Which team advances in the first round, and how many games will it take?
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10k on Detroit in 4. It would be just like the teams I root for to absolutely hit a thud after waiting so long to make the playoffs.
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jimotis4heisman
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Game 1: @ Detroit, Thursday, 7 p.m.
Game 2: @ Detroit, Saturday, 6 p.m.
Game 3: @ Columbus, April 21, 7 p.m.
Game 4: @ Columbus, April 23, 7 p.m.
Game 5 (if necessary): @ Detroit, April 25, 6 p.m.
Game 6 (if necessary): @ Columbus, April 27, TBA
Game 7 (if necessary): @ Detroit, April 29, TBA
food for thought.
face offs
manny 58%
vermette 57.7%
peca 49.7%
novo 52.9%
draper 60.3%
datsyuk 56%
zetterburg 53.3%
Flippula 52.1%
det on the pp cbj pk
wings pp 25.5% (1)
cbj pk 82.1% (12th)
*nash is tied for 2nd in the league with 5 shorties
cbj on the pp wings pk
cbj pp 12.7% (30)
wings pk 78.3% (25)
top goal scorer
nash/hossa 40 (t-5)
hits
stuart 157
kopecky 109
cleary 107
commodore 201
hejda 168
boll 153
pp ice time
lidstrom 3.55
rafalski 3.45
datsyuk 3.18
holmstrom 3.17
hossa 3.03
huselius 3.54
tyutin 3.47
nash 3.38
russell 3.18
williams 3.13
umberger 2.54
pk on ice time
lidstrom 3.27
lilja 3.20
stuart 2.49
kronwall 2.30
draper 2.05
cleary 2.01
hejda 3.58
commodore 3.44
klesla 3.08
vermette 3.01
malhotra 2.49
tyutin 2.37
players with cup rings-
wings datsyuk-s, zetterberg-1, rafalski-3, hudler-1, lidstrom-4, kronwall-1, samuelsoon-1, cleary-1, flippula-1, holmstrom-4, kopecky-1, draper-4, lebda-1, lilja-1, stuart-1, maltby-4, downey-1, mccarty-4, helm-1,chelios-3, osgood-3
williams-1 (wings), modin-1, commodore-1
wings other
5-20 goal scorers
8-50+ pt players
11-40+ pt players
conks 25-11-2-6 .909 2.51
nogood 26-9-8-2 .887 3.09
cbj other
5-40+ pt players
mase 33-20-7-10 .916 2.29
anticpated lines
huselius/malhotra/nash
umberger/vermette/voracek
torres/williams/dorsett
chimmer/peca/?
picard, gratton, novo
*murray likely out with hamstring injury
-fialtov, likely wont play
-brassard has his next check up weds, will join the team thurs, anticpated to be back in games around may 1.
-modin, skating, status for games, unknown.
-expect an influx of kids from cuse (mayorov, etc) who will not play.
hejda/commodore
tyutin/klesla
russ/methot
(backman/rome)
*okt out for the year with another knee surgery
-a couple of youngster here also (holden, etc).
Game 2: @ Detroit, Saturday, 6 p.m.
Game 3: @ Columbus, April 21, 7 p.m.
Game 4: @ Columbus, April 23, 7 p.m.
Game 5 (if necessary): @ Detroit, April 25, 6 p.m.
Game 6 (if necessary): @ Columbus, April 27, TBA
Game 7 (if necessary): @ Detroit, April 29, TBA
food for thought.
face offs
manny 58%
vermette 57.7%
peca 49.7%
novo 52.9%
draper 60.3%
datsyuk 56%
zetterburg 53.3%
Flippula 52.1%
det on the pp cbj pk
wings pp 25.5% (1)
cbj pk 82.1% (12th)
*nash is tied for 2nd in the league with 5 shorties
cbj on the pp wings pk
cbj pp 12.7% (30)
wings pk 78.3% (25)
top goal scorer
nash/hossa 40 (t-5)
hits
stuart 157
kopecky 109
cleary 107
commodore 201
hejda 168
boll 153
pp ice time
lidstrom 3.55
rafalski 3.45
datsyuk 3.18
holmstrom 3.17
hossa 3.03
huselius 3.54
tyutin 3.47
nash 3.38
russell 3.18
williams 3.13
umberger 2.54
pk on ice time
lidstrom 3.27
lilja 3.20
stuart 2.49
kronwall 2.30
draper 2.05
cleary 2.01
hejda 3.58
commodore 3.44
klesla 3.08
vermette 3.01
malhotra 2.49
tyutin 2.37
players with cup rings-
wings datsyuk-s, zetterberg-1, rafalski-3, hudler-1, lidstrom-4, kronwall-1, samuelsoon-1, cleary-1, flippula-1, holmstrom-4, kopecky-1, draper-4, lebda-1, lilja-1, stuart-1, maltby-4, downey-1, mccarty-4, helm-1,chelios-3, osgood-3
williams-1 (wings), modin-1, commodore-1
wings other
5-20 goal scorers
8-50+ pt players
11-40+ pt players
conks 25-11-2-6 .909 2.51
nogood 26-9-8-2 .887 3.09
cbj other
5-40+ pt players
mase 33-20-7-10 .916 2.29
anticpated lines
huselius/malhotra/nash
umberger/vermette/voracek
torres/williams/dorsett
chimmer/peca/?
picard, gratton, novo
*murray likely out with hamstring injury
-fialtov, likely wont play
-brassard has his next check up weds, will join the team thurs, anticpated to be back in games around may 1.
