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Too bad the Bulls couldn't win last night--as fragile as a lot of those Heat players are, they probably would've crumbled and gotten swept. No big deal for Chicago, as it stands--as long as they take one of two in Miami, they're right back in the driver's seat.
 
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WolverineMike;1926053; said:
open mouth, insert foot, Boozer
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Eh, I wouldn't get too excited about that. What Boozer said was pretty much borne out over the course of the season. And Boozer arguably outplayed Bosh last night (I think I'd take 26 and 17 over 34 and 5), and although Bosh played well in Game 1, it was in a losing effort. Bosh might as well not have arrived at the arena in Game 2. The Bulls are at a crossroads now, that's for sure--if they lose again tomorrow, this series is over; then again, if they win tomorrow, they're right back in the driver's seat. However, I'm not buying the thinking that this is somehow Boozer's fault.
 
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WolverineMike;1926140; said:
IMO, credit for the last two games is going to Haslem. He's really negated the Bulls domination on the boards.
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Actually, it goes to Lebron. It always should go to Lebron. I hate the motherfucker, but he's the best damn player in the league and the Heat are sitting at home watching the playoffs on television without him.

Lebron doesn't need those scrubs. He never did. His fear of failure, not his desire to succeed, drove him to this... and now he won't get the credit he deserves. Its a little ironic.
 
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WolverineMike;1926140; said:
it's the classic example of being an idiot and calling out another player and then watching him go off on your team. One of these days, people will realize it's better to not take the barbs at the other team or their players.
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agreed.

mike hart after '07 win over msu: "sometimes it's just like when you're playing your little brother in basketball. You let him get a lead and let him get excited, but then you take it back from him."

'08 - msu 35 um 21
'09 - msu 26 um 20
'10 - msu 34 um 17
 
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the shame of it all is that success is now defined by rings because of Jordan. Before him, nobody used that as a measuring stick. You got guys like Jerry West, who is The Logo of the NBA, and one of the all time greats, who went to like 8 NBA Finals before winning one, and he's beloved and considered great and is called "Mr Clutch." Can you imagine the public perception of a guy in this day and age who would have lost 8 Finals?
 
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OSU_Buckguy;1926149; said:
agreed.

mike hart after '07 win over msu: "sometimes it's just like when you're playing your little brother in basketball. You let him get a lead and let him get excited, but then you take it back from him."

'08 - msu 35 um 21
'09 - msu 26 um 20
'10 - msu 34 um 17
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no argument here. Although RR may have had something to do with this as well.
 
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WolverineMike;1926158; said:
the shame of it all is that success is now defined by rings because of Jordan. Before him, nobody used that as a measuring stick. You got guys like Jerry West, who is The Logo of the NBA, and one of the all time greats, who went to like 8 NBA Finals before winning one, and he's beloved and considered great and is called "Mr Clutch." Can you imagine the public perception of a guy in this day and age who would have lost 8 Finals?
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Success in sports has always been defined by championships.
 
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ImFrigginFly;1926179; said:
Success in sports has always been defined by championships.
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Not true. Otherwise, Bill Russell would be considered the greatest basketball player of all time; instead, most rankings have him below Wilt Chamberlain. The amount of rings is important, but it will be diminished by the perceived level of help needed to accomplish it.

No matter how many rings Lebron wins with the Heat, he will not be seen in the same light as those that did it with their original teams built from the ground up. He will always be looked at as a great player that needed to change his scenery to win a title. He'll always be looked at below Jordan.
 
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And the thing about it is that Lebron's legacy is practically written already. There's no more drama to this post-season or any post-season for the foreseeable future. The Heat will win multiple titles, and unless Lebron does it without Wade, his legacy will be negatively affected by that.

Not to mention that Wade will always have more titles than Lebron. The best thing that could happen to LBJ would be DWade getting hurt. I still think the Heat would be the class of a league that's going to be diluted in terms of talent.
 
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buckeyesin07;1926136; said:
Eh, I wouldn't get too excited about that. What Boozer said was pretty much borne out over the course of the season. And Boozer arguably outplayed Bosh last night (I think I'd take 26 and 17 over 34 and 5), and although Bosh played well in Game 1, it was in a losing effort. Bosh might as well not have arrived at the arena in Game 2. The Bulls are at a crossroads now, that's for sure--if they lose again tomorrow, this series is over; then again, if they win tomorrow, they're right back in the driver's seat. However, I'm not buying the thinking that this is somehow Boozer's fault.
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Bosh hit a million 17-19 foot jumpers as well. He was just on fire. He only took it to Boozer in the post twice all game. I'm sure Boozer will continue to dare Bosh to shoot 19 footers and hope lightning doesn't strike twice.
 
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