TGfan06
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I was talking with my friend (an illini fan) and he said Dials was a lock for POY. It got me thinking, who ya got?
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he's definitely not a lock. He had an unbelievable close, but he wasn't in the top-4 earlier in the year. I would say tucker is more of an MVP. Everyone loves Dee Brown, even tho he can take entire games (or weeks off... as seen after playing us last year) from shooting well.
I think he has a good shot, but he's far from a lock.
I think he has a good shot, but he's far from a lock.
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scooter1369
HTTR Forever.
I think Dee Brown will get it. More of a career acknowledgement, than a POY. But he'll get it for that reason. Much like Wuerffel's Heisman.
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crazybuckfan40
Head Coach
Honestly I would go with Foster. I know alot of you guys probably just said what the hell is this dude smokin' but hear me out first.
But just hear me out. I think he is clearly the top player combining both offense and defense.
He leads the league in steals, and he has shut down the likes of Ager, Brown, Horton, etc. all year.
He averages 4.5 rbs which is around 25th in the big ten and that is by a guard.
He is 2nd in the league in 3pt. percentage and it isnt like he only takes one to two a game he takes quite a lot of them.
Lets then throw in that he averages 14.1pts/game which is 16th in the conference, while not as much as compared to other guys, but he gets as much out of his shots as possible by a guard, as he shoots one of the top percentages in the country for a guard.
Also throw in that he averages 3 assists a game.
Now that is one helluva a stat line for just one person. But a MVP doesnt just put up the points, he puts up all numbers. Jekel is the all around hustle type player that any coach would love to have.
This is not a knock on Dials, but IMO Foster is the MVP of this team and I just think that Foster is more valuable then the other guys.
Am I being a homer, well if you think I am prove me wrong with stats, but this is how I feel.
But just hear me out. I think he is clearly the top player combining both offense and defense.
He leads the league in steals, and he has shut down the likes of Ager, Brown, Horton, etc. all year.
He averages 4.5 rbs which is around 25th in the big ten and that is by a guard.
He is 2nd in the league in 3pt. percentage and it isnt like he only takes one to two a game he takes quite a lot of them.
Lets then throw in that he averages 14.1pts/game which is 16th in the conference, while not as much as compared to other guys, but he gets as much out of his shots as possible by a guard, as he shoots one of the top percentages in the country for a guard.
Also throw in that he averages 3 assists a game.
Now that is one helluva a stat line for just one person. But a MVP doesnt just put up the points, he puts up all numbers. Jekel is the all around hustle type player that any coach would love to have.
This is not a knock on Dials, but IMO Foster is the MVP of this team and I just think that Foster is more valuable then the other guys.
Am I being a homer, well if you think I am prove me wrong with stats, but this is how I feel.
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I'm confused, are we supposed to hear you out? I might have heard it after the third time :p
You could make a case that OSU struggles more when Butler goes out of a game than foster. He shoots the ball well, but I'm not sure his stat line stacks up other than FG %. I love foster, but I'm not sure he's more valuable than these guys. I think he's the most complete star in the big ten, but I seriously doubt he will sniff the top of the award votes.
Key Stats
GPMIN ... GPTS ... GREB ... GAST ... GFG %
foster ... 33.1 ... 14.1 ... 4.4 ... 2.9 ... 52.5
tucker ... 33.6 ... 19 ... 5.9 ... 1.74 ... 5.9
horton ... 33.8 ... 17.2 ... 2.6 ... 5.64 ... 4.5
brunner ... 32.11 ... 4.3 ... 10 ... 1.94 ... 4.6
and who will get it, but doesn't deserve it
brown ... 34 ... 14.1 ... 3 ... 5.4 ... 37.2
You could make a case that OSU struggles more when Butler goes out of a game than foster. He shoots the ball well, but I'm not sure his stat line stacks up other than FG %. I love foster, but I'm not sure he's more valuable than these guys. I think he's the most complete star in the big ten, but I seriously doubt he will sniff the top of the award votes.
