Cleveland Browns (2007 & prior)

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CPD

Browns sink with drop, drop, drop



Friday, December 08, 2006 Mary Kay Cabot

Plain Dealer Reporter
Pittsburgh- Browns quarterback Derek Anderson had a decent starting debut against the Steelers, but he could've used a little help from his friends.
Anderson, known for his cannon arm, did everything the Browns could've hoped for and more - but his receivers dropped at least seven passes and let two others glance off their hands.
"There's a different velocity on Derek's ball than Charlie [Frye's]," said Braylon Edwards, who had one drop but caught the only touchdown pass. "We're not trying to make excuses, but Derek throws the ball very hard, so when you turn around, the ball is humming. It's there. You don't have time to play around. You have to be ready. The weather didn't affect the ball at all because Derek throws such a tight spiral."
The biggest offender was Dennis Northcutt, who dropped three passes and couldn't reach one that went off his fingertips near the sideline. After his third drop in the third quarter, Northcutt got a lecture on the sidelines from coach Romeo Crennel.
"It was a bad night," Northcutt said. "What more can I say? Y'all saw it. It was just one of those nights. I have nothing more to say. I played a bad game."
But Northcutt certainly wasn't alone. Also participating in the dropfest were Edwards, Jason Wright, Darnell Dinkins and Terrelle Smith. Another pass went off the fingertips of Joe Jurevicius near the sideline, but it was just out of his reach.
In fact, Jurevicius was about the only receiver that could catch Anderson's passes consistently. He finished with seven receptions for 111 yards, with a long gain of 27. Edwards caught a 45-yard touchdown to avert the shutout late in the fourth quarter.
"He played well and did some good things, but we did some things that maybe hurt him," Jurevicius said. "It's not that he's a new quarterback. The conditions weren't prime, but that's not an excuse. We did some things that hurt us.
"The only thing to do when you drop a ball is go back and get to work. I can't answer for everybody. Dropped balls happen and sometimes they happen a little more, especially when it's cold outside."
Said Wright: "Nobody plans to drop the ball. I'm sure [the change in velocity] is as good a reason as any. But at the same time, a pass is a pass and you've got to catch it. That's what we get paid to do. I touched the ball, so I'll count it."
Despite the drops, Anderson finished with 21 completions on 37 attempts for 276 yards with the touchdown and an interception.
"The ball I dropped was thrown behind me a little bit, but I make those catches in practice all the time," Dinkins said. "At the end of the day, we're all professionals. We have to catch the ball."
All the receivers said they wish they could've done more to help Anderson.
"Derek made good reads, got the ball out of his hands and put it in catchable scenarios," Edwards said. "The line gave him great protection and he played outstanding."

 

[osugrad21]

CPD

Browns can't shake chill of futile season


Friday, December 08, 2006Bill Livingston
Plain Dealer Columnist
Pittsburgh -- The wind whipped snow across the sky, and the streamers atop the Heinz Field uprights stiffened like the resolve of the Pittsburgh Steelers.
On a night only Donder and Blitzen could love, the Browns auditioned another quarterback, Derek Anderson, and went home with their usual coal lump for Christmas. Pittsburgh won easily, 27-7.
The night felt mean as Joe Greene, although he might think these Steelers and their 6-and-7 record are a blot on the achievements of their illustrious ancestors.
For the 4-and-9 Browns, the trip to the stadium between the rivers has seldom been a happy one. Since the team was reborn in 1999, only Tim Couch (twice) has directed the Browns to victory here.
The blitz-happy Steelers and thousands of fans in parkas snapping Terrible Towels make this no place to break in a young quarterback. Still, that was the case for Anderson. Charlie Frye, the designated flinger for the season, who also had never played a game here, was flung to the ground once too often last week and sidelined with a wrist injury.
"The rivalry continues . . ." the replay board read before the opening kickoff.
So does the futility.
So does the seventh lost season in the eight since the Browns returned.
So does a quarterback search that, really, has been going on since Bernie Kosar got busted up.
Anderson played better than the score indicated, especially since Frye's appeal was becoming limited to that of a bop-bag that pops up to absorb more punishment. Frye is likable, tough, can play in spots, and in no way has proven he is a starter in the NFL.
During his 17 games as a starter, Frye had to play behind a patchwork line whose shortcomings became shorter because he holds the ball too long and makes decisions too slowly to goose the passing game along. Much of his appeal has been that he is a local from the University of Akron. If he were from the University of Idaho, fewer eyes would be on him than a potato.
Anderson took over for Frye on Sunday and led the comeback from 14 points behind Kansas City in the fourth quarter to an overtime victory. But the Steelers, even with ferocious safety Troy Polamalu sidelined, are not the Chiefs. They are not going to sit back. They are going to come after you. They are going to be the bump in the night.
Anderson threw for 276 yards, completing 21 of 37 passes with one touchdown and one interception. He also lost a fumble. The statistics are even more impressive because he was not sacked, even though guard Joe Andruzzi was lost with a knee injury during the game, even though the Browns rushed the ball from scrimmage only 11 times.

