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BuckeyeBill73 said:
It's pretty sad. They'd much rather show T.O. doing a stupid TD celebration or yapping at McNabb or Ray Lewis than analyze whether or not bracket coverage on T.O. will slow Philly's offense.
Exactly! You know something is messed up when the highlights of the steelers-eagles game has more video footage of TO yapping at McNabb and then TO's post game response than actual game footage. Who cares? What do they think, I'm some kind of bitch that's more concerned about TO and McNabb's "relationship" or TO and Ray Lewis' "relationship" than the game? ... another example of ESPN's pushing retarded stories that your girlfriend is more interested in than you are.

How's this one ... anyone watch the browns-ravens game on sunday night? Remember missing not one, but TWO snaps to go to footage of Deion's gottdamn pinky toe/Deion hoping down the hallway. Was that an issue? Is the BROWNS #3 slot reciever that big of a threat that deion-the-nickel-back leaving made any difference? Fuck ESPN. They're slowly but surely ... in impercievable tiny steps ... trying to turn us all into a bunch of bitches.
 
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Why is ESPN to blame for this? This is their job. If this was Notre Dame or Tennessee or Miami, we would all be loving it, but it's not. They have statements from several ex-buckeyes to the effect that they received inappropriate benefits while playing for Ohio State. They are journalists and have an obligation (in their eyes) to report this. It's not as if they are creating quotes from MoC and Marco Cooper etc... These are acusations from individuals that were much closer to the program than anyone on this board. This is serious stuff regardless of whether or not it is based in fact or if it is the act of a few players looking to make a name for themselves at the expense of Ohio State.
 
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I fully support the boycott. It should be extended to the advertisers. Don't buy Miller beer. Its a good place to start because it sucks anyway.
By all means if there's a game on espn that you want to see, go ahead and watch it. Take note of who advertises there and stop buying their products.
 
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CharlotteBuck-I said:
Why is ESPN to blame for this? This is their job. If this was Notre Dame or Tennessee or Miami, we would all be loving it, but it's not. They have statements from several ex-buckeyes to the effect that they received inappropriate benefits while playing for Ohio State. They are journalists and have an obligation (in their eyes) to report this. It's not as if they are creating quotes from MoC and Marco Cooper etc... These are acusations from individuals that were much closer to the program than anyone on this board. This is serious stuff regardless of whether or not it is based in fact or if it is the act of a few players looking to make a name for themselves at the expense of Ohio State.
first of all...i wouldnt love it if it were notre dame or tennessee, so dont put words in my mouth :p

second, ESPN as a major news outlet has an obligation to report facts. when the rest of the media world is calling bullshit on this story based on the shitty sources, they get some of the blame. they couldnt even find 1 credible source to back this bullshit up. im surprised irizarry hasnt come forward.
 
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CharlotteBuck-I said:
Nation, so are you conceding that you would enjoy this if it were about Miami?
cant put anything by you :biggrin:



in all seriousness, no. i would use it to gloat to their idiot fans on their message boards, but its a serious problem that needs to be addressed and i dont take pleasure in anything like that. i take more pleasure in beating a team at the height of it's glory for a NC.
 
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Can a boycott make a difference?

Would any of us really be upset if this was responsible journalism? If they gave OSU a chance to know the charges that would be levelled before asking for an on-camera rebuttal? This is journalism at its worst.

Of course, it's a formula! Clarett didn't twist anyone's arm at ESPN and some small time reporter isn't responsible. This was a decision of editorial management. Management bought in because they thought this would boost their bottom-line.

And they have moved away from pure sports to trash sports. I'm sick of paying for hours of trash sport (which costs them nothing to show) to see something worthwhile.

What effect would a boycott have? Especially if you could only motivate a percentage of Buckeyes to support you?

Advertisers buy two things: audiences and conducive media environments. Do the Buckeye faithful have the necessary consumer power to motivate the Buckeye faithful to hit the bottom line at ESPN?

You may think we have little power but hit ESPN's numbers just half a percent this time of year and its big-time revenue that slips off their sales line.

Lost magazine subscriptions hurt sales and ad revenues because the price of ads must go down due to declining circulation.

Fewer visits to espn.com also mean fewer advertising dollars.

Of course, the real hit is TV ad revenue from declining audiences. You don't have to miss OSU, just choose to watch other things that aren't essentials.

If you decide to do this, then you should write and tell them that you are and why you are. You also should write the leading ad agencies so that they know and can advise their clients. This lets them know that ESPN is no longer a conducive media environment for hitting one of the largest identity groups in America.

Just a 1000 letters would have a tremendous effect. Don't fool yourself, ask anyone managing a large brand in the US. You don't want this kind of viral marketing response to you. They will respond.

The poll on their website shows that they already know what a bad decision it was to print this rubbish. They want to monitor directly what the Buckeye Nation is saying and also give people a place to sound off so that they won't sound off elsewhere.

So, the choice is really to each of us to decide how to communicate true intent to ESPN. Personally, I have stopped visiting their website and will not watch them on TV except for essential things (OSU!).

