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scarletngrey11
All right, all right, all right.
Thanks for the heads up, I fixed it.
I think Carpenter will be a perfect pick for the Cowboys. Hes a Bill Parcells type of player. Same with Mangold, I think he'll really do well with Denvers running schemes.
First Round
(1) Houston Texans: = Reggie Bush, RB, Southern California
Personally, I think they should trade down and pick up Ferguson and other draft picks, but as of right now all signs point to Mr. Bush being the #1 overall selection in the draft. Hes not an every down back, but for the carries he will get, hes as explosive and dynamic as they come.
(2) New Orleans Saints: = D’Brickashaw Ferguson, OT, Virginia
Tough call here, but the Saints already have a few good young defensive ends in Grant and Will Smith. Quite possibly could trade down.(Especially with the Jets.)
(3) Tennessee Titans: = Matt Leinart, QB, Southern California
Leinhart and Norm Chow are reunited in Tennessee, thats not good news for Titans opponents.
(4) New York Jets: = A.J. Hawk, OLB, Ohio State
Easily the best backer in the draft, and quite possibly defensive player. At 6'1 248 lbs and with freakish athletic ability. 40" vertical jump, he also had the 2nd fastest shuttle time at the whole combine. Has had opponents game plan around him the last two years, will instantly improve the Jets defense.
(5) Green Bay Packers: = Mario Williams, DE, NC St.
With Hawk off of the board, this is a no-brainer.
(6) San Francisco 49ers: = Vernon Davis, TE, Maryland
Sick athlete. 250+ lbs and running a 4.38? 49ers pick Davis to get Alex Smith an easy and explosive target.
(7) Oakland Raiders: = Vince Young, QB, Texas
Ngata is also a possibility, but I cant see Al Davis passing on a player like Vince Young. The Raiders need a starting QB with Collins released, and although Young might not be ready for the starting job, this is the pick.
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Bills lost Sam Adams(not the beer) in FA, so they take the best NT on the board. Conflicting reports say that they dont view Ngata as a good player in their defensive schemes, but until that is confirmed this is the pick.
(9) Detroit Lions: = Michael Huff, DB, Texas
Watch out for another wide reciever here.
(10) Arizona Cardinals: = Jay Cutler, QB, Vanderbilt
After signing Kurt Warner to probably his last contract, the Cards take Jay Cutler for the future. Tough pick here, might also give Jimmy Williams a look at FS.
(11) St. Louis Rams: = Jimmy Williams, DB, Va Tech
Rams lost Adam A. in free agency, so they pick up the Va Tech product in Jimmy Williams. At 6'3" 219 lbs., he has ran a sub-4.4. Put that speed on the famous Rams turf, and watch out!
(12) Cleveland Browns: = Brodrick Bunkley, DT, Florida State
Browns are in love with Bunkley. He would be a great fit at DE in the 3-4. Runs a sub-5.0, and does 44 bench reps. I saw this guy running his 40 yard dash on TV, and I was ready to duck...
(13) Baltimore Ravens: = Winston Justice, OT, USC
Ogden is aging, and they also recently released Orlando Brown. Might take USC running back LenDale White here, but they signed Mike Anderson in free agency.
(14) Philadelphia Eagles: = Santonio Holmes, WR, OSU
Best wide reciever in the draft. Scouts timed him at anywhere from 4.27-4.34 at the OSU Pro Day. Despite his great speed, his route running is his greatest asset. Also levels linebackers when run blocking.
(15) Atlanta Falcons: = Tye Hill, CB, Clemson
Probably the fastest CB is this class, Hill will occupy the corner opposite of D'Angelo Hall, forming the best set of young corners in the game.
(16) Miami Dolphins: = Manny Lawson, OLB, NC St.
Jason Taylor anyone? 4.41 40 time at 250 lbs. Nick Saban loves aggressive defensive players with speed to burn. I think Lawsons size tempts the Dolphins to draf him over Sims.
