Chevy Volt: What Do You Think?

[Crump's brother]

True, but you take away Jeep from Chrysler, and Chrysler is not worth more than a box of rocks

The only reason the Germans bought Chrysler was the rights to the Jeep name. They should have brought back the Comanche, instead they wussified the vast majority of the Jeep lineup.

 

[Mac]

The only reason the Germans bought Chrysler was the rights to the Jeep name. They should have brought back the Comanche, instead they wussified the vast majority of the Jeep lineup.

True. But the only Jeeps worth keeping around are the Wrangler, GC, and I agree the Comanche was pretty sweet.

Speaking of the Comanche, there's rumors they're bringing it back.

 

[Crump's brother]

True. But the only Jeeps worth keeping around are the Wrangler, GC, and I agree the Comanche was pretty sweet.

Speaking of the Comanche, there's rumors they're bringing it back.

If they brought back the Comanche, made it bare bones with a fuel efficient V6/inline 4 people would buy it. It should have no power windows, stick shift, vent windows and no A/C either. If you ask for carpet, the salesman should be able to punch you in the vagina. Otherwise, call it a Dodge Dakota.

 

[muffler dragon]

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/09/10/us-generalmotors-autos-volt-idUSBRE88904J20120910

Insight: GM's Volt: The ugly math of low sales, high costs

General Motors Co sold a record number of Chevrolet Volt sedans in August ? but that probably isn't a good thing for the automaker's bottom line.
Nearly two years after the introduction of the path-breaking plug-in hybrid, GM is still losing as much as $49,000 on each Volt it builds, according to estimates provided to Reuters by industry analysts and manufacturing experts. GM on Monday issued a statement disputing the estimates.
Cheap Volt lease offers meant to drive more customers to Chevy showrooms this summer may have pushed that loss even higher. There are some Americans paying just $5,050 to drive around for two years in a vehicle that cost as much as $89,000 to produce.
And while the loss per vehicle will shrink as more are built and sold, GM is still years away from making money on the Volt, which will soon face new competitors from Ford, Honda and others.
GM's basic problem is that "the Volt is over-engineered and over-priced," said Dennis Virag, president of the Michigan-based Automotive Consulting Group.
And in a sign that there may be a wider market problem, Nissan, Honda and Mitsubishi have been struggling to sell their electric and hybrid vehicles, though Toyota's Prius models have been in increasing demand.
GM's quandary is how to increase sales volume so that it can spread its estimated $1.2-billion investment in the Volt over more vehicles while reducing manufacturing and component costs - which will be difficult to bring down until sales increase.
But the Volt's steep $39,995 base price and its complex technology ? the car uses expensive lithium-polymer batteries, sophisticated electronics and an electric motor combined with a gasoline engine ? have kept many prospective buyers away from Chevy showrooms.
Some are put off by the technical challenges of ownership, mainly related to charging the battery. Plug-in hybrids such as the Volt still take hours to fully charge the batteries - a process that can be speeded up a bit with the installation of a $2,000 commercial-grade charger in the garage.
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[Deety]

It's my opinion too-I've work on lots of cars, and Honda/Toyota uses better OEM parts than Jeep or Government Motors. The quality of bolts is even noticeable. Toyota did start to slip in the early 2000s however. I'd love to know why.

Back when I sold Hondas, I'd wander into the shop to see who might be ready to upgrade, and would regularly hear how much people loved their cars. When people are saying that while pulling out their checkbooks for maintenance and repairs, you know that's a good car.

 

[Crump's brother]

Back when I sold Hondas, I'd wander into the shop to see who might be ready to upgrade, and would regularly hear how much people loved their cars. When people are saying that while pulling out their checkbooks for maintenance and repairs, you know that's a good car.

What always cracked me up is when Honda owners switch brands because the new one reminds them so much of their old one with 200K on it. They generally get rid of their Hondas because they want something different, not because there's anything wrong with their car.

 

[Jake]

Exactly what I would expect from Government Motors.

 

[ScriptOhio]

Re: General Motors Co. is making modifications to the Volt because of a series of fires after test crashes of the plug-in hybrid vehicle. The fires were caused by a coolant leak that occurred when the car's battery pack was punctured during severe side test crashes by NHTSA.

Entire article: http://articles.latimes.com/2012/jan/21/business/la-fi-autos-volt-20120121

 

[Crump's brother]

How many people who would be interested in a Volt have a garage? You can't plug them in at your apartment.

 

[Fungo Squiggly]

Re: General Motors Co. is making modifications to the Volt because of a series of fires after test crashes of the plug-in hybrid vehicle. The fires were caused by a coolant leak that occurred when the car's battery pack was punctured during severe side test crashes by NHTSA.

Entire article: http://articles.latimes.com/2012/jan/21/business/la-fi-autos-volt-20120121

How do you manage to have a side impact collision in your garage?

 

[Mike80]

How do you manage to have a side impact collision in your garage?

you've obviously never seen my ex-wife drive....

......or have you....

 

[Taosman]

Wonder what a new battery pack for a Volt would cost?
Or a Prius?
How long do they last? " The Volt's battery is guaranteed by General Motors for eight years or 100,000 miles (160,000 km), and will cover all 161 battery components"

 

[ScriptOhio]

How do you manage to have a side impact collision in your garage?

Strange accidents can happen in a garage: