lawrence Vickers, who has impressed Crennel and has been used in practice in the running back spot, especially near the goal line.
Too, rookie Jerome Harrison -- who scored the only touchdown in the preseason opener -- has impressed with his quickness.
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ABJ

8/15/06

Browns report

Randy Lerner makes bid for British soccer team

Browns' owner is interested in buying Aston Villa club for $118.8 million

By Krystyna Rudzki

Associated Press

<!-- begin body-content -->LONDON - Another billionaire NFL owner is set to take over an English soccer club.
Browns owner Randy Lerner put in a $118.8 million bid Monday to buy Aston Villa, one of the oldest clubs in English soccer.
Last year, Tampa Bay Buccaneers owner Malcolm Glazer took over Manchester United, one of the world's most popular soccer teams.
The Aston Villa board recommended the transaction to shareholders and said owners of 56.85 percent of the shares were committed to the deal. Lerner is expected to take over within months.
``The basis for acquiring Aston Villa is that it is a storied club dating from the 1870s, with periods of treasured memories and glory,'' Lerner said. ``The opportunity to be a part of strengthening Villa's business operations and facilities represents a broad set of challenges that I'm eager to take on.''
Villa Chairman Doug Ellis, who has run the Birmingham-based club for more than 30 years and owns 39 percent of the stock, put the team up for sale last year.
Lerner's takeover vehicle, Reform Acquisitions Ltd., offered $10.37 a share, the principals announced to the London Stock Exchange on Monday. That represents a premium of about 47 percent more than the closing price on Sept. 16, 2005, the last day before the offer period.
Lerner, former chairman of credit-card giant MBNA, took over as the Browns' principal owner after the death of his father in 2002. Through MBNA, he's had extensive business dealings in Britain.
Lerner once was equipment manager for the Cleveland Cobras of the American Soccer League.
``I never picked up so many smelly uniforms, socks and towels in my life,'' Lerner said in 2004 when recalling his first venture into pro sports. ``I liked sports and my dad knew the Cobras owner, so he figured this would be a good learning experience for me, to start at the basic level.''
Lerner would be the fourth foreign owner of a Premier League club.
Villa, which opens the 2006-07 season at Arsenal on Saturday, posted a loss of $16.8 million in the last full financial year, and lost $2.2 million the year before.
 