(17) Minnesota Vikings: = Ko Simpson, S, South Carolina
One of the fastest safeties in the country. Will pair with Sharper to form a very scary set of safeties. Sims is also a possiblity, but its hard to tell as of right now who the pick is.
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The best prospect you havent heard of, thanks to Hawk. 6'2" 254 lbs., runs a sub-4.6 when healthy. Coming off of minor injury, but isnt anything serious. Definition of a football player. If he gets hurt, he wont wait for the trainers, he runs off of the field so that the game doesnt get held up.
(19) San Diego Chargers: = Eric Winston, OT, Miami
Was a top-15 prospect if he came out last year, until he got injured. Fell out of the 1st round for a bit, but after his good combine this is where he will probably go.
(20) Kansas City Chiefs: = Antonio Cromartie, CB, FSU
Good size and speed for an NFL corner, also can stop the run. I think he barely gets the nod of Ashton Youboty.
(21) New England Patriots: = DeAngelo Williams, RB, Memphis
Shocked that Williams falls this far, they take his without hesitation. Corey Dillon is getting up there in years.
(22) Denver Broncos (from Washington Redskins): = Chad Jackson, WR, Florida
Questions about his toughness, but this is the pick here. Rod Smith is getting old, and Jackson would fit nicely into the Broncos offense. Nice size and speed.
(23) Tampa Bay Buccaneers: = Ernie Sims, LB, FSU
Well, the G-men are PISSED that he didnt drop, but what can you do? Sims could be the next Derrick Brooks, and would fit the defensive scheme well.
(24) Cincinnati Bengals: = Donte Whitner, SS, OSU
A mixture of Mike Doss and Bob Sanders. 5'11 206 lbs, runs a 4.3. Great in run support, but also can hold his own in pass coverage. Blows up plays in the back field, and is a fierce hitter.
(25) New York Giants: = Chad Greenway, LB, Iowa
Slipped alot due to a well.... pretty bad combine performance. Is a smart player, and under the right coaching and system will be a great NFL linebacker.
(26) Chicago Bears: = Leonard Pope, TE, Georgia
Desperately need a TE. Honeslty, I have no clue who the Bears pick here, but thats what their draft needs web site said.
(27) Carolina Panthers: = Thomas Howard, LB
Raw but very athletic. TE is also a possiblity, but need to draft a LB thanks to free agency.
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Surprised that he drops this far, they draft him for the future, and in case Fragile Fred Taylor gets hurt again.
(29) Denver Broncos: = Nick Mangold, C, Ohio State.
Called by one NFL scout the best center to come out of college in the last 15 years. Mangold is a smart, athletic center that made all of the line calls in college.
(30) Indianapolis Colts: = Laurence Maroney, RB, Minnesota
No brainer here, Edge to Cards means Maroney to the Colts.
(31) Seattle Seahawks: = Taitusi Lutui, G, USC
With Hutch's status up in the air, the Hawks draft the best guard in the draft.
(32) Pittsburgh Steelers: = Santana Moss, WR, Miami
Best WR on the board. Good on reverses.
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Veritas Aequitas
Browns Make More Moves
Mar 20, 2006
Author: DawgBones.com
After a whirlwind first week of the 2006 NFL free agency signing period, the Cleveland Browns had a very pedestrian week 2. They added veteran tight end Darnell Dinkins who last played with the Baltimore Ravens and traded safety Chris Crocker to the Atlanta Falcons for a 4th round draft pick in April's NFL Draft.
The pickup of Dinkins was not earth shattering by any means, but it is an indicator of where the new coaching staff's mindset is at. Dinkins is a very solid special teams player and is an exceptional run blocker, his receiving skills are nothing to right home about however. The fact that he is a solid run blocking tight end is something the Browns did not have in recently departed tight end Aaron Shea.
Dinkins will joins Steve Heiden, another solid blocking tight end, Kellen Winslow II and Paul Irons as the teams tight end's heading into the up coming mini-camps.
As for moving Crocker to Atlanta, it was good value for the Browns. Crocker was picked in the 3rd round of the 2002 NFL Draft by the Browns and got his first significant time playing in 2005. His numbers were very solid as he amassed 86 tackles, 2 sacks, 2 interceptions and 2 forced fumbled in 16 games. Who will ever forget him blitzing up the middle to force Chicago QB Kyle Orton to fumble the ball and lead the Browns to their only win in 2005 against a playoff bound team.
The fact that the Browns will get a 4th rounder means he has not lost his value, but potentially has increased it. When you consider that QB Patrick Ramsey, who was selected in the 1st round of the NFL draft was just traded for a 6th round pick, it's outstanding value.
The Browns now will have 9 picks in total heading into April's draft and that number could increase as rumors continue to run rampant in conjunction with a possible trade for center Jeff Faine. More then likely no deal will be done until draft day for Faine, but stranger things have happened this off-season.
We hear at DawgBones.com wish Chris Crocker continued good health and success as he heads to Atlanta and thank him for being a Cleveland Brown.
Mar 20, 2006
Author: DawgBones.com
The pickup of Dinkins was not earth shattering by any means, but it is an indicator of where the new coaching staff's mindset is at. Dinkins is a very solid special teams player and is an exceptional run blocker, his receiving skills are nothing to right home about however. The fact that he is a solid run blocking tight end is something the Browns did not have in recently departed tight end Aaron Shea.
Dinkins will joins Steve Heiden, another solid blocking tight end, Kellen Winslow II and Paul Irons as the teams tight end's heading into the up coming mini-camps.
As for moving Crocker to Atlanta, it was good value for the Browns. Crocker was picked in the 3rd round of the 2002 NFL Draft by the Browns and got his first significant time playing in 2005. His numbers were very solid as he amassed 86 tackles, 2 sacks, 2 interceptions and 2 forced fumbled in 16 games. Who will ever forget him blitzing up the middle to force Chicago QB Kyle Orton to fumble the ball and lead the Browns to their only win in 2005 against a playoff bound team.
The fact that the Browns will get a 4th rounder means he has not lost his value, but potentially has increased it. When you consider that QB Patrick Ramsey, who was selected in the 1st round of the NFL draft was just traded for a 6th round pick, it's outstanding value.
The Browns now will have 9 picks in total heading into April's draft and that number could increase as rumors continue to run rampant in conjunction with a possible trade for center Jeff Faine. More then likely no deal will be done until draft day for Faine, but stranger things have happened this off-season.
We hear at DawgBones.com wish Chris Crocker continued good health and success as he heads to Atlanta and thank him for being a Cleveland Brown.
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aurorabuckeye13
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I think just about every Browns fan wants to trade down but it isn't as easy as people think. Savage just can't say oh I want two first round picks and Denver will just make a trade automatically. To trade down someone has to absolutely fall in love with a certain player and they must be willing to pay a price to get that player. Not many teams are willing to do that.
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scarletngrey11
All right, all right, all right.
A couple of tidbits....
Rumor is that the Seahawks will trade their 31st overall pick to the Jets from John Abraham.
St. Louis is interested in Bunkley, and they pick right before us. The Eagles are also very interested in Bunkley, and they have the 16th pick. The Browns are very interested in Wimbley(LB FSU, 6'4" 248 lbs.)
The Texans will undoubtedly take Reggie Bush. The Saints possibly could trade their pick, but right now it seems they are content taking D'Brickashaw Ferguson. There is no way in hell that Norm Chow will allow the Titans to pass on Matt Leinhart. The Jets WILL NOT take Mario Williams. They recently signed ex-Bengal Kimo von Olwhateverthehellhislastnameis, and also have another good DE on the roster. The Jets will take AJ Hawk, which will lead to the Packers taking Mario Williams.
