BP Poker Buffs Question

[Flocka]

Haven't ridden a bike in about 15 years either... I suppose I Could still do it.

Congratulations. lol

 

[PrincessPeach]

I settled for third because I thought you two were going to jello wrestle.... Unless it was Timbuck2 who came in 3rd, in which case, I settled for 4th for the same reason, having already convinced Timbuck2 to do the same...

I believe it was TimBuck2, and... well... he did lose his shirt. Maybe he was prepared for jello wrestling.

So... any interest in BP Poker Tournament Part Deux?

 

[Flocka]

I'm in.

 

[Thump]

[FONT=Verdana,Arial,Helvetica][FONT=Verdana,Arial,Helvetica]This past Sunday I went to Bellefontaine for their fundraiser to the Football boosters and ponied up the 50 bucks to enter the first real tourney of my life. Aside from playing $10 6 or 7 man sit and go's with friends, and play money online this was the first real experience for me. Must say I was glad with how i performed, despite missing the money by 3 spots, and missed getting a free roll to next months tourney by 2 spots, I finished 13th out of a field of 87 people. [/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana,Arial,Helvetica]I maintained a pretty good chip count throughout however, (was chip lead for at least 1/3 maybe clost to half the tourney). Didn't really play any bad hands save for a few, just caught a couple bad beats. [/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana,Arial,Helvetica]Final hand i played I was under the gun with the blinds at 1,00 and 2,000. I had about 2500, or 3500 in chips. I looked down to see K,J off suit. With the blinds coming to me next and basically putting me all-in, I decided to make my stand, I pushed all in to be called by K,Q off. Neither of us improved and he outkicked me. [/FONT]


[FONT=Verdana,Arial,Helvetica]How did everyone else do in their first goes in tourneys?[/FONT][/FONT]

Finished 7th in my first tourney out of about 60 people.

 

[matz2]

Final hand i played I was under the gun with the blinds at 1,00 and 2,000. I had about 2500, or 3500 in chips.

No offense, but you should have never let yourself get in the position of having only 2.5-3.5 times the BB (unless you just lost alot of money on the previous hand). Once your stack gets to about 12-15 times the BB, you MUST make a move.

 

[MightbeaBuck]

No offense, but you should have never let yourself get in the position of having only 2.5-3.5 times the BB (unless you just lost alot of money on the previous hand). Once your stack gets to about 12-15 times the BB, you MUST make a move.

He did. Right after that hand, he got up and left.

Being pot committed is an emotion, not a strategy. For example, you are delt jack-queen suited, and bet about six times the big blind. Someone after you comes over the top, going in for more than double your bet (and about half your chips) Unless you really believe he's bluffing, the logical thing to do is fold - because he has a killer hand. But you sit there thinking about AALLLLL that money you just put in the pot, and feel as though you should chase, just to justify your previous bet.

Or another example would be to have the best hand, say a jack high flush, throughout the flop and turn. Then on the river the fourth card to the board flush comes up, and suddenly your jack high flush has an excellent chance of being stomped by the A, K, or Q. Your opponent only bets a small amount. I would believe he is trying to get the last bit of money out of me he can. And after all, I've already put lots of money in, what would it hurt to throw in another twenty or so? That's pot committed.

Remember, never be pot committed. No matter how much you have in, and no matter how small the bet!

 

[BuckNutJoeHall]

Matz, I know, but I am not going to make a move with something questionable. For the final hour or hour and a half till I left I got nothing. I did get pocket Jacks at the final two tables but there was an all in before me from another short stack, so I folded. Aside from that and the K,J off the deck went cold on me for about the final 2 hours or so.

 

[matz2]

Matz, I know, but I am not going to make a move with something questionable.

Sometimes you have to, even if it is risking your tournament on something as weak as 67 offsuit. In all seriousness, I would rather risk the chance of going broke with 67 offsuit than something like KJ or A10 - less chance of being dominated, like what happened in your situation. Unless you are up against a pocket pair bigger than 55, you aren't in that bad of shape. Congrats on the finish though. Once you play more, you'll pick up new things that aren't mentioned in books.

 

[keeponrisin]

I don't mind live tournaments, but I almost prefer to play with average to good players. I try to keep in mind whats out there, but with a lot of beginners you can't put them calling a larger bet with a crap hand. I prefer online more than anything due to the pace and no chips, etc. In my home games there is always the drunk shuffler. I've won some decent cash online for small buy-ins, so I play frequently.

 

[Piney]

My first real live tourney in a casino was a $35 10 person satellite to a $350 tournament the next day. Me and my buddy went to Seneca Allegany for the night and I won the satellite as we finished up at 2am so we had to stay til the next day for the noon start. Only problem is the hotels were sold out and since I couldn't fall asleep I just played cards all night long.

So in a 350 person tournament I finished 38th with 30 places paid. That happened two years ago and don't remember much as I had ZERO sleep that night and I drank about 10 Red Bulls to even stay awake. I just remember doing well until the antes kicked in and at the same time went card dead (or just too tired) and lost most of my stack when my AQ went against an AK.

But I play alot more online. Just this past Sunday I finished in the money at the Full Tilt 400k Guaranteed tournament. Finished 319th out of 2,400+. Now that hand I busted was messed up. 4 people ended up being all-in. The hands? AK v AK v AK v AQ of course 4 spades pop up and the chip leader at our table had the A of spades.

 

[Piney]

Matz, I know, but I am not going to make a move with something questionable. For the final hour or hour and a half till I left I got nothing. I did get pocket Jacks at the final two tables but there was an all in before me from another short stack, so I folded. Aside from that and the K,J off the deck went cold on me for about the final 2 hours or so.

First off congrats on doing well your first time out. Always a great experience on your first time out. But some advice... you don't fold pocket jacks when another short stack goes all-in before you. Only 3 hands beat you and I can bet he had Ace/Rag or AK meaning you have a coin flip to double up and get off life support.

But one thing you have to learn is you don't need cards to go all-in. You just need to have the right amount of chips (8-10x the BB) and position. Also learn the starting hands that are 50%+ favorites over any random hand. While Matz2's 67 offsuit isn't a 50%+ favorite a 910 offsuit is.

 

[BuckNutJoeHall]

My reasoning in not calling with the jacks was that wqe had been at the same table before we re-drew for the final 18. He was as tight as I was, so him pushing, meant IMO he had something better than Jacks. However, I kept kicking myself for not making my stand with the jacks. Hindsight is 20/20. I will be out at a Reece's tourney in Dayton this weekend, may hit some cash games too who knows.

 

[matz2]

Ouch, I didn't realize that you folded JJ preflop. You should have made your stand with that hand (no matter how tight of an opponent you are playing). If you had position and more chips, you would be able to lay down that hand if there were two raises ahead of you...or if you have a good read on your opponent. If that was the case (and you had the chips), you could always just call with position and see the flop.

Piney - I realize that 67o is not a 50% winner against a random hand. I was just trying to convey the risk of domination with a hand like KJ.