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Here's my All-Star break stats for Gooden double doubles and Jones/Marshall
3's. The Wizards game last week almost ruined my theory that the Cavs will win if Gooden
DD's and Jones/Marshall combine for at least 5 3's, but Gooden was short 1 rebound. They
were only 1 3 short of reaching it last night. Of course if they had they would have won in
regulation. :wink:

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</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17">Jones/Marshall 3's</td> <td x:num="" align="right">2</td> <td x:num="" align="right">2</td> <td x:num="" align="right">4</td> <td x:num="" align="right">0</td> <td x:num="" align="right">7</td> <td x:num="" align="right">5</td> <td x:num="" align="right">8</td> <td x:num="" align="right">1</td> <td x:num="" align="right">4</td> <td x:num="" align="right">2</td> <td x:num="" align="right">4</td> <td x:num="" align="right">3</td> <td x:num="" align="right">1</td> <td x:num="" align="right">2</td> <td x:num="" align="right">4</td> <td x:num="" align="right">2</td> <td x:num="" align="right">2</td> <td x:num="" align="right">2</td> <td x:num="" align="right">2</td> <td x:num="" align="right">6</td> <td x:num="" align="right">5</td> <td>
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</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17">Points Scored</td> <td x:num="" align="right">76</td> <td x:num="" align="right">106</td> <td x:num="" align="right">76</td> <td x:num="" align="right">85</td> <td x:num="" align="right">108</td> <td x:num="" align="right">90</td> <td x:num="" align="right">100</td> <td x:num="" align="right">106</td> <td x:num="" align="right">94</td> <td x:num="" align="right">91</td> <td x:num="" align="right">81</td> <td x:num="" align="right">84</td> <td x:num="" align="right">98</td> <td x:num="" align="right">106</td> <td x:num="" align="right">87</td> <td x:num="" align="right">89</td> <td x:num="" align="right">79</td> <td x:num="" align="right">73</td> <td x:num="" align="right">95</td> <td x:num="" align="right">89</td> <td x:num="" align="right">91</td> <td>
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medium none;">Chi</td> <td class="xl25" style="border-left: medium none;">Indy</td> <td class="xl25" style="border-left: medium none;">Chi</td> <td class="xl25" style="border-left: medium none;">Det</td> <td class="xl25" style="border-left: medium none;">Mil</td> <td class="xl25" style="border-left: medium none;">Mil</td> <td class="xl25" style="border-left: medium none;">JAZ</td> <td class="xl25" style="border-left: medium none;">IND</td> <td class="xl25" style="border-left: medium none;">ATL</td> <td class="xl25" style="border-left: medium none;">IND</td> <td class="xl25" style="border-left: medium none;">PHX</td> <td class="xl25" style="border-left: medium none;">CHA</td> <td class="xl25" style="border-left: medium none;">NJN</td> <td class="xl25" style="border-left: medium none;">Mil</td> <td class="xl25" style="border-left: medium none;">Min</td> <td class="xl25" style="border-left: medium none;">SA</td> <td class="xl25" style="border-left: medium none;">BOS</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17">Gooden pts</td> <td x:num="" align="right">7</td> <td x:num="" align="right">12</td> <td x:num="" align="right">11</td> <td x:num="" align="right">12</td> <td x:num="" align="right">11</td> <td x:num="" align="right">10</td> <td x:num="" align="right">15</td> <td x:num="" align="right">16</td> <td x:num="" align="right">13</td> <td x:num="" align="right">6</td> <td x:num="" align="right">14</td> <td x:num="" align="right">10</td> <td x:num="" align="right">2</td> <td x:num="" align="right">10</td> <td x:num="" align="right">6</td> <td x:num="" align="right">21</td> <td x:num="" align="right">20</td> <td x:num="" align="right">12</td> <td x:num="" align="right">18</td> <td x:num="" align="right">14</td> <td x:num="" align="right">2</td> <td x:num="" align="right">14</td> <td x:num="" align="right">11</td> <td x:num="" align="right">14</td> <td x:num="" align="right">5</td> <td x:num="" align="right">1</td> <td x:num="" align="right">18</td> <td x:num="" align="right">15</td> <td x:num="" align="right">1</td> <td x:num="" align="right">10</td> <td x:num="" align="right">19</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17">Gooden boards</td> <td x:num="" align="right">8</td> <td x:num="" align="right">10</td> <td x:num="" align="right">9</td> <td x:num="" align="right">9</td> <td