Texans-Reggie Bush
Saints- D'Brickashaw Ferguson
Titans- Matt Leinhart
Jets- AJ Hawk
Packers- Mario Williams
Now this is where it gets tricky. San Fran gets to choose from really 3 players. Vernon Davis(TE Maryland), Michael Huff(DB Texas), Haloti Ngata(NT Oregon). My guess is they will take Vernon Davis to give Alex Smith a big and fast target.
49ers- Vernon Davis
Now we have Oakland. They lost Ted Washington to FA, so Ngata is a possibility here, as is a bunch of other players. But can anyone sit here and honestly say that Al Davis will pass on Vince Young? I sure as hell cant...
Raiders- Vince Young
This is where we possibly lose a player that the Browns were targeting... Ngata and Bunkley both could go here. My guess is that they draft Ngata.
Bills- Haloti Ngata
The Lions will probably take the best WR on the board... all jokes aside look for Michael Huff to go here...
Lions- Michael Huff
Now the Cards have a tricky situation. They can take Cutler and groom him under Kurt Warner.. but I have heard rumors that Dennis Green is looking for an impact player because his time is running out... But since they are only rumors, I think they take Cutler
Arizona- Jay Cutler
St. Louis is also a fan of Bunkley, and Manny Lawson for that matter. My guess is that they take the 250 lb DE that runs a 4.41 and put him on that sick fast Rams turf.
St. Louis- Manny Lawson
Cleveland:
1) Haloti Ngata(6'4" 330 lbs.)
2) Broderick Bunkley(6'3" 306 lbs.)
3) Kameron Wimbley(6'4" 248 lbs.)
4) Manny Lawson(6'6" 250 lbs.)
5) Bobby Carpenter(6'2" 256 lbs.)
In all likelihood that is Clevelands defensive draft board. Ngata lasting that long is a longshot, but Bunkley possibly could be there, although every day it sounds more and more like he might not. Wimbley is comparable to a young Boulware(whom Savage drafted.)
Rumor is that the Seahawks will trade their 31st overall pick to the Jets from John Abraham.
St. Louis is interested in Bunkley, and they pick right before us. The Eagles are also very interested in Bunkley, and they have the 16th pick. The Browns are very interested in Wimbley(LB FSU, 6'4" 248 lbs.)
The Texans will undoubtedly take Reggie Bush. The Saints possibly could trade their pick, but right now it seems they are content taking D'Brickashaw Ferguson. There is no way in hell that Norm Chow will allow the Titans to pass on Matt Leinhart. The Jets WILL NOT take Mario Williams. They recently signed ex-Bengal Kimo von Olwhateverthehellhislastnameis, and also have another good DE on the roster. The Jets will take AJ Hawk, which will lead to the Packers taking Mario Williams.
Texans-Reggie Bush
Saints- D'Brickashaw Ferguson
Titans- Matt Leinhart
Jets- AJ Hawk
Packers- Mario Williams
Now this is where it gets tricky. San Fran gets to choose from really 3 players. Vernon Davis(TE Maryland), Michael Huff(DB Texas), Haloti Ngata(NT Oregon). My guess is they will take Vernon Davis to give Alex Smith a big and fast target.
49ers- Vernon Davis
Now we have Oakland. They lost Ted Washington to FA, so Ngata is a possibility here, as is a bunch of other players. But can anyone sit here and honestly say that Al Davis will pass on Vince Young? I sure as hell cant...
Raiders- Vince Young
This is where we possibly lose a player that the Browns were targeting... Ngata and Bunkley both could go here. My guess is that they draft Ngata.
Bills- Haloti Ngata
The Lions will probably take the best WR on the board... all jokes aside look for Michael Huff to go here...