Anderson was not helped by seven drops. Seven. Three of them could have resulted in first downs.
Dennis Northcutt dropped three of them. Hey, it's Pittsburgh. Stuff like this happens to him here. Butch Davis has taken a lot of deserved flak for his talent misjudgments when he ran the Browns. But the former coach was right about Northcutt. He is a third-down receiver and kick returner. He is not a featured receiver.
Braylon Edwards, who also snagged a pass that he ran in for the Cleveland touchdown in garbage time, dropped one. Jason Wright dropped one. Darnell Dinkins dropped one. Terrelle Smith dropped one.
Counting Northcutt, that's two wide receivers, a tight end, a halfback, a fullback, and a partridge dropping out of a pear tree. In a hostile environment, on a one-dimensional team, without a lot of help from his friends, Anderson was impressive. He should start next week in Baltimore against his old team.
The answer to the Browns' ongoing quarterback question might be blowing in the wind. But Anderson sure wasn't the problem here.

 

[osugrad21]

Canton


Steelers embarrass Browns, again
Friday, December 8, 2006
By STEVE DOERSCHUK

PITTSBURGH It would be unfair to say Willie Parker ran like LaDainian Tomlinson in Pittsburgh?s 27-7 head-slapping of the Browns on Thursday. It would be unfair to Parker.
In a 32-25 loss Nov. 5 at San Diego, the Browns didn?t let Tomlinson loose until late ? he finished with 18 carries for 172 yards.
Parker had 106 of his 223 yards with five minutes left in the first half.
Maybe new North Carolina Head Coach Butch Davis, who didn?t draft Tomlinson while in Cleveland, would have had the presence to use Parker as a starter for the Tar Heels.
Parker barely played at North Carolina. On Thursday, he broke Frenchy Fuqua?s 36-year-old Steelers single-game rushing record of 218 yards.
This French fist didn?t figure. Parker had rushed 46 yards Nov. 19 at Cleveland.
Browns quarterback Derek Anderson, replacing injured Charlie Frye, didn?t quite have that kind of support from his running game. Four backs totaled 14 yards.
Combine that with a rash of dropped passes, and you have a recipe for the kind of disaster that had Browns fans talking about the next head coach following a 30-0 loss to Cincinnati.
?We got our (drawers) kicked,? said disgusted veteran wideout Joe Jurevicius. ?We keep talking about taking steps forward. This was a step backward. This is very frustrating.?
Braylon Edwards, who caught a touchdown pass but made key drops, hinted at something deep and dark.
?There are a lot of other things bothering us that I won?t comment on,? he said.
The Steelers (5-6) have a faint pulse in the wild-card race, with games left against Carolina, Baltimore and Cincinnati.
The Browns (4-9) have a chance to draft real high.
This was nothing like the Nov. 19 game in which the Browns led the Steelers, 20-10, in the fourth quarter.
?I wanted a shutout, because they talk so much,? Pittsburgh linebacker Joey Porter said. ?That?s OK. It was on TV, so everybody could see we beat ?em bad.?
Cleveland blundered through the first half, dropping passes, letting Willie Parker run wild, losing a fumble and getting outgained 256-160.
Yet, they had a chance to trail just 10-3 at halftime. That was erased when Phil Dawson missed a field goal for the third time in four games.
The first two series of the second half wrecked Cleveland?s chances. A Browns drive stalled on Dennis Northcutt?s third dropped pass of the night.
