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Buckeyeskickbuttocks;718637; said:
I have made the final table where I have only had maybe 5 playable hands. (Didn't play stupid). DOn't worry about bad beats at all. Nothing I can do about it. There is no way you have control over #3 above unless you're the dealer, and a cheater.
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Yea, it depends on how many people enter the tournament. If you play a tournament with over 100 people you will need to get cards. It also depends on how quickly the blinds go up. If the blinds go up slowly you do not need to play as many hands. But if the blinds go up every 20 or 30 minutes, you will need to play hands.
 
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bigballin2987;718650; said:
Yea, it depends on how many people enter the tournament. If you play a tournament with over 100 people you will need to get cards. It also depends on how quickly the blinds go up. If the blinds go up slowly you do not need to play as many hands. But if the blinds go up every 20 or 30 minutes, you will need to play hands.
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That's true. Biggest I've played in was.... something like 30 or 40 players. No question you need to get some cards, but when you don't get em, you need to be real careful about who you try to bluff. Gotta play position too.

Oh, and here's something else... one is NEVER "pot committed" I don't know how many games I've continued playing because I ignored some fools absurd notion that I was "pot committed" If you're beat, it's called cutting your losses. Don't chase a loss with the rest of your chipstack.
 
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Buckeyeskickbuttocks;718653; said:
That's true. Biggest I've played in was.... something like 30 or 40 players. No question you need to get some cards, but when you don't get em, you need to be real careful about who you try to bluff. Gotta play position.
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Got ya. I'm only 19 AND I live in Florida so I have a select few casinos I can play at for both reasons. Their tournaments field at the least 120 people so it is different. The blinds go up rather quickly as well. There have been times that I have played perfectly, (Playing in position and playing pot odds/implied odds) and have been out in less than 2 hours. If you do not get hands at the right times, it is very difficult to do well in a large field.
 
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bigballin2987;718660; said:
Got ya. I'm only 19 AND I live in Florida so I have a select few casinos I can play at for both reasons. Their tournaments field at the least 120 people so it is different. The blinds go up rather quickly as well. There have been times that I have played perfectly, (Playing in position and playing pot odds/implied odds) and have been out in less than 2 hours. If you do not get hands at the right times, it is very difficult to do well in a large field.
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Well, I think even 30 year pros would admit that you need some element of luck. I mean, you can't get by on skill when you simply don't get any cards. Sooner or later, someone's gonna call your BS, and when you get called out a number of times, never have it.. they don't fear you.. and, if you never GET the damn cards, you can't use that to your advantage....
But I would love to be in the position to have the rep of "never having it" and then get some big payout when I got the nuts.
 
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Buckeyeskickbuttocks;718653; said:
That's true. Biggest I've played in was.... something like 30 or 40 players. No question you need to get some cards, but when you don't get em, you need to be real careful about who you try to bluff. Gotta play position too.

Oh, and here's something else... one is NEVER "pot committed" I don't know how many games I've continued playing because I ignored some fools absurd notion that I was "pot committed" If you're beat, it's called cutting your losses. Don't chase a loss with the rest of your chipstack.
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As far as pot commitment goes, it does make sense sometimes. It is not about calling a big bet with Ace high or a missed bluff. It does make sense in some situations. For instance, say you put in a big bluff or reraise preflop on someone. And they come over top again for not much, you have so much money invested in the pot, you should call.
 
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Buckeyeskickbuttocks;718663; said:
Well, I think even 30 year pros would admit that you need some element of luck. I mean, you can't get by on skill when you simply don't get any cards. Sooner or later, someone's gonna call your BS, and when you get called out a number of times, never have it.. they don't fear you.. and, if you never GET the damn cards, you can't use that to your advantage....
But I would love to be in the position to have the rep of "never having it" and then get some big payout when I got the nuts.
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Ya, it is not only about getting good cards preflop, it is getting good hands. I think what it boils down to is this. If you are playing in a large field tournament, numerous things must fall in place for you to do well as opposed to a cash game where if you play good poker, you will do fine. You can fold all day long in a cash game and wait for a big hands because the blinds never raise. The same goes for a sit and go. I have not even played a hand in a sit and go and made the money. In large field tournaments, you definetly need a mixture of good play, and luck, (not too many bad beats, win your races i.e. AK vs. smaller pocker pair, and get hands at the right times.)
 
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bigballin2987;718664; said:
As far as pot commitment goes, it does make sense sometimes. It is not about calling a big bet with Ace high or a missed bluff. It does make sense in some situations. For instance, say you put in a big bluff or reraise preflop on someone. And they come over top again for not much, you have so much money invested in the pot, you should call.
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Depends on the player. Your pot odds on this guys "not much money" raise works against you.... the money in the pot is mostly yours. On the other hand, if you think you can buy this guys mini raise off, that's playing cads, not going out on the idea of "pot committed."

I don't know... in my mind, "Pot committed" means "I've lost, but what the fuck." Pot Odds... on the other hand... is something else.
 
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Buckeyeskickbuttocks;718676; said:
Depends on the player. Your pot odds on this guys "not much money" raise works against you.... the money in the pot is mostly yours. On the other hand, if you think you can buy this guys mini raise off, that's playing cads, not going out on the idea of "pot committed."

I don't know... in my mind, "Pot committed" means "I've lost, but what the fuck." Pot Odds... on the other hand... is something else.
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Yea pot odds refer to needing to hit your hand. Just calling because there is enough money in the pot. People definetly take pot commitment too far on numerous occasions. But I have called due to pot cimmitment sometimes, and have caught players bluffing. That is one of the main reasons for calling if your pot committed. You have already put so many chips into the pot, you mine as well put more chips in because you could come for behind, or sometimes you might be ahead.
 
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bigballin2987;718689; said:
Yea pot odds refer to needing to hit your hand. Just calling because there is enough money in the pot. People definetly take pot commitment too far on numerous occasions. But I have called due to pot cimmitment sometimes, and have caught players bluffing. That is one of the main reasons for calling if your pot committed. You have already put so many chips into the pot, you mine as well put more chips in because you could come for behind, or sometimes you might be ahead.
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Yeah, that's a good point. But, again, I see that more as "playing cards" than anything else. Quibbling over meanings, I guess. No biggie. My point is basically just that if you think you're beat, no matter what you've already spent, lay down and play the next hand.

Hard to come up with principles of playing, of course... many situations call for different decisions which may go against your "rule of thumb" most the time.
 
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Buckeyeskickbuttocks;718693; said:
Yeah, that's a good point. But, again, I see that more as "playing cards" than anything else. Quibbling over meanings, I guess. No biggie. My point is basically just that if you think you're beat, no matter what you've already spent, lay down and play the next hand.

Hard to come up with principles of playing, of course... many situations call for different decisions which may go against your "rule of thumb" most the time.
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I agree, most everything in tournaments, and poker itself, depends on the situation. Good talk though, we should the poker forums going more often.
 
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Buckeyeskickbuttocks;718705; said:
Back at ya. It's actually been too long since I've played last..... may have to rustle up a game... :biggrin:
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That is one good thing with poker. You can always improve, but unless you don't play for years, you pretty much retain all the skill you had the last time you played, and perhaps more.
 
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