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Good riddance to Woodsen. Don't get too excited to have him. I know you've
had secondary problems in the past and that won't change with Woodsen. He's been one of the most overrated players in the NFL. He get's hurt alot, and when he isn't hurt, he's getting burnt, missing tackles or not getting interceptions.

Just a friendly warning to not get too excited about the pickup, especaiily for what he'll count against the cap.

Now, just pick Ferguson in the draft and let Hawk fall to the Raiders.
 
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Brutus1 said:
Good riddance to Woodsen. Don't get too excited to have him. I know you've
had secondary problems in the past and that won't change with Woodsen. He's been one of the most overrated players in the NFL. He get's hurt alot, and when he isn't hurt, he's getting burnt, missing tackles or not getting interceptions.

Just a friendly warning to not get too excited about the pickup, especaiily for what he'll count against the cap.

Now, just pick Ferguson in the draft and let Hawk fall to the Raiders.
I'm not overly thrilled with him. I think we WAY over paid for him considering his track record of injuries. Assuming he can stay healthy he will be better than what we have had over the last few years. I still HATE the fact we passed on Chris Gamble for Ahmad Carroll.
 
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I'm not overly thrilled with him. I think we WAY over paid for him considering his track record of injuries. Assuming he can stay healthy he will be better than what we have had over the last few years. I still HATE the fact we passed on Chris Gamble for Ahmad Carroll.

Well, if a scUm'er with a Heisman has some mediocre years, but manages to win a Super Bowl MVP trophy, you'll all be happy once again. :tongue2:
 
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They need Hawk, a top OG (Jean-Gilles, I hope) and a good center prospect. Talk all you want about Woodson being overpaid and from Michigan, but he has a handful of Pro Bowls to his credit and, if healthy, has the experience and talent necessary to be a leader in that backfield. Another thing I keep hearing is that they need Hawk and another LB. For the record, I fully expect Ben Taylor to start, and I fully expect him to play well. The guy is young, reasonably athletic and he posted 110 tackles with Cleveland last year. He's more than serviceable. I'd like to see them grab another DT for depth, but I think Pickett and Corey Williams will do a fine job. There are several positions that I'm not peeing myself in excitement over (see WR, TE, S), but if this team stays healthy, they're more than capable of a 9-7 to 10-6 record and a playoff berth--maybe even another division crown.
 
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They need Hawk, a top OG (Jean-Gilles, I hope) and a good center prospect. Talk all you want about Woodson being overpaid and from Michigan, but he has a handful of Pro Bowls to his credit and, if healthy, has the experience and talent necessary to be a leader in that backfield. Another thing I keep hearing is that they need Hawk and another LB. For the record, I fully expect Ben Taylor to start, and I fully expect him to play well. The guy is young, reasonably athletic and he posted 110 tackles with Cleveland last year. He's more than serviceable. I'd like to see them grab another DT for depth, but I think Pickett and Corey Williams will do a fine job. There are several positions that I'm not peeing myself in excitement over (see WR, TE, S), but if this team stays healthy, they're more than capable of a 9-7 to 10-6 record and a playoff berth--maybe even another division crown.
Aside from being michigan and being over paid....he's just not that good. he used to be, but so did dan marino, would you take him now?
 
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vrbryant said:
They need Hawk, a top OG (Jean-Gilles, I hope) and a good center prospect. Talk all you want about Woodson being overpaid and from Michigan, but he has a handful of Pro Bowls to his credit and, if healthy, has the experience and talent necessary to be a leader in that backfield. Another thing I keep hearing is that they need Hawk and another LB. For the record, I fully expect Ben Taylor to start, and I fully expect him to play well. The guy is young, reasonably athletic and he posted 110 tackles with Cleveland last year. He's more than serviceable. I'd like to see them grab another DT for depth, but I think Pickett and Corey Williams will do a fine job. There are several positions that I'm not peeing myself in excitement over (see WR, TE, S), but if this team stays healthy, they're more than capable of a 9-7 to 10-6 record and a playoff berth--maybe even another division crown.
I'm not sold on Taylor... I think a veteran LB would help out *if* they get Hawk. Resigning Kampman was HUGE... I think he's very under-rated in most peoples eyes. Kampman, KGB, Pickett on the line looks good but they need a run stopper like big ol' Gilbert Brown used to be.
 
