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ant80;2330296; said:
Why do people have such a boner for having a do-over against M*ch*g*n in a dome?
If they are in separate divisions, the only guaranteed matchup each season will NEVER determine a champion of anything, ever, by definition. If you want a break from the tradtional meaning of The Game, that's it right there.
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Bucky32
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And this is exactly my concern. Wisconsin does a ton of recruiting along the eastern seaboard - New Jersey and Florida especially. Without that constant exposure against teams like OSU and PSU (not to mention Maryland and Rutgers), there's some uncertainty over whether or not that will be able to be maintained.Muck;2330221; said:
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Buckeye Maniac
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ant80;2330296; said:
That is the absolute worst possible outcome. The powers that be finally came to their senses and put an end to that nonsense.
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cincibuck
You kids stay off my lawn!
So Ohio State and Michigan enter The Game undefeated and the winner gets to play a West division team with three losses for the CG.
"It'll never happen."
Look at the SEC and Big 8/12/11/10 CCG games.
Answer: the CCG takes place only IF there's a need to determine a CC.
And get the game the hell out of an arena. JHC, if you're trying to sell the idea that you don't have to go South or West to play football in November stop acting like total wusses. Night games in November and put the championship game in the key city for the conference, Chicago's Soldier Field.
"It'll never happen."
Look at the SEC and Big 8/12/11/10 CCG games.
Answer: the CCG takes place only IF there's a need to determine a CC.
And get the game the hell out of an arena. JHC, if you're trying to sell the idea that you don't have to go South or West to play football in November stop acting like total wusses. Night games in November and put the championship game in the key city for the conference, Chicago's Soldier Field.
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cjmik_75
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cincibuck;2330311; said:
Agreed. It seems so obvious. I would guess the Bears would also have to be willing to let a B1G cg tear up their natural grass field not to mention scheduling with the NFL. Pitt does a game at Heinz field so it's not impossible.
A city capable of handling such an event for students/fan base with an old school feel to it.
But like you said "It'll never happen."
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greyscarlet
Heisman
Never will happen due to logistics but give the team with best conference record the home game (or choice of fields).
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Muck
Enjoy Every Sandwich
BUCKYLE;2330232; said:
Except that with all the realistic targets also being on the east coast the primary imbalance that Bucky is referring to (access to major media markets & recruiting grounds) is going to actually get worse. It also means that eventually Ohio State is not going to be in the B1G Ten, instead they'll be a western outpost of the Big East/ACC.
We're looking at a potential future division of:
Ohio State
TSUN
Sparty
Penn State
Rutgers
Maryland
North Carolina
Virginia
Georgia Tech
FSU/BC/whoever
jlb1705;2330300; said:
Amen.
Bucky32;2330301; said:
You'll take your plains ghetto and you'll like it.
This is your punishment for hiring Bro Bielema.
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bukIpower
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I'm very disappointed in the proposed split up of the teams. This isn't like the big 12 or SEC this is much MUCH worse. Right now there are 6 teams that can really give this league a big boost so going three and three makes much more sense.
OSU, PSU, MSU, Michigan, Neb, and Wisc are all teams that can really represent the conference well potentially and the way things are set right now you are going to get a lot less of our league in big games due to eliminating each other and you'll have other teams that shouldn't be in higher bowl games embarressed because they benefited from a poor conference slate.
We just can't use simple common sense can we? I really hope Gene uses his for once and speaks up because honestly I dont think OSU will struggle either way but our leauge championship game will be embarressing and not to mention the teams that get into higher bowls due to their high conference rankings will be embarressed as well. If i'm Wisconsin I pray to the gods that be that this [Mark May] proposal goes through because with their OOC slate they'll be a 10-13 win team every year and will unrightfully be thrown into the elite schools in the nation due to a screw up somewhere in the offices in Chicago.
USE your [censored]ing head for once Delaney.
OSU, PSU, Indy, MSU, Rutgers, Maryland
scUM, Wisky, Nebraska, Iowa, Minnesota, Illinois
OSU, PSU, MSU, Michigan, Neb, and Wisc are all teams that can really represent the conference well potentially and the way things are set right now you are going to get a lot less of our league in big games due to eliminating each other and you'll have other teams that shouldn't be in higher bowl games embarressed because they benefited from a poor conference slate.
We just can't use simple common sense can we? I really hope Gene uses his for once and speaks up because honestly I dont think OSU will struggle either way but our leauge championship game will be embarressing and not to mention the teams that get into higher bowls due to their high conference rankings will be embarressed as well. If i'm Wisconsin I pray to the gods that be that this [Mark May] proposal goes through because with their OOC slate they'll be a 10-13 win team every year and will unrightfully be thrown into the elite schools in the nation due to a screw up somewhere in the offices in Chicago.
USE your [censored]ing head for once Delaney.
OSU, PSU, Indy, MSU, Rutgers, Maryland
scUM, Wisky, Nebraska, Iowa, Minnesota, Illinois
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In no world is MSU capable of representing the conference well. Wisconsin had their chance three years in a row, in circumstances they won't see again for another decade or more, and failed each time, twice in embarrassing fashion.
Nebraska has been given easy divisions for years now and remained a fringe team at best.
Nebraska has been given easy divisions for years now and remained a fringe team at best.
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This is a 2 team conference, plus or minus one given the year. The majority of this league lacks the tradition, the recruiting talent and the commitment to spending on coaches to compete nationally.
When rich rod moved Morgantown to AA, Sparty should have become a VA Tech level program. Instead they were a flash in the pan and just like the early years when Zook and other second tier programs around the country stole their recruits, now they are letting Kentucky do it again.
Penn state should be a powerhouse. Instead they were reduced to mediocrity in most years. Worse than their spotty performance on the field since joining the league is their embarrassing recruiting. No matter how bad Pitt is they consistently beat PSU for recruits. Even in their brief return to glory in the mid 00s, pa was not their home territory. Maryland was, because down there, the turtles didn't undercut the nits like Pitt does in pa.
The big ten should be better but they simply aren't and I see little evidence to suggest that will be changing.
Stop ruining the few good things you have going in some convoluted plan to protect fairness. The league has /Ade it crystal clear that they are either unable or unwilling to compete on the big stage.
OSU and Michigan in opposite divisions makes no sen#e unless you are the 1% of Midwestern fans who think Sparty should be Michigan's primary rival and must win game each season.
When rich rod moved Morgantown to AA, Sparty should have become a VA Tech level program. Instead they were a flash in the pan and just like the early years when Zook and other second tier programs around the country stole their recruits, now they are letting Kentucky do it again.
Penn state should be a powerhouse. Instead they were reduced to mediocrity in most years. Worse than their spotty performance on the field since joining the league is their embarrassing recruiting. No matter how bad Pitt is they consistently beat PSU for recruits. Even in their brief return to glory in the mid 00s, pa was not their home territory. Maryland was, because down there, the turtles didn't undercut the nits like Pitt does in pa.
The big ten should be better but they simply aren't and I see little evidence to suggest that will be changing.
Stop ruining the few good things you have going in some convoluted plan to protect fairness. The league has /Ade it crystal clear that they are either unable or unwilling to compete on the big stage.
OSU and Michigan in opposite divisions makes no sen#e unless you are the 1% of Midwestern fans who think Sparty should be Michigan's primary rival and must win game each season.
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