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OK, so last week I had a thread for tweaks and such.... here is (what's going to be) the finished product:

Rk....Team.................W....L...SOS...Final Score
1.....Oklahoma.............12...1....8....188.2207
2.....Florida..............12...1...18....177.1832
3.....Texas................11...1...12....164.6770
4.....Texas Tech...........11...1...27....137.5600
5.....Southern California..11...1...40....136.7757
6.....Utah.................12...0...71....128.3398
7.....Alabama..............12...1...56....121.2592
8.....Penn St..............11...1...61....120.3676
9.....Georgia...............9...3...13....118.7066
10....Ohio St..............10...2...45....107.6783
11....Boise St.............12...0..114....107.1259
12....Virginia Tech.........9...4...11....102.8285
13....Pittsburgh............9...3...22.....98.2077
14....Oregon St.............8...4...21.....93.9521
15....Cincinnati...........11...2...60.....92.3479
16....Georgia Tech..........9...3...31.....92.0932
17....TCU..................10...2...76.....90.8903
18....North Carolina........8...4...10.....90.2190
19....Oklahoma St...........9...3...39.....88.0709
20....Boston College........9...4...26.....86.0137
21....Ball St..............12...1..116.....85.2480
22....Missouri..............9...4...30.....84.0722
23....Wake Forest...........7...5....4.....81.3686
24....Michigan St...........9...3...36.....81.0863
25....Florida St............8...4...32.....78.0642
26....Miami (Fla.)..........7...5....7.....75.6469
27....Oregon................9...3...47.....75.4978
28....Nebraska..............8...4...28.....74.7452
29....Mississippi...........8...4...43.....70.0320
30....BYU..................10...2...84.....68.6192
31....South Carolina........7...5...14.....68.0297
32....Clemson...............7...5...17.....65.8888
33....California............8...4...46.....63.9594
34....North Carolina St.....6...6....3.....63.5702
35....Northwestern..........9...3...63.....61.8390
36....West Virginia.........8...4...48.....58.5789
37....Iowa..................8...4...52.....57.6462
38....Kansas................7...5...25.....56.3314
39....Maryland..............7...5...19.....53.7863
40....Connecticut...........7...5...38.....46.2359
41....Vanderbilt............6...6...20.....43.2934
42....Virginia..............5...7....1.....40.7935
43....East Carolina.........9...4...75.....38.8456
44....Navy..................8...4...73.....36.9152
45....Air Force.............8...4...77.....35.7759
46....LSU...................7...5...50.....34.5626
47....Rice..................9...3...99.....34.5110
48....Tulsa................10...3..122.....33.2468
49....Western Mich..........9...3..108.....30.8681
50....Wisconsin.............7...5...49.....30.7371
51....South Fla.............7...5...58.....25.5103
52....Rutgers...............7...5...65.....25.2844
53....Notre Dame............6...6...35.....22.8331
54....Duke..................4...8....2.....22.5323
55....Baylor................4...8....6.....22.4703
56....Colorado..............5...7....9.....17.2055
57....Arkansas..............5...7...16.....16.6149
58....Minnesota.............7...5...70.....16.2014
59....Arizona...............7...5...80.....15.4214
60....Stanford..............5...7...29.....13.3898
61....Troy..................8...4..125.....12.9402
62....Central Mich..........8...4...95.....12.4814
63....Buffalo...............8...5...82......9.3909
64....Tennessee.............5...7...41......1.2388
65....Nevada................7...5...89......0.8869
66....Illinois..............5...7...44.....-3.6433
67....Kentucky..............6...6...72.....-5.3459
68....Colorado St...........6...6...59.....-7.9116
69....Fresno St.............7...5...93.....-8.6570
70....Texas A&M.............4...8...15.....-9.7651
71....Hawaii................7...6...74....-10.4012
72....Arizona St............5...7...53....-12.1528
73....Purdue................4...8...34....-12.5967
74....Houston...............7...5..105....-13.5337
75....Louisiana Tech........7...5..109....-13.7816
76....Auburn................5...7...54....-14.0000
77....Kansas St.............5...7...55....-17.2548
78....UCLA..................4...8...33....-22.0225
79....Southern Miss.........6...6...97....-24.3604
80....Bowling Green.........6...6...94....-24.7827
81....Michigan..............3...9...24....-27.9476
82....UNLV..................5...7...67....-31.0741
83....San Jose St...........6...6..102....-31.5685
84....Fla. Atlantic.........6...6...98....-34.3438
85....New Mexico............4...8...57....-35.0611
86....Northern Ill..........6...6..113....-35.1007
87....Memphis...............6...6..119....-36.8637
88....Syracuse..............3...9...23....-37.0886
89....Arkansas St...........6...6..128....-39.5828
90....Temple................5...7...79....-40.8297
91....Mississippi St........4...8...51....-42.2033
92....UTEP..................5...7...85....-42.2931
93....La.-Lafayette.........6...6..115....-43.0197
94....Louisville............5...7...81....-43.8090
95....Akron.................5...7...88....-44.7284
96....Wyoming...............4...8...69....-60.4063
97....Marshall..............4...8...78....-61.0969
98....UCF...................4...8...86....-62.9080
99....Iowa St...............2..10...42....-64.1749
100...Florida Int'l.........5...7..112....-64.8710
101...Middle Tenn. St.......5...7..120....-66.1603
102...Utah St...............3...9...62....-69.7280
103...Ohio..................4...8...90....-71.6670
104...Indiana...............3...9...64....-73.3735
105...Kent St...............4...8..104....-83.1481
106...Army..................3...9...83....-85.7547
107...UAB...................4...8..110....-87.0413
108...Washington............0..12....5....-89.0850
109...Washington St.........2..11...37....-94.5575
110...Toledo................3...9...92....-95.2910
111...Eastern Mich..........3...9...96....-96.9826
112...La.-Monroe............4...8..127....-98.8526
113...San Diego St..........2..10...66...-100.5531
114...New Mexico St.........3...9..111...-107.7692
115...Tulane................2..10...87...-115.5640
116...Miami (Ohio)..........2..10...91...-117.0270
117...SMU...................1..11...68...-120.9956
118...Idaho.................2..10..101...-133.4487
119...North Texas...........1..11..103...-156.9871

