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jimotis4heisman;1495186; said:
actually i think that having barker/versteeg under contract helps them. (more valuable as trade pieces under contract)
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Maybe.

You think they'll trade Sharp?

I am wondering what they will do next year. all those RFA's equals cap hell to me.
 
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BuckeyeMike80 said:
Maybe.

You think they'll trade Sharp?

I am wondering what they will do next year. all those RFA's equals cap hell to me.
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i think its always a possibility. reality is worst case is that versteeg/barker dont walk for free/nothing. well i guess as rfa they likely would have been tendered (where they? dont know hard to tell, sounds like technically they were not) and could have been offer sheeted. i think in the cap era an essential will be dont let players walk, trade them for pennies, low picks anything is better than nothing... imo.

some parallels to the pens here imo. staal likely long term wont be in pitt, he is under contract (and not a bad one per se at 4m) to me that makes him more valueable at trade time with some level of "cost certainty" unless these guys tank out and suck it up then well their up the creek without the porverbial paddle.
 
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They're either moving someone between this year and next or they're losing one of their cornerstones. Apparently they are under the salary cap if they use the bonus cushion thing. Not usre how it works, but i think it counts against the cap next year so that just makes things worse...

It's already apparent guys like Billy Sweatt, Akim Aliu, and Kyle Beach are going to need to be ready for next year because there are going to be vacancies.

As it stands though, there are too many guys under contract. Unless you want to be having millions of dollars in healthy scratches night in and night out, someone has to go. I wouldn't be surprised if the team plays the year out and makes some serious trades next offseason. If anyone will take him, Brent Sopel will be moved.
 
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souL said:
They're either moving someone between this year and next or they're losing one of their cornerstones. Apparently they are under the salary cap if they use the bonus cushion thing. Not usre how it works, but i think it counts against the cap next year so that just makes things worse...

It's already apparent guys like Billy Sweatt, Akim Aliu, and Kyle Beach are going to need to be ready for next year because there are going to be vacancies.

As it stands though, there are too many guys under contract. Unless you want to be having millions of dollars in healthy scratches night in and night out, someone has to go. I wouldn't be surprised if the team plays the year out and makes some serious trades next offseason. If anyone will take him, Brent Sopel will be moved.
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im under the assumption they got those guys under contract so they can be potentially moved in the future. the franchise appears to have a "win now" approach and will attempt to outscore you to do it, not relying on defense/goaltending, rather moving the puck and scoring goals.
 
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souL said:
Chicago Blackhawks - News: Blackhawks Sign C Mark Cullen - 07/13/2009

Ok, SOMETHING is going on. The Hawks are certainly rostering a lot of guys, which makes me believe some sort of trade is coming down the pipeline. 3 for 1 maybe? There's been a lot of Kaberle talk which would certainly lend itself to your theory JO4H.

Though I'm hoping someone is going to send the Hawks 3 guys for Brian Campbell...
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thats a depth signing.

i think the bhawks think they can push for a deep run, as deep or deeper than last year. they dont have the goaltending to win it all but if you look at it this way they really think they can outscore, out man power you. how the jives in the comedy central (as sidney crosby described it in the 08 cup finals) will be interesting. it has essentially been the wings way the last few years, get the puck out of the zone, dont give up a second chance and score, score lots. win 4-3 or whatever might be needed. how does that work against an improving blues team? well a lot of that depends on mason (hes been inconsistent but finished hot as hell last year) and against the blue jackets (one of the best 5-5 teams in the league). the folks in chi town realize in the cap world their are windows, theirs is shall we say open, how open? is debatable but when you make the conference finals its not unreasonable to throw down to go for the gusto. its a live by the sword and survive by the sword situation. personally i still think with the guys like sharp/versteeg/barker (two more after this year) and sopel/seabrook (one more after this year) all those guys are eventually packagable/tradeable. the kane/toews/ladd/sklle/keith rfa situation will carry clout but i really think they can get value, thats the most important thing in the cap world, dont let guys walk for free.
 
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Oh no this is going to make Mike made now he can't fully blame Hossa for not showing up in the finals....

But seriously you have to give Hossa props for never bringing it up and making excuses for his lack of production. Though it could have been injured in the final game so not really of mattered.
 
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Hossa's contract with Blackhawks under NHL scrutiny | Hockey | Sports | Ottawa Sun

if the r word was used in contract negotiations it could be ugly...
The NHL is investigating whether Marian Hossa’s new 12-year, $62.8-million (all terms US) contract with the Blackhawks circumvents the collective bargaining agreement and the salary cap, Sun Media has learned.
The ’Hawks could be facing a maximum fine of $5 million and the loss of draft picks if the league’s investigation uncovers proof of allegations that Chicago discussed the possibility of Hossa retiring before the end of the deal, which would end Hossa’s cap hit.
NHL deputy commissioner Bill Daly confirmed the investigation in an e-mail yesterday, stating that league officials are concerned with the structure of the contract.
What it boils down to is Hossa’s cap hit over the 12 years is $5.23 million a season, but for the first seven years, he’ll make $7.9 million a season before dropping to $4 million in 2016-17.
It’s the final four years of the deal that have the NHL up in arms as Hossa is scheduled to earn $3.5 million, period.
If Hossa were to retire after the eighth season, the $5.23-million cap hit would disappear, too.
“We’re trying to understand how it was negotiated and whether the intent and effect is to circumvent the cap,” wrote Daly. “This was the first of the long-term contracts that took a player out past the age 40 and the value of the contract in its ‘out years’ was dramatically lower than its early years.
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