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I'm not sold on Taylor... I think a veteran LB would help out *if* they get Hawk. Resigning Kampman was HUGE... I think he's very under-rated in most peoples eyes. Kampman, KGB, Pickett on the line looks good but they need a run stopper like big ol' Gilbert Brown used to be.

You must not have watched a lot of Browns games last year. The guy is solid. If he's your third best backer, you're doing pretty well. Pickett is quite good against the run, and while it'd be nice to have a Ted Washington-esque body in there, I think the muscle there with the three guys behind them will be enough to keep teams wanting to throw. I don't know, maybe I'm being overly optimistic, but I see guys stepping up next year (Carroll, Ferguson, Taylor, possibly Woodson) that you maybe wouldn't/aren't expecting to do so.

By the way, I'm going to keep entertaining my personal fantasy (that Mangold drops to the Pack in round two and they scoop up Deuce Latui in round three), so I'd appreciate it if none of you burst my bubble.
 
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Questions still linger after Favre’s decision

Favre’s commitment sparks new questions for Packers

By TOM SILVERSTEIN
[email protected]

Posted: April 26, 2006

The fire still burns in Brett Favre's belly and for that reason he will play another season with the Green Bay Packers.

No one could say that definitively Wednesday, a day after Favre informed general manager Ted Thompson and head coach Mike McCarthy, who were both in a draft meeting when Favre called, that he was on board for the 2006 season. Favre made his commitment short and sweet to McCarthy over the telephone Tuesday morning.

"He just said, 'Mike, I'm in,' " McCarthy said.

According to both Thompson and McCarthy, Favre did not specify that this would be his last season with the Packers even though in at least one interview during the off-season he said if he came back it would only be for one more year.

During the conversations the two men had with Favre, they did not speak much about the future beyond 2006.

"We did not talk about that," Thompson said. "He said he was looking forward to playing. We just got past this point, I think we're OK for now. It took us long enough to get to where we are. I think we can address the other part another time."

The truth of the matter is that if Favre, 36, has some success this season there's no reason to believe he won't come back for another year. His trepidation with returning in 2006 was that the team would go through another miserable 4-12 season and he would play as poorly as he did a year ago.

Favre wanted Thompson to do a lot more to improve the team during the off-season, but ultimately his desire to play football and not Thompson's inactivity in free agency swayed him to return. Through the 113 days it took for Favre to make his decision, the Packers felt all along that his passion for the game would rule over all else.

"I always felt he was going to play," McCarthy said. "A lot of days I had my doubts, but I always thought it would come to this conclusion. I have no experience in this area, so I didn't know for sure. But I think he finally got to a level of comfort where he could say he was coming back."

Thompson wouldn't divulge much about his conversations with Favre regarding his return and wouldn't speculate on what it was that turned the tables in the Packers' favor. It was curious that Thompson allowed the Favre camp to let the cat out of the bag Tuesday night about his phone call to the Packers, but only in that it didn't do much to serve the team's fans.

Mostly, it was consistent with Thompson's approach with Favre. He has refused to buckle under to his demands to build the team through free agency and has downplayed the effect Favre's indecision has had with the team at every turn. He apparently felt it wasn't necessary to announce that one of his players was coming back to fulfill another year on his contract.

In some ways, Thompson appears to be drawing a line in the sand between the general manager and the players, something former coach and general manager Mike Sherman had difficulty doing. There has been speculation that Thompson and Favre don't see eye to eye and that Thompson would have preferred Favre retire.