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Canton

8/15/06

Harrison may have role following trade of Suggs
Tuesday, August 15, 2006

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BEREA - Every now and then in training camp, little 199-pound Jerome Harrison will be sent up the middle against 365-pound Ted Washington.
There’s no tackling, but it nonetheless sends a strange sensation through the smaller man.
“You just hope guys like that don’t eat you,” Harrison said.
They don’t, because they can’t catch him. Harrison’s ability to dart away from defenders helped him rush for 1,900 yards at Washington State in 2005, and get drafted in Round 5 by the Browns in 2006, despite his slight frame.
At 5-foot-9, Harrison is the shortest of the 90 Browns on the roster heading into Friday’s preseason game against Detroit.
His prospects for the regular season, though, are a lot bigger now that Lee Suggs has been traded to the Jets. With Suggs gone, the running-back roles seem fairly clear.
Reuben Droughns is the feature back. William Green becomes the first- and second-down back if anything happens to Droughns.
Harrison goes on a fast track to handle what could be an expanded third-down-back role.
“Third-down back? Special- teams guy? I heard Lee was traded. That’s all I know,” Harrison said.
Head Coach Romeo Crennel, though, has had trouble concealing his excitement about Harrison’s big-play ability.
“Jerome shows quickness,” Crennel said. “We talked about getting a change-of-pace guy. He might fit that bill.”
Harrison must prove himself as a receiver after catching a modest 24 passes for 206 yards as a 2006 collegian. He didn’t get a carry at Philadelphia, but caught two passes for 13 yards.
He also must prove he won’t get blown out when he is needed to pick up a blitzer. Keep an eye on his blocking in the Detroit game, in which he is likely to appear in at least two quarters.
“I’m a shorter guy,” he said. “Most linebackers are in the 6-foot range. I just use my leverage.
“I’ve got lower pad level than most of the guys I block. It’s harder for 6-foot guys to get lower than a 5-9 guy.”
Observed Crennel, “He’s improving as a blocker. He’s not afraid to put his face in there.”
Some fans found the Suggs trade hard to take, wary about giving up a guy who finished the 2004 season with three straight 100-yard rushing games. Suggs’ value, though, plunged because of too-frequent injuries, including problems that wrecked his 2005 season. He rushed just eight times for 15 yards in 2005 after going into training camp as the No. 1 back.
The Browns tried to use Suggs as bait to get a center, but settled on a deal that brought Jets defensive back Derrick Strait.
Crennel never seemed carried away by Suggs sensational finish to the 2004 season.
“I wasn’t here when that occurred,” Crennel said. “I can only go by what I’ve seen. We had some depth at the position and that had more to do with it than anything else.”
The Browns opened 2005 with three running backs and might have gone into 2006 with four, if Suggs had stayed.
Now, Green seems destined to serve out the final year of a contract that began when the Browns picked him in the first round in 2002.
If anything happens to Droughns, Green could find himself in a season-saving type role.
“I think they’re trying to get a feel for who can do what,” Green said shortly after Suggs was traded. “I’m not in the coach’s mind. I don’t know what they’re gonna do.”
Green seemed at peace with his lot, even before the trade. Often during the 2006 training camp, he and Suggs left the field together, talking quietly.
Suggs was gone before Monday’s practice.
After the trade, Green said, “Lee was excited. He feels like he’s got a good chance. If he gets the opportunity, he’ll do very well in New York.
“This would have been our fourth year together. We’re friends. That doesn’t change. I have his number. He has mine.”
One number to keep in mind: 35. That’s the one on Jerome Harrison’s jersey.
Reach Repository sports writer Steve Doerschuk at (330) 580-8347 or e-mail:
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Suggs greatest hits
Lee Suggs biggest games as a Brown:
Foe, year Atts. Yds.
Bengals, 2003 26 186
Dolphins, 2004 38 143
Texans, 2004 26 131
Chargers, 2004 21 105
Redskins, 2004 22 82
Eagles, 2004 15 78 Totals 148 725 Note In Suggs’ other games in three years with the Browns, he totaled 115 carries for 323 yards.


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Canton

8/15/06

Stories of two Tuckers
Tuesday, August 15, 2006



BEREA - New arrival Ross Tucker spent much of Monday’s practice as the Browns first-team center.
Injured right tackle Ryan Tucker basically guaranteed he will be back for the season opener.
It appears Ross Tucker will start Friday against Detroit, replacing Alonzo Ephraim, who played the first half at Philadelphia.
“(Tucker) is pretty familiar with the system,” quarterback Charlie Frye said of the ex-Patriot, who arrived via trade after injured LeCharles Bentley’s backup, Bob Hallen, retired. “It’s not gonna take him very long to get up to speed. I think he’s a smart guy.”
The perils of breaking in a starter on the fly were apparent in Monday’s practice, though. At one point, Tucker missed a snap count during 11-on-11s. Line coach Jeff Davidson said, “Ross ... come here,” then explained a few things while Ephraim took over.
Tucker played just one game for the Patriots last year after getting cut by the Bills.
Browns Head Coach Romeo Crennel hasn’t ruled out the team exploring another trade to bring in a lineman. Crennel was caught by cameras chatting with Eagles center Hank Fraley on Thursday, but he said it was nothing more than “a cordial hello” to a player he knows.
Ryan Tucker, meanwhile, said his rehabilitation from arthroscopic knee surgery is going well. Well enough to play Sept. 10 against the Saints?
“It’s going to happen,” Tucker said.
In fact, the veteran wants to play in the preseason finale against the Bears on Aug. 31.
“I’m not very good without practicing,” he said. “Some people can do that. I can’t. If I don’t practice and I play in the game, get ready to write some stories.”