x:num="" align="right">6</td> <td x:num="" align="right">9</td> <td x:num="" align="right">10</td> <td x:num="" align="right">13</td> <td x:num="" align="right">15</td> <td x:num="" align="right">8</td> <td x:num="" align="right">7</td> <td x:num="" align="right">8</td> <td x:num="" align="right">2</td> <td x:num="" align="right">4</td> <td x:num="" align="right">4</td> <td x:num="" align="right">12</td> <td x:num="" align="right">10</td> <td x:num="" align="right">13</td> <td x:num="" align="right">8</td> <td x:num="" align="right">17</td> <td x:num="" align="right">7</td> <td x:num="" align="right">10</td> <td x:num="" align="right">14</td> <td x:num="" align="right">10</td> <td x:num="" align="right">10</td> <td x:num="" align="right">12</td> <td x:num="" align="right">6</td> <td x:num="" align="right">7</td> <td x:num="" align="right">7</td> <td x:num="" align="right">10</td> <td x:num="" align="right">11</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17">Jones/Marshall 3's</td> <td x:num="" align="right">5</td> <td x:num="" align="right">3</td> <td x:num="" align="right">3</td> <td x:num="" align="right">3</td> <td x:num="" align="right">5</td> <td x:num="" align="right">4</td> <td x:num="" align="right">6</td> <td x:num="" align="right">3</td> <td x:num="" align="right">2</td> <td x:num="" align="right">5</td> <td x:num="" align="right">1</td> <td x:num="" align="right">7</td> <td x:num="" align="right">7</td> <td x:num="" align="right">4</td> <td x:num="" align="right">6</td> <td x:num="" align="right">5</td> <td x:num="" align="right">1</td> <td x:num="" align="right">3</td> <td x:num="" align="right">5</td> <td x:num="" align="right">3</td> <td x:num="" align="right">6</td> <td x:num="" align="right">0</td> <td x:num="" align="right">5</td> <td x:num="" align="right">0</td> <td x:num="" align="right">5</td> <td x:num="" align="right">3</td> <td x:num="" align="right">2</td> <td x:num="" align="right">1</td> <td x:num="" align="right">4</td> <td x:num="" align="right">2</td> <td x:num="" align="right">4</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17">Points Scored</td> <td x:num="" align="right">87</td> <td x:num="" align="right">93</td> <td x:num="" align="right">85</td> <td x:num="" align="right">70</td> <td x:num="" align="right">100</td> <td x:num="" align="right">99</td> <td x:num="" align="right">84</td> <td x:num="" align="right">120</td> <td x:num="" align="right">93</td> <td x:num="" align="right">105</td> <td x:num="" align="right">97</td> <td x:num="" align="right">85</td> <td x:num="" align="right">107</td> <td x:num="" align="right">85</td> <td x:num="" align="right">100</td> <td x:num="" align="right">89</td> <td x:num="" align="right">91</td> <td x:num="" align="right">84</td> <td x:num="" align="right">84</td> <td x:num="" align="right">96</td> <td x:num="" align="right">108</td> <td x:num="" align="right">96</td> <td x:num="" align="right">106</td> <td x:num="" align="right">96</td> <td x:num="" align="right">113</td> <td x:num="" align="right">103</td> <td x:num="" align="right">91</td> <td x:num="" align="right">89</td> <td x:num="" align="right">97</td> <td x:num="" align="right">101</td> <td x:num="" align="right">113</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17">Points Against</td> <td x:num="" align="right">109</td> <td x:num="" align="right">105</td> <td x:num="" align="right">112</td> <td x:num="" align="right">89</td> <td x:num="" align="right">108</td> <td x:num="" align="right">114</td> <td x:num="" align="right">102</td> <td x:num="" align="right">123</td> <td x:num="" align="right">115</td> <td x:num="" align="right">112</td> <td x:num="" align="right">102</td> <td x:num="" align="right">94</td> <td x:num="" align="right">115</td> <td x:num="" align="right">110</td> <td x:num="" align="right">108</td> <td x:num="" align="right">94</td> <td x:num="" align="right">102</td> <td x:num="" align="right">97</td> <td x:num="" align="right">91</td> <td x:num="" align="right">88</td> <td x:num="" align="right">90</td> <td x:num="" align="right">66</td> <td x:num="" align="right">97</td> <td x:num="" align="right">66</td> <td x:num="" align="right">106</td> <td x:num="" align="right">91</td> <td x:num="" align="right">85</td> <td x:num="" align="right">86</td> <td x:num="" align="right">91</td> <td x:num="" align="right">87</td> <td x:num="" align="right">109</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" 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2/17/06