-modin, skating, status for games, unknown.
-expect an influx of kids from cuse (mayorov, etc) who will not play.
hejda/commodore
tyutin/klesla
russ/methot
(backman/rome)
*okt out for the year with another knee surgery
-a couple of youngster here also (holden, etc).
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jimotis4heisman;1448666; said:
That's so uncharacteristic for the Wings, I can hardly believe it. I'm assuming that's more on Ozzie than the D-men. Scotty Bowman would never stand for that. I'd like to think that gives us an advantage, but I honestly expect better scoring chances when we're a man down than on the PP.
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jimotis4heisman
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columbus pp has been 4th in the western conference since the asg. at about 16%.
granted theyve given up a slew of sh goals.
if it comes down to lots of specialty teams play, it wont be good for the cbj.
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generaladm;1448713; said:
It's been a combo of both although the d-men have been just as bad in front of Conklin as Osgood. For a while Conklin was doing much much better (the puck was finding him where it wasn't finding Osgood), but that has since evened out.
Hell even Lidstrom was making mistakes down the stretch. It'll be interesting to see if Detroit really can turn it on for the playoffs.
I'm saying Detroit in 6 BTW. If Detroit does anything like they did last year, they'll win games on the road and drop games at home that they shouldn't.
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LitlBuck;1448757; said:
You're certainly not way off base, but I would say it's a bit "six of one, half dozen of the other". You could say that less penalties make PPs less of a factor, or you could say that less opportunities put PP effectiveness at a premium. The playoffs are certainly not penalty free. I think most players are more conscious of avoiding stupid penalties, and refs tend to keep the whistles in their pockets, as long as things aren't out of control, but there have been many playoff games decided by PP goals. The most famous example would have to be the 93 finals, when the Kings were trying to run out the clock with a 1 goal lead to put them up 2 games to none on MTL. Habs coach Demers called for a measurement of Marty McSorley's illegal stick, which resulted in a 2 min minor. MTL scored on the 6 on 4 (pulled goalie) in the final minute, went on to win in OT, and then swept the rest of the series.
IMO, penalty killing is more of a factor in the playoffs. Just like football, defense wins championships (it's been years since a wide open offensive team won the cup), and nothing swings momentum like stonewalling a man advantage.
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jimotis4heisman
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i guess we can use this for the whole series?
random sprinkles of crap i guess...
first and foremost today is "hockey day" in my office. if you work for me you can wear jeans and something hockey related. i figured we do it for ohio state football why not right? cant hurt, and maybe it will put a smile on a face or two around here....
face offs-theyll be critical as i mentioned. the addition of vermette has helped columbus a lot. manyy can win at a high % but youll notice he specializes on one side of the ice, vermette gives them the ability to win on both sides and is actually stonrger on the other side. draper is awesome on the draw and datsyuk/zetterberg catn complain their. faceoffs lead to puck poession and that leads to good things. if columbus holds the wings to the mid-low 50s thats a win.
goaltending-the youngster vs the wiley playoff vet. osgood has an mo. nogood in the regular season and then finds it, hes done it before, who knows. mase is a kid. he cant even drink. what you see is babcock now saying, "eh hes ok, weve got him figured out" thats yanking on a dogs chain. mason has had his chain yanked before. mase isnt the kind of kid to bark back, welll see if the dog bites when his cage has been rattled. (sure you can point to jrs and what not but thats a whole different level).
defencement-you have multi time allstar and norris trophies against a "bunch of journeyman" according to babcock. the top pairing journeyman in columbus has been successfull pairing, big, physical and tough to play against, keeping guys wide and clearing pucks. dont expect the hejda/commie pairing to generate offense. you know what you have on the red wings blue line, i dont think anyone can question that. you have an older lad who is as good as anyone in the league, maybe the best defenceman to ever play the game in lidstrom.
forwards-the top two lines are basically an all star team. fact. columbus has malhotra on the top pivot. the only star columbus has is nash, you know the point per game player, the one second in the league in no pp goals (34 to ovies 37), a young man who has played in the olympics, mvp of world championships, yet has never proven anything in lord stanleys playoffs. hitch has instilled a work ethic, a mentality of a young stevie y, sakic, etc in young nash, will nash play every zone, every minute, and every second of every shift as needed? the best player has to be your best player in all aspects of the game. a 25 year old aww shucks kid who according to him has never made a play, remember the goal in phx, that wasnt his takeaway or moves undressing two defenders and a netminder, remember what he said-it was the pass that set it all up, amazing pass, the rest "just happened" that pass was a whack out towards centre ice that nash won a foot race for. the question is can the captain, the leading scorer the leader strap the team to his back.