CRIBBS UPDATE Joshua Cribbs continued to get work as a receiver with Frye during 11-on-11 drills. Any chance Cribbs will get work at quarterback, his position at Kent State? “Not yet,” Crennel said. “It’s a possibility. We have five other guys lined up at that position right now and you can only work so many of them.” Cribbs might not ever play quarterback in a Browns game, but he might pop up as an option passer on trick plays.
TIGHT ROPE Players are walking the line between getting physical and observing the rules of “no-tackle” practices. After one play, someone yelled angrily, “C’mon, man.” Then linebacker Chaun Thompson and tight end Kellen Winslow Jr. exchanged words.
MCGINEST RETURNS Linebacker Willie McGinest returned to practice after attending to a personal situation.
INDIAN IN CAMP Indians General Manager Mark Shapiro watched Monday afternoon’s practice.

Reach Repository sports writer Steve Doerschuk at (330) 580-8347 or e-mail: [email protected]
 
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Suggs fails physical, coming back to Cleveland...

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/football/nfl/specials/preview/2006/08/15/bc.fbn.jets.suggsphysic.ap/index.html

Suggs fails Jets physical

Oft-injured running back will return to Cleveland

Posted: Tuesday August 15, 2006 1:03PM; Updated: Tuesday August 15, 2006 1:12PM

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</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>HEMPSTEAD, N.Y. (AP) -- Running back Lee Suggs failed his physical with the New York Jets on Tuesday, voiding his trade from Cleveland.
Suggs, who has had a myriad of injuries throughout his four-year career, was brought in to help bolster the group of backs struggling without the injured Curtis Martin. Now, he is headed back to the Browns. Cornerback Derrick Strait, who was sent to Cleveland in the deal made Monday, returns to New York.
"We have a whole series of tests that we do, and we were very thorough with the process," Jets coach Eric Mangini said. "He just didn't pass those tests. ... Each team has a criteria they set up that they believe is what's important and what's needed to be competitive. I'm very comfortable with the tests we have set up."
With Martin unable to practice because of a lingering right knee injury, the Jets needed depth at the position. Derrick Blaylock and Cedric Houston are taking the majority of snaps, but are not the type of backs to shoulder the load.
The 33-year-old Martin, who is No. 4 on the all-time rushing list, continues to rehab and his future is in doubt. Though Martin wants to play this season, it is unclear whether he will be able to. It has been eight months since he had surgery on his knee.
Suggs hasn't been able to stay on the field for the Browns, who selected him in the fourth round of the 2003 draft. At various times in his pro career, Suggs has been sidelined by injuries to a shoulder, neck, toe, ankle and thumb.
Mangini declined to say what part of the physical Suggs failed.
"It's just standard operating procedure. You go through a trade, you have to go through the complete process," Mangini said. "This is part of the process. Lee has done a good job in Cleveland, he's a good person and that's part of the reason we pursued him. I really think the opportunity was good for both players and both teams. I wish Lee well, and I look forward to Derrick getting back here and getting to work."
Mangini also declined to give a timetable for Martin's return, and said the trade had no bearing on the future of the running back.
"We were looking at it as an opportunity to improve the competition at the position," Mangini said. "Our goal is to increase competition and to make our team that much more competitive and improve the team where we can."
He also didn't rule out future deals to bring in another running back.
"It's fair to assume that there could be a lot of moves," Mangini said. "The moves are going to be predicated on the opportunities, and the opportunities are going to based on whether that move can improve the team."
The speedy 6-foot, 213-pound Suggs appeared in only seven games as a rookie because of a shoulder injury he sustained at Virginia Tech. Suggs won a starting job in training camp in 2004, but hurt his neck in the final preseason game and was inactive for the first three games of the regular season. He returned to play in seven games before missing three straight with a toe injury.
Suggs hurt his ankle during the preseason last year and missed Cleveland's first two games. He dressed in Weeks 3 and 4, but injured his thumb and was inactive for six weeks.
Suggs has rushed for 1,048 yards and four TDs as a pro.
Copyright 2006 Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.
 
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