James Gang doing well

LeBron's high school teammates find success in college

By Terry Pluto

<!-- begin body-content -->You might think they would be jealous of LeBron James, as the Cavaliers star spends this weekend at the NBA All-Star Game in Houston.
``Not at all,'' said Brandon Weems. ``LeBron says I'm like his little brother. I was at his house last weekend. We talk almost every day on the phone.''
Weems is of one of James' three former high school teammates playing for a different Cavaliers, Walsh University in North Canton.
Along with Corey Jones and Aly Samabaly, Weems remembers when they were part of the James Gang at St. Vincent-St. Mary High.
They traveled around the country, playing everywhere from the Palestra in Philadelphia to Pauley Pavilion in Los Angeles to Gund Arena (now Quicken Loans Arena) in downtown Cleveland.
In downtown Akron, three more members of the James Gang play for the Zips -- Dru Joyce III, Romeo Travis and Chad Mraz.
Akron's coach is Keith Dambrot, who coached James in his first two years at St. V-M.
``When you look at how successful those kids have been, it's pretty amazing,'' marveled Walsh coach Jeff Young.
Young's team won the 2005 NAIA Division II national title with Jones and Weems playing critical roles.
This season, Walsh is 22-6.
At Akron, Joyce and Travis start for a team that is 19-5, 12-2, and in first place of the Mid-American Conference's East Division.
At those two colleges, four of James' former teammates are starters.
``That's because the guys who played with LeBron are winning guys,'' said Dambrot. ``They really do know how to sacrifice for the team. They were willing to let LeBron have the spotlight.''
Or as Joyce said, ``LeBron didn't win all those games by himself.''
That includes three state titles and the 2003 mythical national title from USA Today.
Weems and Jones say they lost only eight games in their St. V-M careers, and they played for the Irish a year after James went to the Cavs as the No. 1 pick in the 2003 NBA Draft.
``After that experience in high school, every time we step on the floor, we just expect to win,'' said Jones. ``I came to Walsh expecting to play for a national title.''
Being around James inspired these players to think big.
Pickup games
James hasn't forgotten his high school roots.
Last summer, he arranged games at area gyms so he could work out with NBA players such as Earl Boykins, Devin Green, Nene and J.R. Smith. But he also invited some of the James Gang from St. V-M to play.
``Sometimes, there are 30 guys there, from pros to college to a couple from high school,'' said Joyce. ``We have some great games. LeBron still acts like he's one of us, even if he's in the NBA.''
The games were kept secret, arrangements being made at the last minute with players calling each other on cell phones. The idea was to keep the basketball pure, the public away. James didn't care if these guys played at Akron or Walsh.
These were his guys, and will always be his guys.
``One of the best things that ever happened to me was playing at St. V with LeBron,'' said Jones. ``LeBron made me a better player. He gave me so much confidence. He kept telling me that I was a good shooter, so shoot the ball. It was an amazing experience being with him.''
Jones is a remarkable outside shooter, averaging 14 points and shooting 50 percent from the field -- 44 percent on 3-pointers.
Weems, his Walsh teammate, is averaging almost nine points.
Talent overshadowed
There was a downside to playing with James.
``I think all of us were underrated,'' said Travis. ``We were all in his shadow and didn't get recruited much. But we played against guys like Carmelo Anthony and played the best teams in the nation.''
Walsh coach Young said: ``I don't think most college coaches knew how good those other kids were at St. V. It was all LeBron. You never saw their names on the college scouting reports. But we watched them all the time.''
The only Division I school to offer scholarships to Joyce III and Travis was Akron, and that's because Dambrot was their former high school coach.
``People thought I was just doing them a favor because of the St. V connection,'' said Dambrot. ``I was bringing them in because I wanted to win.''
The 6-foot-7, 220-pound Travis is Akron's leading scorer (13.9 points per game) and rebounder (6.1). Joyce is a 10-point scorer who leads the MAC in 3-point shooting (47 percent) and is second in assists.
Travis was supposed to be too small to play under the basket. The 6-foot Joyce was considered too short to play in the backcourt of a major-college program, especially because he doesn't seem quick.
``They fool you,'' said Dambrot. ``They know how to play. They understand the game.''
In his second year as Zips coach, Dambrot has Akron heading toward its first 20-game win season since 1988-89. His record with the Zips is 38-15.
``The St. V kids play to win,'' said Dambrot. ``They aren't into all the individual stuff.''
All the players praised their coaching at St. V-M. Dambrot was coach for the first two years of the James Era, then Dru Joyce II took over.
Moving on
At Walsh, Young discovered that to be true of Weems and Jones also.
``We had a coach at every one of the games in their senior year,'' he said. ``LeBron had left, and they still were a terrific team.''
Young had one concern: Would Weems and Jones consider Walsh and its 1,100-seat gym a step down from their high school days, where many home games were played at Akron's Rhodes Arena?
``But as I got to know them, they are great guys,'' said Young. ``Both were excellent students in high school, and they have about a 3.5 GPA with us. These guys just get it.''
The NAIA level is much like NCAA Division II. Some would consider it small-time. But the games feature very athletic players, the pace is usually quick, the skill level high. The guard play is often top flight. The difference is the lack of big men.
``This is good basketball,'' said Jones. ``It's really pure basketball. You don't do it for the publicity. You do it because you love it.''
Dambrot insists Weems and Jones could play at the Division I level. He invited Weems to be a walk-on at Akron, but that would have put him behind Joyce once again. He backed up Joyce for three years at St. V-M.
``Corey and I decided we were going to go to the same school together,'' said Weems.
In the past two years, Walsh and Akron have a combined record of 87-28, a .763 winning percentage. Both are in first place in their conferences this season.
``We are used to winning,'' said Joyce. ``We all played well with LeBron because that's what we were about -- winning games.''
And nothing has changed.
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Rumblings from the Dispatch.....