*no offense aimed at umberger/vermette/juice/jake, etc. those guys will be needed. no doubt but nash will have to will this team past a superior skilled red wings team.
speciality teams-wings. no doubt. columbus pk has been running hot/cold all year, the wings pp is 25.5%, unreal. cbj power play is dead last in the league, 4th in the west since the asg. wings.
coaching-babs will line his team up toe to toe and just play. strength agains whatever you put out there. hitch will juggle lines, play a matchup game. imo, hitch is the better bench boss, babs has fire superiority.
intangibles-wings. a bazillion cups on the team.
style of play-if columbus plays a tight checking game, keeps the game wide (towards the boards) in the def zone, gets traffic on net, pucks in deep at the other end, plays a physical hockey series they have a shot. the margin of error is razor thin. hitch will need his troops marching in exact step to have a shoot. if its a puck poession series, wings win. if its in between, wings win.
other-hockey is a team game. but individual performances can steal games. look at umbergers play last year, his playoff play needs to be repeated, mason was undefeated last year in his 5 playoff games with the kitchener rangers in the ohl playoffs, mvp of wjrc, nash has had his runs on the big stage, commie, peca, torres, etc have all put together great games, series. thats what it will take.
my take-wings in six.
random sprinkles of crap i guess...
first and foremost today is "hockey day" in my office. if you work for me you can wear jeans and something hockey related. i figured we do it for ohio state football why not right? cant hurt, and maybe it will put a smile on a face or two around here....
face offs-theyll be critical as i mentioned. the addition of vermette has helped columbus a lot. manyy can win at a high % but youll notice he specializes on one side of the ice, vermette gives them the ability to win on both sides and is actually stonrger on the other side. draper is awesome on the draw and datsyuk/zetterberg catn complain their. faceoffs lead to puck poession and that leads to good things. if columbus holds the wings to the mid-low 50s thats a win.
goaltending-the youngster vs the wiley playoff vet. osgood has an mo. nogood in the regular season and then finds it, hes done it before, who knows. mase is a kid. he cant even drink. what you see is babcock now saying, "eh hes ok, weve got him figured out" thats yanking on a dogs chain. mason has had his chain yanked before. mase isnt the kind of kid to bark back, welll see if the dog bites when his cage has been rattled. (sure you can point to jrs and what not but thats a whole different level).
defencement-you have multi time allstar and norris trophies against a "bunch of journeyman" according to babcock. the top pairing journeyman in columbus has been successfull pairing, big, physical and tough to play against, keeping guys wide and clearing pucks. dont expect the hejda/commie pairing to generate offense. you know what you have on the red wings blue line, i dont think anyone can question that. you have an older lad who is as good as anyone in the league, maybe the best defenceman to ever play the game in lidstrom.
forwards-the top two lines are basically an all star team. fact. columbus has malhotra on the top pivot. the only star columbus has is nash, you know the point per game player, the one second in the league in no pp goals (34 to ovies 37), a young man who has played in the olympics, mvp of world championships, yet has never proven anything in lord stanleys playoffs. hitch has instilled a work ethic, a mentality of a young stevie y, sakic, etc in young nash, will nash play every zone, every minute, and every second of every shift as needed? the best player has to be your best player in all aspects of the game. a 25 year old aww shucks kid who according to him has never made a play, remember the goal in phx, that wasnt his takeaway or moves undressing two defenders and a netminder, remember what he said-it was the pass that set it all up, amazing pass, the rest "just happened" that pass was a whack out towards centre ice that nash won a foot race for. the question is can the captain, the leading scorer the leader strap the team to his back.
*no offense aimed at umberger/vermette/juice/jake, etc. those guys will be needed. no doubt but nash will have to will this team past a superior skilled red wings team.
speciality teams-wings. no doubt. columbus pk has been running hot/cold all year, the wings pp is 25.5%, unreal. cbj power play is dead last in the league, 4th in the west since the asg. wings.
coaching-babs will line his team up toe to toe and just play. strength agains whatever you put out there. hitch will juggle lines, play a matchup game. imo, hitch is the better bench boss, babs has fire superiority.
intangibles-wings. a bazillion cups on the team.
style of play-if columbus plays a tight checking game, keeps the game wide (towards the boards) in the def zone, gets traffic on net, pucks in deep at the other end, plays a physical hockey series they have a shot. the margin of error is razor thin. hitch will need his troops marching in exact step to have a shoot. if its a puck poession series, wings win. if its in between, wings win.
other-hockey is a team game. but individual performances can steal games. look at umbergers play last year, his playoff play needs to be repeated, mason was undefeated last year in his 5 playoff games with the kitchener rangers in the ohl playoffs, mvp of wjrc, nash has had his runs on the big stage, commie, peca, torres, etc have all put together great games, series. thats what it will take.
my take-wings in six.
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BucyrusBuckeye;1451231; said:
Sorry, no, but good luck. gregorylee had a good streak going a couple of years ago.
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