That, according to the Packers, simply isn't true.

"In talking to fans, they kept saying that Ted and Mike didn't want him back," team president Bob Harlan said. "That's not true at all. They told him to his face that they wanted him back. There were telephone calls and a lot of them were initiated by Brett. I think Brett was just taking his time to make a decision and Ted was giving him that time.

"Brett was calling Ted and I don't think he would be calling if he thought he wasn't wanted."

Thompson said that despite Favre's strong comments that the Packers weren't doing enough this off-season to improve the team, he did not have a problem with the veteran quarterback. He said there was no reason for the two to discuss Favre's comments or Thompson's off-season plan when Favre comes to town for a minicamp next week.

"We don't have anything to patch up," Thompson said.

As a result of Favre committing to a 15th season as Packers quarterback, much of the uncertainty regarding next season has been removed. The Packers know who their quarterback will be and they don't have to use their No. 5 pick on one of the so-called Big Three - Southern Cal's Matt Leinart, Texas' Vince Young and Vanderbilt's Jay Cutler.

What's more, the players can now go into McCarthy's first minicamp as head coach of the Packers with some certainty about their offense.

"There's been so much change in what we're doing here there hasn't been much time to think about it," tackle Mark Tauscher said. "I don't know what it's been like for everyone, but it's not like we've been sitting around waiting for Brett to make a decision. In some respect, everyone feels better now that he's coming back. If he retired, it wouldn't have come as a huge shock. Everybody is pretty excited he's coming back."

Said running back Ahman Green, "We can mentally start preparing for the year from this step forward. We have the draft this weekend and minicamp after that. This right here, leading into that stuff, is big. We don't have to worry about it."

Favre has yet to speak publicly about his decision to return and probably won't hold a news conference until the team's minicamp May 5-7. From most accounts, he has kept himself in excellent physical condition and should be able to do whatever McCarthy needs him to during the three-day camp.

As for his comments regarding the team, players don't seem to be insulted that he felt there wasn't enough talent to compete next season.

"He's got the right to speak his mind," Tauscher said. "He's got the right to say what he's got to say. We're coming off a 4-12 season and from a personnel standpoint there hasn't been a big change. Obviously it's caused some concern on his part what we have done. But no one has felt he was taking it out on them."
 
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Favre: I'm Not Sure This Is My Last Season
By CHRIS JENKINS, AP Sports Writer

GREEN BAY, Wis. - Brett Favre is back. But for how long? Despite comments earlier in the offseason that there was "no doubt" the upcoming season would be his last, Favre said Saturday that he wasn't so sure.

"I know I said that," Favre said Saturday, in his first public comments since telling the Green Bay Packers he would return for another year. "But I hope you guys will respect me. I'm going to play this year, give it my best and not talk about it. And I'm sure that it will come up from somewhere else at some point, but it's been a distraction not only for me but for I think the guys I played with in the past, and I'm not going to talk about it this year."

In a half-hour session with reporters, Favre reiterated several times that he never considered asking to be traded to another team in the offseason.

"I know there was a lot of talk about being traded or wanting to play for another team," Favre said. "That never, I've told you guys that over and over again that I didn't want to play for another team, and that's the truth. And never once did I mention (a) trade. This is where I wanted to be the whole time."

Favre said he came back intending to win, but if the Packers can't go to the Super Bowl, he hopes to at least have fun.

"I know there's the risk of being 4-12 again," Favre said. "As with any season, there's optimism. I'm well aware that we lost five games by just a few points (last year)."
 
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Man, I can't imagine how Aaron Rodgers is taking this news. Ever since the NFL Draft, it's been a pretty frustrating experience for the guy.

I'm hoping that Rodgers is taking this as more of an opportunity to learn from Brett. He wasn't ready to play this year. One or two more years under Favre along with more playing time in pre-season and hopefully some mop-up duty in regular season games will be valuable.
 
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