A Steelers drive got legs on a 20-yard Roethlisberger strike to Santonio Holmes, a third-down scramble that ended with Roethlisberger finding tight end Jerame Tuman, and a bootleg run for a touchdown by Roethlisberger.
It was 17-0 with 5:32 left in the third quarter.
What was supposed to be Leigh Bodden?s breakthrough year as a starter has been nightmarish. He missed five of seven games with ankle problems. Last Sunday, he got picked on by veteran quarterback Trent Green.
On Thursday, playing near his college stomping gropunds of Duquesne, Bodden bit hard on a pump fake and gave up a 49-yard touchdown. Roethlisberger basically relaxed his body and lobbed a deep throw to a wide-open Nate Washington. Adding to Bodden?s embarrassment is that Washington is Pittsburgh?s No. 4 receiver in his second year out of Tiffin.
Playing without his No. 1 and No. 2 wideouts, injured Hines Ward and Cedrick Wilson, Roethlisberger completed a key pass to No. 5 wideout Walter Young ? his first NFL catch ? to set up a field goal that made it 10-0 midway through the second quarter.
Bodden saved some face by stripping the ball from Willie Parker at the end of a long run. That gave the Browns? stalled offense a chance in good field position.
Anderson ruined the chance when he fumbled after making a first down on a third-down quarterback draw.
It was the kind of night Browns fans snug in their living rooms could leave faster than Steelers fans sitting in a 25-degree chill.
Die-hards saw Braylon Edwards catch a 45-yard touchdown pass.
Then, for the second time in three games, they saw an AFC North opponent close the game with some garbage-time work for its No. 2 quarterback.
?They want to be on our level,? Porter said. ?I don?t see it.?

 

[osugrad21]

Canton

Farrior, Porter have problem with Winslow
Friday, December 8, 2006
By STEVE DOERSCHUK

PITTSBURGH The Steelers flattened the Browns, 27-7, on Thursday, then linebackers Joey Porter and James Farrior piled on.
To be specific, they verbally teed off on Browns tight end Kellen Winslow Jr., who had a four-catch, 19-yard night, but has become a focal point for Pittsburgh in the rivalry.
Porter is sure to get some heat for his response to what he and Winslow were jawing at each other about. Assuming, of course, Porter was challenging Winslow?s manhood and not referring to an old English bundle of wood.
?Aw, he?s a (expletive),? Porter said. ?He tried to jack me up before the game, and ... he?s soft, though. I don?t pay any attention to him.?
With 61⁄2 minutes left and the Steelers leading 27-0, Winslow was flagged for a 15-yard personal foul for hitting Farrior.
?It was late,? Porter said. ?That?s what (expletive)s do. You know, he?s soft. He wanna be tough, but he?s really soft.
?It was a cheap shot. He?s weak. He?s real weak. He?s soft. He might want to play receiver, ?cause he don?t want to play tight end.
?He tried to give me a handshake before the game. He?s not my friend. You don?t know me. What are you tryin? to shake my hand for??
Farrior echoed Porter.
?Yeah, he?s soft. He?s a punk. And he does a lot of talking for a guy who?s in his second year and hasn?t really done anything. He needs to take a page out of his father?s book or something.?
Farrior?s take on the late hit:
?It was weak. I mean, it didn?t hurt. I tried to take his head off on the next play, but I couldn?t get to him.
?It?s all in football. ... If a guy wants to do a cheap shot, you know, he?ll get his.?
Winslow declined to be interviewed after the game. He did spend several post-game moments huddled with 70-year-old Hall of Famer Jim Brown.