Lions- Michael Huff
Now the Cards have a tricky situation. They can take Cutler and groom him under Kurt Warner.. but I have heard rumors that Dennis Green is looking for an impact player because his time is running out... But since they are only rumors, I think they take Cutler
Arizona- Jay Cutler
St. Louis is also a fan of Bunkley, and Manny Lawson for that matter. My guess is that they take the 250 lb DE that runs a 4.41 and put him on that sick fast Rams turf.
St. Louis- Manny Lawson
Cleveland:
1) Haloti Ngata(6'4" 330 lbs.)
2) Broderick Bunkley(6'3" 306 lbs.)
3) Kameron Wimbley(6'4" 248 lbs.)
4) Manny Lawson(6'6" 250 lbs.)
5) Bobby Carpenter(6'2" 256 lbs.)
In all likelihood that is Clevelands defensive draft board. Ngata lasting that long is a longshot, but Bunkley possibly could be there, although every day it sounds more and more like he might not. Wimbley is comparable to a young Boulware(whom Savage drafted.)
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The Man
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Atlanta acquired Abraham tonight, Seattle was out of the running as soon as they signed Julian Peterson. 3-way deal w/ NYJ, Denver and Atl. as a result Atl. gets Abraham, Denvers' 1st rounder (29th) a 3rd this year and 4th next year. Denver gets Atl. #1 (15th) and the Jets gets the pick Atl. acquired from Denver, the 29th.
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scarletngrey11
All right, all right, all right.
Wow never heard about that one.
Im not going to bother and try to figure it out.
I heard that Seattle offered the #31 pick for Abraham straight up, and Atlanta only offered a 2nd rounder.
Im not going to bother and try to figure it out.
I heard that Seattle offered the #31 pick for Abraham straight up, and Atlanta only offered a 2nd rounder.
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The Man
The truth
Abraham would not work out a long term deal with Seattle, he is from S.C. and wanted to play in Atl. which in-turn tied the NYJ hands as he had already worked out a long term deal w/ the Falcons. Rumor is Denver wanted to move up (from 29 to 15) to take a QB (Cutler is the name being brought up).
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OSUBasketballJunkie
Never Forget 31-0
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3/22/06
3/22/06
Browns: Big Ben’s Miami target is a mid-round pick
Wednesday, March 22, 2006
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Butch Davis opted not to play defense in the first round of the 2004 draft, and the Browns got burned.
Rather than keeping Miami (Ohio) quarterback Ben Roethlisberger away from Pittsburgh, Davis traded up from No. 7 to No. 6 to get tight end Kellen Winslow Jr. of Miami (Fla.).
The Steelers picked Roethlisberger at No. 11. Head Coach Bill Cowher still can’t believe his good fortune.
“Yeah, we really pulled a quick one,” Cowher told The Repository sarcastically at the NFL Combine. “When you have a chance to get a premier player like that, you can’t bypass him.”
Now, Phil Savage must decide whether to play draft defense against the Steelers, this time on a smaller scale.
Savage must decide if it is important to beat Pittsburgh to Miami (Ohio) receiver Martin Nance, a maneuver that may require spending a third- or fourth-round pick. The Browns acquired an extra pick this week by sending safety Chris Crocker to Atlanta. They could get more picks if they trade center Jeff Faine, expendable after the LeCharles Bentley signing, or trade down from their No. 12 spot in the first round.
The Steelers want a young wideout who can grow up with Roethlisberger, and the 6-foot-4 Nance seems ideal.
In 2003 at Miami, Roethlisberger and Nance hooked up 90 times for 1,498 yards. Nance blew out an ACL in 2004, then somewhat restored his reputation as a tall, swift receiver with sure hands in 2005. He made 73 catches for 984 yards and 14 TDs.
“Ben and I have a great chemistry on the field and a great friendship off the field,” Nance said at the Combine. “Playing together again is something I think we both would enjoy.”
THE MAC PACK
Nance and Roethlisberger would set up defenses with routes that began with Nance sprinting 15 to 20 yards.