The recent news of Larry Hughes being out for the season only increases the chance of the Cavaliers making a deal before the trade deadline Thursday, although the team’s 3½-game lead over Indiana for the coveted fourth playoff spot (and homecourt advantage) has taken it out of the desperation mode.
Cleveland was initially in the market for a starting point guard, but now that pursuit has been widened to possibly getting a shooting guard to fill in for the rest of the season. Drew Gooden is still the team’s tradable commodity — he will be a restricted free agent at the end of the season — and his name is making the rounds in various trade rumors. New York Knicks president Isiah Thomas is one of those who reportedly talked to the Cavs about him. New York nearly acquired Gooden last year for Kurt Thomas before the Cavs pulled out of the deal at the last minute.
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There is no point for the Cavs to make a deal for a SG because their main need is still PG. If they can trade for a good PG they can move Jones to the backup SG. When Hughes gets healthy he will start and Pavlovic will move to be backup SF. I don't know who the Knicks have that would be worth a Gooden trade, but they better find a way to work Snow into that deal. IIRC Nate Robinson would one player they should get.

This linup would be fine with me if the Cavs move Gooden:

PG: Snow, Duhon/Gordon, Wilks
SG: Hughes(Pavlovic), Jones, Graham
SF: James, Pavlovic, Jackson
PF: Marshall, Fortson, Varejao
C: Z, Varejao
 
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StadiumDorm said:
The Cavs can't get rid of either Snow or Jones, because no one is going to want to take on their contracts. On second thought, give Isiah a call.
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If the Cavs are looking at trading Gooden to the Knicks, I bet they could get them to take Snow too. Larry Brown likes Snow, and they could use a leader like him in the locker room. I wouldn't want the Cavs to get rid of Snow and Jones. Jones is also a good locker room guy and can shoot so I wouldn't want the Cavs to get rid of him. Pretty much the Knicks whole roster is made up of overpriced talent so I don't know who they would give the Cavs back. Between Snow and Gooden's contracts the Cavs would have to take back a player with a hefty price tag to make a trade work.
 
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exhawg said:
If the Cavs are looking at trading Gooden to the Knicks, I bet they could get them to take Snow too. Larry Brown likes Snow, and they could use a leader like him in the locker room. I wouldn't want the Cavs to get rid of Snow and Jones. Jones is also a good locker room guy and can shoot so I wouldn't want the Cavs to get rid of him. Pretty much the Knicks whole roster is made up of overpriced talent so I don't know who they would give the Cavs back. Between Snow and Gooden's contracts the Cavs would have to take back a player with a hefty price tag to make a trade work.
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I agree, dont forget Snow played from Brown in Philly. Who would we get back from the Knicks though? I know my NBA, and I can only name a few players on the Knicks, and none of them would suit our needs, they sure as hell wouldnt trade Marbury...
 
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One rumor I saw was Gooden to the Knicks for either Crawford or Q. Richardson. From the New York media so you know how reliable that is. But the salaries don't match up so you can see Snow getting involved somehow! :biggrin:

But the more I think of it, the more I don't want to trade Drew. He is a good rebounder when he wants to and has a good inside offense game that compliments Z. Andy is the perfect bench player as he can play C along with PF and sprinkle in Marshall for outside shooting.
 
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