Key Stats
GPMIN ... GPTS ... GREB ... GAST ... GFG %
foster ... 33.1 ... 14.1 ... 4.4 ... 2.9 ... 52.5
tucker ... 33.6 ... 19 ... 5.9 ... 1.74 ... 5.9
horton ... 33.8 ... 17.2 ... 2.6 ... 5.64 ... 4.5
brunner ... 32.11 ... 4.3 ... 10 ... 1.94 ... 4.6
and who will get it, but doesn't deserve it
brown ... 34 ... 14.1 ... 3 ... 5.4 ... 37.2
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Buckeye513
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Ager put 26 on us last week, Brown put up 17 last week and 20 in the first game, and Horton had 15 in the first game and 12 yesterday. Just so you know.
Jamar Butler is a much better defender, IMO.
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OSUBasketballJunkie
Never Forget 31-0
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2/28/06
2/28/06
BIG TEN BASKETBALL
Player-of-the-year STUFF: Does Dials have it?
Tuesday, February 28, 2006
Bob Baptist
THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH
</IMG> NEAL C . LAURON | DISPATCH Pro: Double trouble during Buckeyes’ championship run Con: Not his own team’s best player before February
A Freudian slip by the moderator advised callers to the Big Ten men’s basketball coaches teleconference yesterday that the league’s ‘‘player of the year" would be available for questions at the end of the call.
She meant to say ‘‘player of the week," but she might have been prescient. They might end up being one and the same.
Ohio State center Terence Dials was honored yesterday, for the first time this season, as Big Ten player of the week. A week from today, his role in the Buckeyes’ surge to a Big Ten championship could make him the conference’s player of the year.
‘‘If I had to vote today, that’s who I’d vote for," Purdue coach Matt Painter said.
Ohio State (21-4, 10-4) can win at least a share of the conference title with a victory in one of its final two games, Wednesday night at Northwestern or Sunday at home against Purdue. Winning both games would give the Buckeyes the title outright.
Every Big Ten coach surveyed yesterday said that, in voting for the player of the year, he weighs a player’s impact on his team’s success and, unless one player is far and away more talented, generally sides with the most significant player on the championship team. That describes the winner or co-winner of the award 11 of the past 15 years.
‘‘I’ve always been a firm believer, even back when I played (at Indiana) and now as a coach, that that honor should always be awarded to (a player on) the team that wins it," Iowa coach Steve Alford said. ‘‘And that hasn’t been decided yet."
Ohio State enters the final week of the regular season with a one-game lead over Illinois, Iowa and Wisconsin. Each has candidates in the player-of-the-year conversation, but none has had the recent impact of Dials, who has averaged 19.6 points and 12.6 rebounds in the past five games to lead the Buckeyes to the top of the standings.
Dials has finished with a double-double in each game, the longest such stretch by an OSU player since Brad Sellers had nine in a row during the 1985-86 season.
"I think the light has gone on for Terence and he’s seeing the sand go through the hourglass and saying, ‘Hey, this is my last run,’ " OSU coach Thad Matta said. "I think he’s playing more passionate (and with) more intensity on both ends of the floor, and he’s limiting those times of where he’s kind of floating in and out of the game. He has just really had great determination."
Dials said his mind-set is due in part to a conversation he had with former Ohio State standout Bill Hosket before a game at Wisconsin two weeks ago.
"He was telling me how he was toward the end of his senior year and how you always think you’re playing hard until the last month or so comes around and you want to pick it up even more," Dials said.
"I think that’s been the case with me. It is coming to an end, so you don’t want to leave anything on the court. You want to leave a memory in people’s minds that you gave it all you had."
Ohio State was 7-4 in the Big Ten in Hosket’s senior year (1967-1968) before winning its last three games. The Buckeyes gained a share of the conference title when Iowa lost at home to Michigan on the final day of the season. The Buckeyes then beat the Hawkeyes in a playoff for the Big Ten’s only berth in the NCAA Tournament, beat Kentucky on its home floor in a regional final and ended up in the Final Four.
"I can still remember the last month of the season just practicing harder than I ever had before," Hosket said. "We did realize, or I did, that it was about to be over. Not that you don’t always feel like you’re giving it your best, but you take it to the next degree.
"Terence really seems to be pushing himself now, which is wonderful to see.
He’s moving better than I’ve ever seen him move in his career. Without question, he’s definitely a candidate (for player of the year). The guy that made all the obvious hustle plays earlier in the year (Je’Kel Foster), he continues to play well. But Terence has taken over both ends of the floor this last month."
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