Not bad, I think. Still a couple of head scratchers, but nothing outlandish, I don't think....

Don't like UGA ahead of OSU... but, the numbers came out that way. I used 31 stat categories, and SOS is from Sagarin. Had to adjust for losses, because 4 loss Virginia Tech was top 10 and I couldn't wrap my head around that.

I made this its own thread because this time I'm not necessarily looking for new tweaks to the formula - though your comments (and even new tweaks) are more than welcome.
 
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LitlBuck;1350702; said:
Utah, Georgia, Boise State, Virginia Tech, Oregon State, North Carolina:lol: Obviously, you did not use the "best of tweaks".
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Well, I'm inclined to agree, but as I think about it... why?

A) Utah and Boise State are helped out by their undefeated records. But, 6 and 11 don't seem to me unreasonable (Even if I think, personally, that mid-majors should rarely, if ever, break the top 15)

B) Georgia, Virginia Tech, Oregon State and North Carolina are all helped by their SOS. At first, I was quite troubled by Georgia at 3 losses being ahead of Ohio State... but, then.. I thought.. what's the big deal? I'm not uncomfortable with a 2 loss OSU being ahead of a 0 loss Boise... so.. maybe UGAs performance v. their schedule is slightly more impressive than OSU's against OSU's schedule. As for the rest - Va Tech, Oregon State and NC - while I, like you, am not inclined to put them where they fell here - as before.. what's truly "out of line" with them where they are? I suppose we can argue if the ACC SOS bump is legit (and, as I said above, it seems unusual to me) but none-the-less, each of those teams is rated among other 3 and 4 loss teams (excluding Cincy and TCU - teams who enjoyed easy schedules). Yes, Oregon State got pole-axed by Oregon (and PSU)... but.. they did beat USC and had an otherwise decent year.

Likewise, if it were simply my opinion, there is little hope Pitt would be as high as they are here.

So, I guess what I'm saying is - I agree with your point just on my instincts... but... I'm hard pressed to disagree with the data. Again, I think the SOS data is ACC skewed, but in as much as it's a valid measure, the ratings seem generally legit.
 
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Buckeyeskickbuttocks;1350723; said:
Well, I'm inclined to agree, but as I think about it... why?

A) Utah and Boise State are helped out by their undefeated records. But, 6 and 11 don't seem to me unreasonable (Even if I think, personally, that mid-majors should rarely, if ever, break the top 15)

B) Georgia, Virginia Tech, Oregon State and North Carolina are all helped by their SOS. At first, I was quite troubled by Georgia at 3 losses being ahead of Ohio State... but, then.. I thought.. what's the big deal? I'm not uncomfortable with a 2 loss OSU being ahead of a 0 loss Boise... so.. maybe UGAs performance v. their schedule is slightly more impressive than OSU's against OSU's schedule. As for the rest - Va Tech, Oregon State and NC - while I, like you, am not inclined to put them where they fell here - as before.. what's truly "out of line" with them where they are? I suppose we can argue if the ACC SOS bump is legit (and, as I said above, it seems unusual to me) but none-the-less, each of those teams is rated among other 3 and 4 loss teams (excluding Cincy and TCU - teams who enjoyed easy schedules). Yes, Oregon State got pole-axed by Oregon (and PSU)... but.. they did beat USC and had an otherwise decent year.

