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Buckeyes in 2005

Discussion in 'Buckeye Football' started by bukIpower, Dec 15, 2004.

  1. bukIpower

    bukIpower Senior

    According to Bucknuts someone on ESPN has them ranked as such:

    10. Oklahoma
    9. Iowa
    8. Texas A&M
    7. Tennessee
    6. Texas
    5. M**higan
    4. LSU
    3. Florida
    1. USC

    I'm more than thrilled to be that high, but should we be? I think maybe 10-12 would be very good for us, but number 2??? I know we'll definatly have the most coming back in the big ten and maybe in the country but we're unproven. I think if we beat Texas in our second week then we should be #2 what do you guys think? by the way I'll be at that night game for the Texas game.
  2. BB73

    BB73 Loves Buckeye History Staff Member Bookie '16 & '17 Upset Contest Winner

    I think we'll be in the top 5 for sure. I'm surprised to see LSU and Florida that high. Gee, why did Urban Meyer pick Florida over ND again?

    I don't believe that Texas A&M will be ahead of Oklahoma in the major preseason polls.

    Too much of the preseason polling is based on looking at the schedules and guessing who'll go undefeated or only lose one game. It's somewhat of a self-fulfilling prophecy.
  3. martinss01

    martinss01 blissfully stupid

    look at our team. its hard to not put us at #2. for us to not make a run at a national championship would require a serious let down by the staff, players, or both. i can't imagine expectations not being high next year. but then, when is that not the case with tOSU football :wink:.
  4. AKAK

    AKAK Well, that's like hypnotizing chickens. Staff Member Tech Admin

    Too high... the Running game is still too big of a question mark at this point.
  5. heisman

    heisman World Renowned scUM Hater Staff Member Tech Admin

    The running game and kicking game questions place us somewhere between 8-12 IMO.
  6. DA-Bucks

    DA-Bucks Trick shot artist Former FF The Deuce Champ

    I can easily see why we'll be ranked that high. Just think about our defense next year. I think it might be as dominating as 2002! Our D-line has shown great improvement this year and will be above average next year, our LBs will be the best in the nation, Youbouty is a lock down corner, Ginn/Underwood/Welch, will secure the 2nd CB spot and Nickel coverages, and our safeties, Salley/Whitner/Everett etc will complete one of the best backfields in the country. I fully expect our defense to be the best in the country.

    Now, if this offensive scheme and execution continue to grow with Troy Smith, then we might see one of our best Buckeye teams ever. Maybe, I'm just too optomistic after seeing our win against UM, but I don't think that was a fluke. All we did was finally execute along the offensive line (best they've played since the 2003 Fiesta Bowl). Add Boone into the depth chart, KirK Barton, Mangold, Mitchum, Person, etc - I think we'll have a great O-line.
    Pittman proves to be at least a serviceable back and may be a very good one. I can't wait to see Eric Haw get a shot at playing... looking back at his HS videos is inspiring.
    Our weakness on Offense will be TE, maybe Hoobler will drastically improve, I also won't be surprised to see Roy Hall get some PT at TE, as a Irizzary style TE.
    This WR group might be the most explosive since the Terry Glenn, Joey Galloway days. We have so much talent at WR it's sickening. Holmes, Ginn, Gonzalez, Dukes, Hall, Lyons.... So much speed, so much talent....

    I don't see any reason why we shouldn't have a great offense and the nations best defense. I'm stoked for next year!
  7. AKAK

    AKAK Well, that's like hypnotizing chickens. Staff Member Tech Admin

    Noboby ever sees a reason that you shouldn't. But realistically... We don't have enough evidence that we will be balanced enough on Offense.... we didn't exactly run all over Michigan at will... I really don't want to be in a close game... which you know there will be.. and have to run QB draws to pick up first downs. All the big paly ability in the world is nice... but in the Big Ten we have to be able to hit people in the mouth too.

    Also... to Say Pittman is serviceable... I think is maybe not a good description... that impies that he is somehow just good enough to get the jobe done... I think he's probably better than that, and actually quite explosive... but he's also injury prone... okay, maybe not 'prone' but he was dinged most of the year... so that leaves us with Pittman (pros and cons) and a kid (Haw) who has never taken a snap.
  8. DA-Bucks

    DA-Bucks Trick shot artist Former FF The Deuce Champ

    The reason why I said "at least a serviceable back and may be a very good one" is because he wasn't a full time back and isn't proven. In the time that he did play he showed great vision and ability, but I agree he is susceptable to being dinged up. The running back posisition is potentially a weakness, but I cannot see how it can be worse than this year. I think our running game drastically improves because our offensive line should be much more solid - with added depth.