Reach Repository sports writer
Steve Doerschuk at (330) 580-8347 or e-mail: [email protected].
A little color
No one in the crowd pouring across the bridge wore a dress.
What a night to be in kilts, as were members of a bagpipe troupe playing outside Heinz Field.
Downtown Pittsburgh was frozen solid as bundled fans emptied toward Heinz Field. Most walk upwards of a mile or more, sometimes finding Steelers owner Dan Rooney shuffling among them.
Some of the fans, but not many, wore Browns colors. One woman wore a Northcutt 86 over a heavy coat. It made one observer think of the pass Dennis Northcutt dropped near the end of a 2002 playoff game ? Northcutt would drop four passes in this game.

Fast Willie
Willie Parker broke out of his recent slump, giving the Steelers? 223 rushing yards. The Browns countered weakly, getting 13 as a team in the first half, then lapsing into passing mode.
The Steelers came out picking on right defensive end Simon Fraser, starting in place of injured Orpheus Roye. Parker ran Fraser?s way on the first two plays, and it wasn?t the last time.
Parker had 105 rushing yards with five minutes left in the first half. That was stunning, considering Parker had totaled 129 rushing yards 92.7 per-carry average over his previous three games.
Parker had been slumping, and the Browns? run defense had been mostly respectable.
Feature-back performances against the Browns between LaDainian Tomlinson?s and Parker?s were by Warrick Dunn (21 carries for 73 yards), Parker himself (14 for 46) and Larry Johnson (28 for 110).

Extra points
n NFL Network analyst Cris Collinsworth on Braylon Edwards: ?I would like to have a little more speed if I?m going to spend that high a pick (No. 3 overall, 2005).?
n Left guard Joe Andruzzi left the game with a knee problem in the second quarter and was replaced by Lennie Friedman.

 

[osugrad21]

Dispatch

Browns steamrolled
Parker sets record with 223 rushing yards as Steelers continue mastery of Cleveland
Friday, December 08, 2006
James Walker
THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH

PITTSBURGH ? Another game, another embarrassing loss to the Pittsburgh Steelers.
The inconsistent Browns reverted to their patsy ways last night as the rival Steelers made it look easy and pounded Cleveland into submission during a 27-7 victory in Heinz Field.
It was evident early that the Browns (4-9) were not ready for prime time, or the Steelers for that matter. Pittsburgh has now beaten Cleveland seven straight times and 13 out of last 14.
Before a nationally televised audience on the NFL Network, Cleveland staged a pathetic display of football. The Browns couldn?t run (18 rushing yards), catch the football (at least six drops), or tackle with any regularity, and all of this came just five days after the team?s most thrilling win of the season against the Kansas City Chiefs.
"It?s typical Cleveland football right now," Browns receiver Braylon Edwards said. "There?s passion at times."
"At times" couldn?t cut it against the aggressive Steelers (6-7), who showed no mercy last night. Pittsburgh running back Willie Parker set a team record with 223 yards and a touchdown. He zipped through the Browns defense at a clip of 7 yards per carry.
Without starting quarterback Charlie Frye, who sat out the game with a wrist injury, the Browns offense showed little life. Backup Derek Anderson made his first NFL start and looked confused. He completed 21 of 37 passes for 276 yards, one interception and one touchdown.
Anderson failed to catch lightning in a bottle for the second straight game. This one was never close, and Anderson?s touchdown came in garbage time on a 45-yard pass to Edwards late in the fourth quarter.
"We got beat thoroughly tonight," Browns coach Romeo Crennel said. "Offense, defense, special teams ? we didn?t play well in any of them."
Meanwhile, everyone got in on the fun for the Steelers.
It wasn?t just Parker?s night. Pittsburgh quarterback Ben Roethlisberger threw for 225 yards and had two touchdowns (one passing, one rushing), and Ohio State product Santonio Holmes replaced Hines Ward in the starting lineup and had four recep- tions for 81 yards.
The Steelers racked up a seasonhigh 528 total yards.
Pittsburgh utilized three- and four-receiver sets early to put together lengthy scoring drives. They marched 97 and 78 yards in the first half to take a 10-0 lead at intermission.
Roethlisberger was effective out of the shotgun and found receiver Nate Washington for a 49-yard touchdown pass in the first quarter.
The early passing success opened it up for Parker, who took the game over in the final three quarters. His longest run was 39 yards and his touchdown came from 3 yards in the third quarter to give the Steelers a 24-0 lead.
Cleveland played sloppy from start to finish. In the first two quarters, the Browns lost a fumble, dropped five passes on offense, and kicker Phil Dawson was wide left on a 40-yard field goal attempt.
The Browns failed to win two in a row; they haven?t accomplished the feat since 2003. They also dropped to 0-5 in the AFC North Division and 1-10 in the past two seasons. Now the team once again has to try to explain its inconsistency.
"There are a lot of other things that are bothering us, and that are bothering this whole organization," Edwards said. "It?s not one thing that you can point out and say ?If we do this better, we?ll win. If we get this together, we?ll win.?
"There are a lot of other things that are going on that I will not comment about that are affecting us."

