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Boise State, do they deserve a chance?

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Does Boise St. Deserve a Shot at the Winner of the BCS Game?

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My opinion is every team deserves the chance to win a National Championship in the "subdivision" they play in. There are National Champs in other "subdivisions" that don't think they should play Ohio State. A playoff, like the other "subdivisions," would be better than what we have.

Many of the same arguments, about how messy it would be, were applied to Instant Replay. It just takes the desire to get there and the work to make it happen. We will go there someday, people need to understand that. Not only was the monopoly of the sports networks covering it challenged, the conferences are being challenged as well as the BCS. We will have a playoff, like it or not. I would think most of you would be happy about 2 additional games to cheer for our team.
 
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kn1f3party;705969; said:
My opinion is every team deserves the chance to win a National Championship in the "subdivision" they play in. There are National Champs in other "subdivisions" that don't think they should play Ohio State. A playoff, like the other "subdivisions," would be better than what we have.

Many of the same arguments, about how messy it would be, were applied to Instant Replay. It just takes the desire to get there and the work to make it happen. We will go there someday, people need to understand that. Not only was the monopoly of the sports networks covering it challenged, the conferences are being challenged as well as the BCS. We will have a playoff, like it or not. I would think most of you would be happy about 2 additional games to cheer for our team.
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Whether there should be a playoff is an entirely separate argument. But in either case, your supposition that there will be a playoff says nothing about whether it would be an improvement to have a playoff, much less about whether a team with a demonstrably very weak schedule should be allowed into the D-1A national championship game.
 
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They deserve a chance... but only AFTER beating Oklahoma.

Honestly. If you're only playing ONE BCS conference team (Oregon State) during a regular season and go undefeated, I can see why they can and should be left off an 8-team playoff bracket. To deserve a chance, play a non-conference schedule that gives you an argument to play against an opponent of college playoff caliber (i.e. no sacremento states, no wyomings). That's been OSU's philosophy... and it's worked well. One in the bag, one to play.
 
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zincfinger;705958; said:
This is Boise State's schedule this year:
There are two serious games on that schedule: Oregon State at home, and vs. Oklahoma in the Fiesta Bowl. Every other game, with the arguable exception of vs. Hawaii, would be nothing more than a tune-up, for a legitimate national championship contender. How can a team be considered a national championship contender when their schedule is populated almost entirely with what would be considered tune-ups by the real contenders?
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Hawaii is a good team.
Utah is solid.
Nevada went to a bowl.

None of those teams are bad. How can the be considered a NC competor?

Losses:
Florida 1
Boise 0

How have the beat? Well who have they lost to?
 
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G-FORCE;706023; said:
Texas got beat at home by Texas A&M and nearly lost to a 6-7 Iowa team. They weren't that good.
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Obviously, my point was not that Texas was a great team this year. It was that a pretty decent BCS team, of which there were quite a few, would have had a very good chance of going undefeated if they had played Boise's schedule. And if you accept that as true, you can only argue that Boise deserves a title shot if you are consciously willing to reward teams for playing soft schedules. Everyone here who jumps on Notre Dame for making BCS bowls on the backs of the service academies should be aghast at that.
 
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G-FORCE;706050; said:
Boise aside, Oklahoma was better without Peterson. 7-0 without him, 3-4 with him.
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That dubious conclusion is not really relevant, unless you're arguing that Oklahoma would've likely beaten Texas had Peterson not played. Even then, it's only marginally relevant, since Oklahoma suffered from the Peterson "disadvantage" against Boise State as well.
 
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zincfinger;706064; said:
That dubious conclusion is not really relevant, unless you're arguing that Oklahoma would've likely beaten Texas had Peterson not played. Even then, it's only marginally relevant, since Oklahoma suffered from the Peterson "disadvantage" against Boise State as well.
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It didn't say it was relevant. In fact, it had absolutely nothing to do with this thread. I even said Boise aside. It was just an observation I made.
 
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G-FORCE;706050; said:
Boise aside, Oklahoma was better without Peterson. 7-0 without him, 3-4 with him.
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G-FORCE;706065; said:
It didn't say it was relevant. In fact, it had absolutely nothing to do with this thread. I even said Boise aside. It was just an observation I made.
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What I put in bold is a conclusion. I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that it was a conclusion drawn from the relative records of the team with and without Peterson. You cannot draw a conclusion if the data are not relevant.
 
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DaddyBigBucks;706075; said:
What I put in bold is a conclusion. I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that it was a conclusion drawn from the relative records of the team with and without Peterson. You cannot draw a conclusion if the data are not relevant.
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I meant it wasn't realevant to this discussion.
 
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