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ORD_Buckeye;1568350; said:
ISU was a founding member of the Big 8. While the results may not have been spectacular, they've been considered a major college football team for decades.
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If you're defining "major" by affiliation, isn't that contradicting the argument that UC isn't "major" (now, not historically) in spite of their affiliation?

If you define "major" by results (my preference), neither of them are. ISU's affiliation with a major conference just means they've been an annual bye week for a few really good teams. I'm sure UC could've spent the last 100 years being a doormat for Nebraska & Oklahoma just the same as Iowa State - getting their heads slightly above water only when a decent coach like Majors, Bruce, Dantonio or Kelly passes thru town on their way to a bigger and better job.

ORD_Buckeye;1568350; said:
If we shared the state with Purdue or Pitt or Kentucky, I'd concede the legitimacy of an annual rivalry game. Cincy has been considered a major football team for three lousy years!

I just can't figure out why some would want to see us have to compete with Cincy for media attention and recruits, particularly in the one region of the state that has always been most difficult for us. We give Cincy a rivalry game, and we automatically hand them something on a silver platter that they've failed to actually earn for a century.
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Maybe that's directed at somebody else - I'm not arguing that UC deserves a seat at the big boy table with Ohio State. In fact, I'd argue the other way around - that Iowa has no business playing Iowa State - it's a lose-lose for the Hawkeyes - especially with the way Kirk Ferentz has been allergic to beating them during his tenure.
 
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Woody1968;1568345; said:
A better example of a rivalry comparable to tOSU vs. Cincy would be Penn State vs Pitt.
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Are you kidding me? Pitt has three unanimous NCs in addition to an AP NC, and a Heisman winner, and that's just to start. Name me something-anything-in UC's football history that even begins to approach the history of Pitt football.

Looking at it just from a football history standpoint, OSU vs Cincinnati is on par with Penn State vs Temple.
 
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buckeyesin07;1568453; said:
Are you kidding me? Pitt has three unanimous NCs in addition to an AP NC, and a Heisman winner, and that's just to start. Name me something-anything-in UC's football history that even begins to approach the history of Pitt football.

Looking at it just from a football history standpoint, OSU vs Cincinnati is on par with Penn State vs Temple.
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That may have been true before Temple got dumped from the Big East, but now they are in the MAC. But pointing out Pitt's history also bolsters my statement that the Big East is not utter crap on the level of the WAC, MAC or Conference USA.
 
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Woody1968;1568410; said:
I don't buy that it diminishes The Game, though. scUM has rivalries against Notre Dame and Sparty, and Illinois is technically a rivalry for us, since we play for a trophy. At the end of the season, we KNOW who our arch rival is.
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We have one rival. Just one. The same with TSUN. You notice, now that they are not winning, they don't discuss Notre Dame and MSU anymore.

One game. Every year. For everything.
 
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