Big Ten official allegedly tied to gambling, abuse

[NightmaresDad]

Agreed, but I'll take it half a step further.

Any gambling debts are unacceptable for an official of any sports contest that attracts gambling interest.

As with any debt, you need to think about:

• To whom you owe the money *yikes*
• What might they ask you to do to make good on it...

If you have enough neurons to make a synapse you'll see that it doesn't need to be any worse than having gambling debts for this to be very, very serious. This is a situation where anyone who "should have known" needs to be fired. Yesterday.

It is not necessary for him to have money on games he called. Instead, the wiser path is to let your associates bet on the game and then collect a fee or obtain debt forgiveness for calling it a certain way.

EXACTLY

I guess now that it's not Michigan week, it's OK to point out the obvious regarding the team of officials that worked the IL game and the PSU-PU game?
Especially now that there seems to be hard evidence to back it up.
(I hope Matcar is reading this thread!)

 

[Nordberg]

I am not shocked about this news. I heard it this morning and was not surprised. I knew that the "crew" was repremanded for the PSU-PU game, and they called a somewhat shady gave against us and Ill. I think it is important to note is that it is not proven that he bet on the games we was refereeing.

Yes the fumble play was controversial, and yes it would have gotten reversed. I think one of the more controversial playes was the 2nd touchdown (I think). The play was the pick play that Ill called. This illegal pick is never called in college football. It was a blatant pick ... when they replayed the play, I watched the defensive back that was in coverage. The receiver that did the picking was running his route and changed directions at the last second to get the way of our defensive player. I feel that these 2 plays would have made all of the differance.

Oh well, we made it back to the NC game and it's all good now.

 

[Oh8ch]

. I think it is important to note is that it is not proven that he bet on the games we was refereeing.

I would be amazed to learn he actually bet on any of his games.

But if you owe a casino 400k and you work for Krispy Kreme they must might hit you up for a donut.

When they take you in the back room to find out how you are going to cover your marker some of the lines they most like to hear are:

1. I am a member of the Nevada Gaming Commission.

2. I drive a Brink's truck.

3. I officiate college/pro sporting events.

 

[DaddyBigBucks]

I would be amazed to learn he actually bet on any of his games.

But if you owe a casino 400k and you work for Krispy Kreme they must might hit you up for a donut.

Don't you get enough GPAs for you "Observations" posts???


Seriously though, some have said it, but none have said it better.

 

[methomps]

I would be amazed to learn he actually bet on any of his games.

But if you owe a casino 400k and you work for Krispy Kreme they must might hit you up for a donut.

When they take you in the back room to find out how you are going to cover your marker some of the lines they most like to hear are:

1. I am a member of the Nevada Gaming Commission.

2. I drive a Brink's truck.

3. I officiate college/pro sporting events.

With anyone who has huge debts at legitimate establishments, you always have to accept the possibility that he also did some gambling with illegitimate sources. That is where taint really becomes a risk.

 

[muffler dragon]

[off color remark]If on-the-field activity matched off-the-field; then I would think this guy could qualify as a Pac 10 official. Hell, in a few years, he could maybe be upgraded to Director of Officials like the jackass from the Oregon/Oklahoma debacle.[/off color remark]

 

[notfadeaway]

Stephen Pamon B10 official

Anyone here about how this guy is being investigated for gambling??? BTW he was the crew chief for the Illinois game

 

[Dryden]

At least the article mentioned the fact that Illinois' first drive and score was very controversial, because other than this article, I haven't seen anyone point this out... but then again, why do so it's just Ohio State right?

It flies under the radar because Ohio State fans are bright enough to recognize that there were 60 or 70 other plays that didn't go our way either, so we haven't bitched and whined like Miami fans.

We got beat by a team that played better. I think most OSU fans acknowledge and accept this. The no call on that opening fumble was a huge play, no doubt about it, but it wasn't the only play. Tressel isn't one to make an issue of such things either, and he said as much in his post game back then.

If the head coach, players, and even the fans are willing to dismiss the call and accept that that game was lost in four quarters, why would the press carry on about it?

 

[muffler dragon]

Anyone here about how this guy is being investigated for gambling??? BTW he was the crew chief for the Illinois game

Anyone read a thread before making a post? LOL! :tongue2:

 

[smith403]

Would simplify things...wouldn't it!:)

 

[Nordberg]

Anyone read a thread before making a post? LOL! :tongue2:

Ouch. HaHa

 

[Dryden]

Forget about the gambling, the child abuse, the bankruptcy, and all that other shit for a moment. Putting all that aside, why the hell would the Big 10 assign an official that has lived and worked in Cook County, Illinois for over a decade as the head official of a crew for an Illinois game? Were actual Illinois alumni not available?

WTF?

Pssst, Jim Delany ... you should know a guy is dirty when he gets fired from the Chicago Police Department for being too corrupt a scumbug to even work there.

 

[smith403]

Forget about the gambling, the child abuse, the bankruptcy, and all that other shit for a moment. Putting all that aside, why the hell would the Big 10 assign an official that has lived and worked in Cook County, Illinois for over a decade as the head official of a crew for an Illinois game? Were actual Illinois alumni not available?

WTF?

Pssst, Jim Delany ... you should know a guy is dirty when he gets fired from the Chicago Police Department for being too corrupt a scumbug to even work there.

That was the first thing that caught my attention as well...there were probably some "dead" Chicago guys working the sideline markers :)

 

[pokey]

It flies under the radar because Ohio State fans are bright enough to recognize that there were 60 or 70 other plays that didn't go our way either, so we haven't bitched and whined like Miami fans.

We got beat by a team that played better. I think most OSU fans acknowledge and accept this. The no call on that opening fumble was a huge play, no doubt about it, but it wasn't the only play. Tressel isn't one to make an issue of such things either, and he said as much in his post game back then.

If the head coach, players, and even the fans are willing to dismiss the call and accept that that game was lost in four quarters, why would the press carry on about it?

I agree with you. Human make errors. Officials make officiating errors, players make playing errors, and coaches make coaching errors. Fans often cite questionable officiating to explain why they lost a game; but they fail to recognize that within the game it mostly evens out. The issue is different here because the random nature of questionable officiating calls/noncalls can no longer be believed. This official is ethically comprised and therefore his officiating might have been skewed in such a way to accomplish an end result to his desire. The press should care about corruption, but who knows if they will.

 

[Muck]

BTW there has been some claims on other boards that he didn't actually work the OSU/UI game. Rather he was replaced at the last minute.

Anyone have details on that? Or confirmation that he was in fact on the sidelines.