    All season long I've said the O-line is the biggest cause of our horrendous offense. The played tremendous against Michigan, who is known to have some good LBs and D-lineman. We return all our starters and add in Mitchum, Boone, and the other solid recruits I think we'll be in great posisition to win in the trenches. We'll have the Tressel buzzwrord - Velocity.

    Maybe things won't pan out as I expect/hope and our offense will again be anemic. On the other hand, I just see so much potential in next year's team.

    About Haw, yea he's unproven at the college level, but from all reports he looks solid. Btw, we should also have a damn good backup to Haw in Wells. :) Our biggest loss at RB this year is Brandon Joe - and outside of the UM game he didn't play a lot at RB. (Dinged up)
  9. jlb1705

    jlb1705 hipster doofus Bookie

    I'd have to say #2 is way too high. It would take an absolute domination of Oklahoma State to change my mind (to the tune of 55-0). I don't see that happening.

    I agree that there are too many questions in the running and kicking games. Also, who is going to step up at the other CB position besides Youboty? I think the #2 ranking is based on name and reputation alone. I'm extrememly proud that's the case, but I don't think it's deserved yet. I'd put them in the the 11-15 range.

    Like the 2002 team, we'll know alot more about this team after the second game of the season. If the Bucks roll through them like they did their first two games for '02, I'll be convinced, and yelling for a top two ranking as loud as anyone.
  10. Brutus1

    Brutus1 Don't be penurious, donate to the BP Spring Dr.

    That seems high to me, just based on an impressive game against scUM. I'd be very happy with anything in the top 12. We may rise a little higher in some eyes if we have another impressive performance against the Cowboys, even though it'll be a tough game.

    Hopefully, what we lose in the kicking game will be more than made up by having TGII on both return teams for the whole season.

    I'm assuming our o-line will be better next year and that the coaches will plan the offense around T Smiths' ability to move around the pocket. I'm also assuming that some of the young lineman will grab the bull by the horns and take a spot or at least see plenty of time. Aside from Rehring, i'm hoping someone among Mitchum, Person and Boone come in and kick some tail in practice.

    RB is always a worry, but improved play calling, o-line play and new blood should help (Pitt, Haw, Wells).
  11. BuckeyeNation27

    BuckeyeNation27 Goal Goal USA! Staff Member

    that someone from ESPN was collin cowherd. i heard it was done tounge in cheek.
  12. AKAK

    AKAK Well, that's like hypnotizing chickens. Staff Member Tech Admin

    The probelme is that when you are #2.. you're talking about... "we do have" at positions... not we should.

    To be honest... I'd put us at about 7 or 8.... we've got at least one guy at every position on D that is at least pretty good (As long as EJ gets his head on straight to play CB.)...

    WR- Stacked...

    QB- If I knew he could play every week like he did against scUM... then I'm not worried at all...

    TE- I'd worry more if we actually used this position...'

    OL- Last season we went from Night to Dawn... If we get to DAY... Hoorah... (John Peterson... ignore Bollman, and coach em up.)

    RB- We're back to that are we?
  13. MililaniBuckeye

    MililaniBuckeye The satanic soulless freight train that is Ohio St Staff Member Tech Admin

    If we beat Ok State fairly impressively (10+ points), then I can see us being ranked in the top 10. You'll have the usual suspects ahead of us (USC, Oklahoma, Auburn, LSU, Michigan, Georgia) and a couple others, but around #10 for pre-season would be right if we win the Alamo Bowl.
  14. korchiki

    korchiki Junior

    do u guys really think that boone will start this year...i kno that it is exciting getting an oline guy this good...but starting as a frosh...hes not going to do anything for us until at least his sophmore year unless someone gets hurt...blocking in hs is a lot different than blocking Big 10 guys
  15. BuckeyeNation27

    BuckeyeNation27 Goal Goal USA! Staff Member

    did you see our OLine this year? I could start for them.

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