“The defense didn’t know whether I’d break off the route or go deep,” Nance said. “That opened a lot of deeper routes. We were able to do a lot across the board.”
Nance says he has run the 40 as fast as 4.35 seconds, but scouts seem suspicious of his speed. They wonder if his stride is too long to get open early in routes.
He’s almost as tall as Plaxico Burress, who did well with Roethlisberger in 2004.
“I’m a big receiver who can stretch the field and also make plays after the catch,” Nance said. “I don’t consider myself a possession guy at all.”
Nance seems very familiar with the Browns. At the Super Bowl, he looked up Braylon Edwards to wish him well in his recovery from knee surgery.
Nance also has a good feel for Browns QB Charlie Frye, having face Frye’s Akron team three times in college.
The Browns have signed Joe Jurevicius to go with Edwards but want more depth in their wideouts without spending a first- or second-round pick.
Nance is a possibility for later in the draft, but don’t forget about another MAC receiver, draft riser Domenik Hixon of Akron, who might be perfect for Frye.
OLD PAL CHARLIE
Hixon opened eyes in a recent campus workout, running 40-yard dashes posted at 4.39 and 4.36 on nfl.com.
He was measured at 6-foot-2 1/2 and did a 38 1/2-inch vertical jump, numbers that make scouts salivate no matter where he went to school.
He’s a bit of an unknown because he was a free safety as recently as 2003, when he led Akron with 111 tackles. He switched to receiver in during Frye’s senior year of 2004. Hixon had 66 catches for 882 yards and helped beat Marshall with a monster game — 13 catches for 192 yards.
While Frye was spending his rookie year in Cleveland, Hixon made 75 catches for 1,210 yards. Frye was in the house for Hixon’s Pro Day workout March 10 at Akron.
Another interesting Browns possibility is Edwards’ former Michigan teammate, Jason Avant.
In 2004, when Edwards won the Biletnikoff Award, Avant gave the Wolverines 38 catches for 447 yards. In 2005, when Edwards was a rookie No. 3 draft pick in Cleveland, Avant was a captain who caught 82 passes for 1,007 yards. Edwards, who turned 23 on Feb. 21, is just two months older than Avant.
Some see Avant as a possible Round 2 pick, but the Browns have spent five first- or second-round picks on wideouts during the expansion era and probably won’t do so this year.
If Avant slips to Round 3, that’s different.
Reach Repository sports writer Steve Doerschuk at (330) 580-8347 or e-mail: [email protected]
Wide world of receivers
A projection of the top wide receivers available in the draft in what is seen as a weak overall crop:
Round 1 Santonio Holmes (5-11, 188), Ohio State; Sinorice Moss (5-8, 185), Miami, Fla.
Rounds 1-2 Chad Jackson (6-1, 213), Florida State; Demetrius Williams (6-2, 197), Oregon; Maurice Stovall (6-5, 217), Notre Dame; Jason Avant (6-1, 212), Michigan.
Rounds 2-3 Devin Aromashodu (6-3, 201), Auburn; Derek Hagan (6-2, 208), Arizona State; Greg Lee (6-2, 201), Pitt; Others to watch Martin Nance (6-4, 213), Miami, Ohio; Todd Watkins (6-3, 202), BYU; Jonathan Orr (6-2, 198), Wisconsin; Domenik Hixon (6-2 1/2, 200), Akron. STEVE DOERSCHUK
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scarletngrey11
All right, all right, all right.
Reports from the Iowa Pro Day have Chad Greenway running an unofficial 4.4.
Am I the only one that finds that very unlikely?
Am I the only one that finds that very unlikely?
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scarletngrey11
All right, all right, all right.
The early reports were that he ran a 4.4, then on his second try ran a 4.6.
Just curious as to if you guys would want to bring in Wilhelm?
My dad works with his uncle, and his uncle said that the Browns are very interested in bringing him in.
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