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Cincinnati Bearcats (official thread)

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ORD_Buckeye;2128967; said:
Jake, juggalos have to work awfully hard to do anything.
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Some things seem to come naturally.

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MaxBuck;2129214; said:
A great argument can be made that U of C has a stronger basketball history than tOSU.
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Perhaps. I'd like to see some numbers though: final fours, sweet sixteens, all time winning percentage, all time top 10 finishes, total number of weeks ranked in AP poll, total number of weeks ranked in top 10 of AP poll, All-Americans, Players of the Year, NBA draft picks, HOF picks.

I'm not saying that Juggalo U wouldn't come out on top. I do believe, however, that too often that argument is overwhelming framed by 61 and 62 rather than any larger picture.
 
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ORD_Buckeye;2129227; said:
Perhaps. I'd like to see some numbers though: final fours, sweet sixteens, all time winning percentage, all time top 10 finishes, total number of weeks ranked in AP poll, total number of weeks ranked in top 10 of AP poll, All-Americans, Players of the Year, NBA draft picks, HOF picks.

I'm not saying that Juggalo U wouldn't come out on top. I do believe, however, that too often that argument is overwhelming framed by 61 and 62 rather than any larger picture.
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Cincy's wiki page sucks, but the little I was able to get from it:

6 Final Fours (1959-1963, 1992)
11 Sweet Sixteens (same as above + 1975, 1993, 1996, 2001, 2012)
3 Player of the Year awards (Oscar Robertson x 2, Kenyon Martin)
 
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BuckTwenty said:
Cincy's wiki page sucks, but the little I was able to get from it:

6 Final Fours (1959-1963, 1992)
11 Sweet Sixteens (same as above + 1975, 1993, 1996, 2001, 2012)
3 Player of the Year awards (Oscar Robertson x 2, Kenyon Martin)
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Compared to:

10 Final Fours (1939, 1944, 1945, 1946, 1960, 1961, 1962, 1968, *1999, 2007)
14 Sweet Sixteens (1960, 1961, 1962, 1968, 1971, 1980, 1983, 1991, 1992, *1999, 2007, 2010, 2011, 2012)
4 Player of the Year awards (Jerry Lucas x 2, Gary Bradds, Evan Turner)
 
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OHSportsFan;2129246; said:
Compared to:

10 Final Fours (1939, 1944, 1945, 1946, 1960, 1961, 1962, 1968, *1999, 2007)
14 Sweet Sixteens (1960, 1961, 1962, 1968, 1971, 1980, 1983, 1991, 1992, *1999, 2007, 2010, 2011, 2012)
4 Player of the Year awards (Jerry Lucas x 2, Gary Bradds, Evan Turner)
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Are you going with only Naismith winners? Because Jim Jackson won the UPI POY award in 92.
 
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MaxBuck;2129214; said:
A great argument can be made that U of C has a stronger basketball history than tOSU.
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Perhaps. Both have very strong basketball histories. Either way, I think that generally when people mock UC hoops, it's not over their history or caliber of play. It's over the reputation they acquired under Huggins for felony-ball. And, fair or not, that image was reinforced by the melee with Xavier this year. OSU has certainly had its teams where the rap sheet rivaled the stat sheet. But Cincy is particularly known for this, in recent years, and that's where the mockery comes from. Not from paucity of Final Fours.
 
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All Time Tournament Appearances
THEE Ohio State University 29 (make it to final four 31% of the time)
University of Commuters 26 (final four 27% of the time)

Basketball HOF
THEE Ohio State University 5 (6 if you count Bobby Knight)
Juggalos 3 (Oscar Robertson, John Howard, Jack Twyman)

All Time Records
THEE Ohio State University 1497-1002 .599
Ohio's BCS SChool 1520-868 .637

Point Juggalos, but I will argue that over the course of history, Ohio State played in one of the premier leagues in the country while UC played in essentially mid-major leagues until their recent entry into the Big East.

My point remains. Both have great basketball histories, but almost every point that I'm seeing is edging towards Ohio State. 61-62 tends to obscure that.

The Juggalo official website and media guide is a piece of [Mark May], so it's hard to dig up a lot of the stuff I'm looking for.
 
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NBA First Round Draft Picks
THEE Ohio State University 22
Juggalo Nation 9

All Americans is a little more difficult to determine

Ohio State's media guide claims 12 consensus All-Americans and 17 overall.

The UC guide seems to take the Alabama philosophy of claiming national titles. They claim pretty much everything from 3rd team AP selections to members of the "Citizens Savings" team, so it's difficult to weed out the fluff and compare their true AA selections with Ohio State.
 
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THE Ohio State goes to the Elite 8 while Cincinnati goes home.

Buckeyes 81, Juggalos 66

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