 

[osugrad21]

Dispatch

Friday, December 08, 2006

 

[osugrad21]

Dispatch

BROWNS NOTEBOOK
Watching sorry offense was painful for Frye
Friday, December 08, 2006
James Walker
THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH

PITTSBURGH ? Browns starting quarterback Charlie Frye couldn?t play last night because of his injured right wrist. But that paled in comparison with the pain he felt watching Cleveland?s offense put forth another ugly performance last night in a 27-7 loss to the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Frye wanted to play but wasn?t healthy enough. During a short week of preparation, Frye missed the team?s only practice Tuesday and was made the emergency quarterback behind starter Derek Anderson and backup Ken Dorsey.
"That?s the thing," Frye said after the game. "I think if we would have played on a Sunday, I might have been able to play this week."
Frye is optimistic about his chances of returning Dec. 17 against the Baltimore Ravens, especially with the 10 days of rest between games.
"I hope so," Frye said. "That?s another game that we had a good chance of winning the last time we played (Baltimore)."
No so friendly

Browns tight end Kellen Winslow Jr. and Steelers linebacker Joey Porter exchanged trash talk all week, but when it was time to "face the bully," as Winslow says, Porter would have none of it.
The two had a brief pregame meeting when Winslow ran over to Porter in an attempt to exchange pleasantries. Porter refused, so Winslow tapped him on the shoulder instead and the two quickly went their separate ways.
Before the Browns-Steelers game on Nov. 19, Winslow and Porter had to be separated by officials.
"I can see him getting going, and he?s like a bull," Winslow said. "I love playing versus guys like that."
Spread ? em out

Pittsburgh scored 21 fourthquarter points in its first meeting with Cleveland by using the spread offense. So it was no surprise last night when the Steelers used that offense early and often.
The Steelers, normally a running team, went to three- and fourreceiver sets to spread out the Browns defense. Cleveland had problems defending the spread as Pittsburgh put together scoring drives of 97 and 78 yards in taking a 10-0 lead at the half.
Injury report

In addition to Frye, the Browns were without two other starters because of injuries. Free safety Brian Russell missed his second game of the season because of an elbow injury. Defensive end Orpheus Roye sat out his second straight game because of an injured knee.
Ohio State product Simon Fraser started in place of Roye. Fraser made his first career start Sunday in a win over Kansas City. Brodney Pool replaced Russell.
Pittsburgh was without Pro Bowl safety Troy Polamalu (knee), guard Chris Kemoeatu, safety Ryan Clark, and receivers Hines Ward and Cedrick Wilson.

 

[OSUBasketballJunkie]

TheMorningJournal

Running away with it
JEFF SCHUDEL, Morning Journal Writer
12/08/2006


PITTSBURGH -- Never, never until they show some sign they can do it, can the Browns again talk about how important it is to be a good running team because weather can be so merciless in November and December.


