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So the Big XII has a 4-way tie for the lead at 6-2, and 5 teams at 6-5.

West Virginia, a 6-5 team, has a chance to play in the CCG. But if they win it, the league would get zero bids because their champion would not be among the 5 highest-ranked conference champions (B1G, SEC, ACC, Mtn West, and the Tulane-Army winner in the American).

If Arizona State beats Arizona, they make the CCG.
If Iowa State beats Kansas St, they make the CCG.
If one of them loses, BYU (playing Houston) and/or Colorado (playing Okie St) could win and make the CCG.

If 3 of those 4 teams lose, a 6-3 conference record will make the CCG and the tiebreakers are complicated.
 
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So the Big XII has a 4-way tie for the lead at 6-2, and 5 teams at 6-5.

West Virginia, a 6-5 team, has a chance to play in the CCG. But if they win it, the league would get zero bids because their champion would not be among the 5 highest-ranked conference champions (B1G, SEC, ACC, Mtn West, and the Tulane-Army winner in the American).

If Arizona State beats Arizona, they make the CCG.
If Iowa State beats Kansas St, they make the CCG.
If one of them loses, BYU (playing Houston) and/or Colorado (playing Okie St) could win and make the CCG.

If 3 of those 4 teams lose, a 6-3 conference record will make the CCG and the tiebreakers are complicated.
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Expanding the playoff to 12 was a mistake.
 
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So if you’re a fan of chaos, here is how the 8-way tie could happen.

Colorado (at home) loses to Okie St on Friday.

Saturday noon games:
Baylor (at home) beats Kansas to get to 6-3.
WVU at Texas Tech winner will get to 6-3, loser is out.

Arizona (at home) beats Arizona St at 3:30

TCU wins at Cincy at 6:00

Kansas St wins at Iowa St at 7:30

Houston wins at BYU at 10:15

Colorado, Arizona State and BYU are solid favorites, but the other 3 games that matter could easily happen that way.

Here are the tiebreaker scenarios:

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Big 12 back to divisions? League mulls College Football Playoff AQ options with play-in games at forefront

With CFP changes on the horizon, the Big 12 is considering its options to find its place
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Big 12 back to divisions? League mulls College Football Playoff AQ options with play-in games at forefront​

With CFP changes on the horizon, the Big 12 is considering its options to find its place​

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The Big 12 will continue to grow. That is, if you believe the possibilities going forward regarding automatic qualifiers in the College Football Playoff.

That's a reference to possibly more Big 12 games, not more Big 12 teams as the format and structure of the CFP begin to take shape for the 2026 season when the new six-year deal with ESPN begins.

Some are almost resigned to the fact there will be automatic qualifiers in the field at the urging of the Big Ten and SEC. Their proposed model of 4-4-2-2-1-1 means four AQs each for the Big Ten and SEC, two each for the ACC and Big 12, one at-large spot and one for the highest-ranked Group of Five conference champion.

After making the rounds this week at the Big 12 Tournament, it's clear the conference has begun to consider its place in that new world. Commissioner Brett Yormark has not publicly committed to the AQ model for his conference, but it's fair to say every league has at least considered the concept of play-in games for those AQ spots.

"Let me ask you something," Yormark replied to a questioner Tuesday at a tournament kickoff press conference, "do you think I'm shy or no?"

CBS Sports reported on the details of play-in games in December. While the possibilities are preliminary -- and almost endless -- at this point, there are at least two models to consider to determine those two Big 12 automatic qualifiers.

1) The top four regular-season teams qualify with the No. 1 seed playing the No. 4 seed and No. 2 playing No. 3. The two winners on that championship weekend in December would advance to the CFP.

Using last year's standings, these would be the matchups:
  • No. 1 Arizona State vs. No. 4 Colorado
  • No. 2 Iowa State vs. No. 3 BYU
2) The 16-team league could split into two divisions, looking a lot like the old Big 12. One possibility is the two first-place teams in each division would qualify along with the teams with next two best records. (Don't even start with tiebreakers in that scenario).

Let's take it a step further and dream up the composition of those two divisions based on geography …

Big 12 West​

  • Arizona State
  • Arizona
  • BYU
  • Utah
  • Texas Tech
  • Colorado
  • TCU
  • Houston

Big 12 East​

  • Baylor
  • Iowa State
  • Kansas
  • Kansas State
  • UCF
  • Cincinnati
  • Oklahoma State
  • West Virginia
Again, based on last year's standings the matchups would go the same way:
  • Arizona State vs. Colorado
  • Iowa State vs. BYU
In that setting, each team would play a seven-team, round-robin schedule against the teams in its division. There would be two crossover games. You're way ahead of things in the scenario above if you've already noticed three of the four play-in teams would come from the West division.

In both play-in structures, there is no outright conference champion. In one iteration, the two winners would be declared co-champs. In another, a team with the best record could be declared the "regular-season" champion.
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ScriptOhio said:
In both play-in structures, there is no outright conference champion. In one iteration, the two winners would be declared co-champs. In another, a team with the best record could be declared the "regular-season" champion.
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Reminds me of 2014. Remember when the Big 12 did not have a conference championship game, and just said that the winner of the regular season is the champion? And then they came out and said something like, "We're going to wait for XYZ to endorse who we think our champion is." The champion had no bearing on the playoffs, so the playoff committee just kinda said, "Okay, cool. But we don't care."
It'd be funny if no Big 12 teams make the playoff because the committee got too confused on who the Big 12 champion is.
 
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