Likewise, if it were simply my opinion, there is little hope Pitt would be as high as they are here.

So, I guess what I'm saying is - I agree with your point just on my instincts... but... I'm hard pressed to disagree with the data. Again, I think the SOS data is ACC skewed, but in as much as it's a valid measure, the ratings seem generally legit.
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I guess my biggest problem is with the mid-majors. I, like you and unlike BB, do not think that they should ever crack the top 15. I guess a good example would be to look at what happened to Ball State this past weekend. I know all of your rankings are statistically generated so there really is not much you can do.

I guess what I don't understand is that his defensive and offensive statistics were taken into consideration how his Oregon State and Georgia rated so high. I guess after you get past #10 you probably could just throw the rest of the teams in a hat and start drawing.

I will be very curious to see how the ACC teams do in their bowl games. I will also be curious to see the Big XII teams perform after Oklahoma and Texas.

I guess I am just too much of an eyeball analyzer:wink2:
 
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LitlBuck;1350733; said:
I guess my biggest problem is with the mid-majors. I, like you and unlike BB, do not think that they should ever crack the top 15. I guess a good example would be to look at what happened to Ball State this past weekend. I know all of your rankings are statistically generated so there really is not much you can do.

I guess what I don't understand is that his defensive and offensive statistics were taken into consideration how his Oregon State and Georgia rated so high. I guess after you get past #10 you probably could just throw the rest of the teams in a hat and start drawing.

I will be very curious to see how the ACC teams do in their bowl games. I will also be curious to see the Big XII teams perform after Oklahoma and Texas.

I guess I am just too much of an eyeball analyzer:wink2:
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My guess is that it's because of the offensive and defense stats I used - they don't necessarily favor high octane offenses, for example. So, while you get points for scoring TDs in 3 plays (ie high total yards passing) you also get credit for being able to plod on down the field (1st downs and 3rd down conversion) I did this for a couple reasons; A) I wanted to capture as much of the game as I could statistically and B) I didn't want to "over reward" a team which drives down the field in 30 seconds, but can't get the tough yard if they need it.

Plus, I also included turnover stats and special teams stats, which I don't know if they help or hurt Georgia and/or Oregon State, but having great special teams - being another factor in best TEAM - afforded some teams some points you might not otherwise think of.

I know one of BB73's objections on my "tweaks" thread was rewarding stats encourages running it up... I disagree with him because A) I use stats that don't get effected by scoring quickly, or throwing more to offset those stats, and B) I use so many categories, no team could say "Well, we'll maximize our rating by focusing on passing," (for example), because they'd be losing points in other categories.
 
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LitlBuck;1350733; said:
I guess my biggest problem is with the mid-majors. I, like you and unlike BB, do not think that they should ever crack the top 15.
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why? so long as they play high caliber teams and win, why don't they deserve the rankings just a much as anyone else?

tOSU's "best" wins this season were against scum lite and northwestern. not exactly power personified... so lets not get too cocky here :wink:. boise beat a 9-3 oregon at eugene. sorry but i gotta give them atleast some credit for that. besides, who below them would you move up? UC is the only team ranked lower with less than 3 losses. we gonna have a conversation about the awesomeness of the big east? :p

I guess what I don't understand is that his defensive and offensive statistics were taken into consideration how his Oregon State and Georgia rated so high. I guess after you get past #10 you probably could just throw the rest of the teams in a hat and start drawing.
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georgia sos - 13
oregon state sos - 21
tOSU sos - 45

though your final statement isn't too far from the truth really. once you start hitting the 3+ loss teams your comparing who was the least mediocre. honestly, there are a lot of 2 loss teams you could throw into the mediocre category as well.

I will be very curious to see how the ACC teams do in their bowl games. I will also be curious to see the Big XII teams perform after Oklahoma and Texas.
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i expect the acc to do about as well as the big 10 honestly. badly. but the big 12 imo has a chance to have a very good showing all said. i really didn't see any major mismatches. they could loose every bowl game, they could also win every bowl game as well. will be fun to watch how this bowl season plays out.
 
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