On a bitterly cold night, with a wind chill of 8 degrees at kickoff, the Browns had to be able to run to have any chance of beating the Steelers. The Steelers also knew how important it would be to establish the run on the frozen ground of Heinz Field.

The Steelers ran.

The Browns did not.

The misery continues.

Pittsburgh crushed the Browns, 27-7, to complete another series sweep. The Steelers have beaten the Browns seven straight times and 13 times in the last 14 games.

''We got beat thoroughly,'' Browns coach Romeo Crennel said. ''We couldn't run it, and they ran it consistently. We couldn't catch it and they caught it when they had to.

''When you can't stop them and you can't move it, you get beat. I can't explain it. I don't know why it happened, but it did.''

Crennel is now 1-10 against the AFC North. The Browns are 4-9 and the Steelers, with their playoff hopes still alive, are 6-7.

Steelers running back Willie Parker ripped through the Browns defense as though it was made of tissue paper. He rushed for 217 yards through three quarters and finished with 223 for the game. He might have broken the single game record of 295 yards the Ravens' Jamal Lewis set against the Browns in 2002, but coach Bill Cowher chose to pull him.

Conversely, Reuben Droughns and Jason Wright could not have been stopped any more efficiently than they were by the Steelers' defense.

The Steelers running backs carried 52 times for 303 yards. The Browns had 11 carries for 18 yards.

No conclusions could be drawn on how Derek Anderson played because his receivers, with the exception of Joe Jurevicius, struggled to catch the ball. It was a problem from beginning to end.

The Browns had at least seven dropped passes -- two by Braylon Edwards, three by Dennis Northcutt, one by Kellen Winslow and one by Terrelle Smith. There were even more misses, as Northcutt got his hands on another pass he failed to catch and Darnell Dinkins dropped one that was thrown behind him.

''It was one of those nights,'' Northcutt said. ''We lost. I played like (bleep). It had nothing to do with having a different quarterback. We got our butts whipped. They played more physical than us. We played bad football.''

Catching what felt like a cold rock predictably was difficult on such a night, but Steelers receivers held onto passes thrown by Ben Roethlisberger, and they were without starters Cedric Wilson and Hines Ward. Both were out with injuries.

The Steelers were also without starting safeties Troy Polamalu and Ryan Clark, but the Browns could not take advantage.

Just five days ago the Browns felt good after beating the Chiefs, 31-28 in overtime. Last night in the locker room, they were as crushed as they were when the Steelers beat them 41-0 on Christmas Eve last year. The Steelers produced 528 total yards.

Linebacker Andra Davis was so overcome he remained in uniform in front of his locker 20 minutes after the game ended. For the first time in his career, he declined to be interviewed.

The Browns hung in the game for a while, but only because Parker fumbled at the end of a 20-yard run and because Alvin McKinley blocked a field-goal attempt in the second quarter.

The Steelers led 10-0 at halftime. They scored when Roethlisberger launched a 49-yard touchdown pass to Nate Washington over Leigh Bodden, freezing Bodden with a pump fake and on a 23-yard field goal by Jeff Reed.

The Browns finally got on the scoreboard, their first touchdown against the Steelers in 12 quarters, when Anderson connected with Edwards on a 45-yard play on fourth-and-three with 5:20 to play. It was so late -- the score was 27-7 -- that only Jason Wright ran over to Edwards to congratulate him.

In between Reed's field goal and Edwards' touchdown Roethlisberger rushed for one touchdown from 2 yards out and Parker rushed for one from 3 yards out.

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Steelers 27, Browns 7

Cleveland 0 0 0 7 -- 7

Pittsburgh 7 3 14 3 -- 27

First Quarter

Pit--N.Washington 49 pass from Roethlisberger (Reed kick), 3:18.

Second Quarter

Pit--FG Reed 23, 9:15.

Third Quarter

Pit--Roethlisberger 2 run (Reed kick), 5:32.