CharlotteBuck-I said:
Why is ESPN to blame for this? This is their job. If this was Notre Dame or Tennessee or Miami, we would all be loving it, but it's not. They have statements from several ex-buckeyes to the effect that they received inappropriate benefits while playing for Ohio State. They are journalists and have an obligation (in their eyes) to report this. It's not as if they are creating quotes from MoC and Marco Cooper etc... These are acusations from individuals that were much closer to the program than anyone on this board. This is serious stuff regardless of whether or not it is based in fact or if it is the act of a few players looking to make a name for themselves at the expense of Ohio State.
ESPN would only be to blame if:

(a) almost every bit of this had been alleged previously by Clarett and investigated by OSU and the NCAA with the conclusion that it is untrue,

(b) their investigation did not appear to have been conducted openly or transparently in a way designed to reveal the truth. If this was so, then reasonable people could well conclude it was possible that the article had motives incompatible with newscasting and that those motives might very well include a sensational article meant to increase audience, even if it would harm OSU's image.

(c) they knew that these allegations were investigated, in the main, and rejected as untrue, yet printed this as breathlessly new revelations anyway.

(d) If they knew the central character of the story was not exactly the poster child for morality and ethics, then chose ex-players with obvious motives against OSU, and dubious histories, to parade around as credibility for him.

If you conclude that this is the case, then you would be reasonable to hold them accountable for irresponsible journalism and to consider that they have acted in this manner with the intent to damage one of the finest universities and football programmes in America.

So, what do you think?
 
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I already don't watch Sportscenter because it's lame. College gameday is lame, so I don't watch that either, and when I watch college games on ESPN, I either turn the sound off on the announcers or entertain myself by correcting their errors and calling the game myself.

What more can I do?

:2004:
 
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Dear unprofessional "journalists"

What sort of agenda does ESPN have against Ohio State? Your piece on Clarett last night was about as well researched as something you'd see in a high school paper--a bad one. There was absolutely NO evidence of any wrongdoing. All you did was act as a mouthpiece for a few known malcontents with admitted grudges against a fine university. I have lost ALL respect for your network, and I will no longer put up with your drivel. As of this day, I will do all within my power to make sure as many of my fellow students here in East Lansing do the same. Until I hear a strongly worded retraction from you, we are calling it quits.



How's that?
 
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Steve - I think you know I reckon ESPN fails your own check-list, though I think the argument goes shorter as follows:
A - What Geiger said, what Tressel said, what College Footrball News said, What the Akron Beacon Journal Said.
C - See A above.
D - Mmm, See A - above
B - If they fail A, C, and D they cannot pass on B.
ESPN would only be to blame if:

(a) almost every bit of this had been alleged previously by Clarett and investigated by OSU and the NCAA with the conclusion that it is untrue,

(b) their investigation did not appear to have been conducted openly or transparently in a way designed to reveal the truth. If this was so, then reasonable people could well conclude it was possible that the article had motives incompatible with newscasting and that those motives might very well include a sensational article meant to increase audience, even if it would harm OSU's image.

(c) they knew that these allegations were investigated, in the main, and rejected as untrue, yet printed this as breathlessly new revelations anyway.

(d) If they knew the central character of the story was not exactly the poster child for morality and ethics, then chose ex-players with obvious motives against OSU, and dubious histories, to parade around as credibility for him.

If you conclude that this is the case, then you would be reasonable to hold them accountable for irresponsible journalism and to consider that they have acted in this manner with the intent to damage one of the finest universities and football programmes in America.

So, what do you think?<!-- / message -->
I think you cannot give ESPN a free pass when they indulge in irresponsible journalism.
 
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VprHis said:
Dear unprofessional "journalists"

What sort of agenda does ESPN have against Ohio State? Your piece on Clarett last night was about as well researched as something you'd see in a high school paper--a bad one. There was absolutely NO evidence of any wrongdoing. All you did was act as a mouthpiece for a few known malcontents with admitted grudges against a fine university. I have lost ALL respect for your network, and I will no longer put up with your drivel. As of this day, I will do all within my power to make sure as many of my fellow students here in East Lansing do the same. Until I hear a strongly worded retraction from you, we are calling it quits.
How's that?
Fabulous work. I hope you sent that off. Hopefully they get about 10K more of similar emails.
 
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Dear unprofessional "journalists"

What sort of agenda does ESPN have against Ohio State? Your piece on Clarett last night was about as well researched as something you'd see in a high school paper--a bad one. There was absolutely NO evidence of any wrongdoing. All you did was act as a mouthpiece for a few known malcontents with admitted grudges against a fine university. I have lost ALL respect for your network, and I will no longer put up with your drivel. As of this day, I will do all within my power to make sure as many of my fellow students here in East Lansing do the same. Until I hear a strongly worded retraction from you, we are calling it quits.



How's that?
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Add the fact that the sponsors need to be informed that they will also be boycott.
 
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Silverbullet said:
I say another way to boycott ESPN is the next time Gameday shows up at Cbus to cover "The Game" (maybe this year) no one should show up.

now theirs a pretty good idea except, we should set up a picket line in script ohio, with signs saying espn (^&^%&^%%$%**^%^*%^&*(^ love loyal osu fan
 
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