Pit--W.Parker 3 run (Reed kick), 1:47.

Fourth Quarter

Pit--FG Reed 28, 7:26.

Cle--Edwards 45 pass from Anderson (Dawson kick), 5:20.

A--55,246.

TEAM STATISTICS

Cle Phi

First downs 11 26

Total Net Yards 294 528

Rushes-yards 11-18 52-303

Passing 276 225

Punt Returns 2-7 3-31

Kickoff Returns 6-95 2-32

Interceptions Ret. 0-0 1-20

Comp-Att-Int 21-37-1 11-21-0

Sacked-Yards Lost 0-0 0-0

Punts 6-38.2 2-33.0

Fumbles-Lost 1-1 2-1

Penalties-Yards 5-60 4-25

Time of Possession 21:13 38:47

INDIVIDUAL STATISTICS

RUSHING--Cleveland, Droughns 5-6, T.Smith 2-4, Anderson 1-4, Wright 2-2, Vickers 1-2. Pittsburgh, W.Parker 32-223, Davenport 14-62, Kuhn 1-16, Roethlisberger 3-4, Batch 2-(minus 2).

PASSING--Cleveland, Anderson 21-37-1-276. Pittsburgh, Roethlisberger 11-21-0-225, Batch 0-0-0-0.

RECEIVING--Cleveland, Jurevicius 7-111, Edwards 4-86, Winslow 4-19, Droughns 2-23, Heiden 2-21, Northcutt 1-12, Vickers 1-4. Pittsburgh, Holmes 4-81, N.Washington 2-67, Davenport 1-21, Tuman 1-18, Young 1-17, Morey 1-15, Kreider 1-6.

MISSED FIELD GOALS--Cleveland, Dawson 40 (WL). Pittsburgh, Reed 35 (BK).

 

[scarletngrey11]

So who do we draft?

I really like Joe Thomas... but we need help everywhere so...

 

[JCOSU86]

Guard Joe Andruzzi left the game in the first half with a knee injury. He was replaced by Lennie Friedman.

Lennie Friedman. There is your problem right there, playing a guy named Lennie Friedman. Sounds like a sitcom character. And in a way, he is.

 

[tsteele316]

So who do we draft?

I really like Joe Thomas... but we need help everywhere so...

if joe thomas is off the board, alan branch, assuming he comes out, which seems to be very likely.

the main crux of cleveland's problem is piss poor line play on both sides of the ball.

 

[JCOSU86]

the main crux of cleveland's problem is piss poor line play on both sides of the ball.

Are you serious? We've got Lennie Friedman!

 

[OH10]

Joey Porter vs. Kellen Winslow Jr.

There's a battle of (nit)wits...

EDIT: I will say this... it was classy of KWII to try and shake Porter's hand before the game. And there were some moments during the game where Winslow just got up, handed the ball to the official and shut up when he otherwise would have talked shit. But you've gotta keep up class the whole game, or it's just a farce. Joey Porter is a guy that will never have class, and if Winslow doesn't grow up, he'll be the same.

 

[Crashcup]

It really dosen't matter who they draft.

The ongoing futility of that organization crosses generations.

Latest case in point, the Broncos making silk purses out of 5 sow ears!

Before anyone takes any swipes at me, remember this. I have been a fan for so long I have totally given up and I am merely calling it like I see it.

Why is it that they cannot evaluate talent, develop talent or maintain any semblance of consistency with the staff and personnel for the last 20 years?

 

[OH10]

It really dosen't matter who they draft.

The ongoing futility of that organization crosses generations.

Latest case in point, the Broncos making silk purses out of 5 sow ears!

Before anyone takes any swipes at me, remember this. I have been a fan for so long I have totally given up and I am merely calling it like I see it.

Why is it that they cannot evaluate talent, develop talent or maintain any semblance of consistency with the staff and personnel for the last 20 years?

How can anyone take a swipe at the truth? The Browns and Blue Jackets epitomize sports futility right now.