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Big Ten Conference Divisions

Muck;2305347; said:
The only problem with that is that Notre Dame is by far the most popular team in the NE, more so than Ohio State, TSUN or even PSU. ND in the B1G would almost certainly need to be in the east while Ohio State and/or TSUN go west.

Something along the lines of:

Ohio State
Nebraska
Wisconsin
Iowa
Minnesota
Northwestern
Illinois
Indiana

TSUN
PSU
ND
Sparty
Purdue
Maryland
Rutgers
Virginia

Edit: Damn you BearBuck for posting while I had the reply window open! lol

Domers and Ped Aggy would need to be in the East. Nebraska is an obvious for the West. That means Ohio State and Michigan will fight over who the third team in the East becomes--with the more consistent media and recruiting exposure along the Eastern seabord. My gut tells me that we'll lose that fight. Domers in the East tips the balance towards Michigan also being in the East.

That's another in a long line of reasons why I really hope that we don't get ND. [censored] them in the ass, yes. Damage them beyond repair, yes. Humiliate them like whore, yes. Destroy the one thing they value most, yes. Then let them go off and be somebody else's problem and cancer.
 
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Buckeyefrankmp;2307026; said:
The Game meaningless? Was The Game meaningless in 2011 when neither team would go to the Championship game if they won or loss? In your scenario where a loss in The Game you could still get to the Rose Bowl, the outcome would not hurt the team. You might want to ask Coach Meyer if that game would be meaningless. Ask Coach Bruce if a loss to that team up north would be alright by him because it is meaningless.
Lets change the situation a little bit. November, 2013. Ohio State and Michigan have already locked up bids to the B1G Title Game. Ohio State wins the regular season match up to move to 12-0. Michigan wins the Big Ten title game. Tell me what that first game meant?

A win in The Game (week 1) wouldn't mean jack if they didn't win The Game (week 2). You think Urban or Woody or Coach Bruce would consider it a win if they won the first one and lost the second?
 
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For me the biggest reason that TSUN and OSU have to be in the same division is that if they are not, sooner or later Delany or the next Big 10 commish will make (prevail?, beg?) us move The Game to October. And that just can not happen.
 
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Abenaki;2307126; said:
Lets change the situation a little bit. November, 2013. Ohio State and Michigan have already locked up bids to the B1G Title Game. Ohio State wins the regular season match up to move to 12-0. Michigan wins the Big Ten title game. Tell me what that first game meant?

A win in The Game (week 1) wouldn't mean jack if they didn't win The Game (week 2). You think Urban or Woody or Coach Bruce would consider it a win if they won the first one and lost the second?

The first game meant a win against Michigan. If that is not good enough, then maybe we should not consider them our rival.
 
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Buckeyefrankmp;2307143; said:
The first game meant a win against Michigan. If that is not good enough, then maybe we should not consider them our rival.

And the second game meant a loss to them totally negating the win. We cannot allow The Rivalry to be threatened by ineptness at B1G headquarters.
 
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I personally don't like OSU/Michigan being in the same division. They are without a doubt the two best teams that can potentially help the B1G with it's reputation. The two schools with the most going for them should not be in the same division IMO and it makes the other side easier of a road to get to the Rose Bowl/Champ game.
 
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bukIpower;2307151; said:
I personally don't like OSU/Michigan being in the same division. They are without a doubt the two best teams that can potentially help the B1G with it's reputation. The two schools with the most going for them should not be in the same division IMO and it makes the other side easier of a road to get to the Rose Bowl/Champ game.

Who gives a shit aout that? The only thing that's kept this conference from becoming the MAC is The Game, and now people want to fuck with it?
 
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bukIpower;2307151; said:
I personally don't like OSU/Michigan being in the same division. They are without a doubt the two best teams that can potentially help the B1G with it's reputation. The two schools with the most going for them should not be in the same division IMO and it makes the other side easier of a road to get to the Rose Bowl/Champ game.

Then go get better teams for the west.

The league wasn't balanced before. Why make that of paramount importance and sacrifice the game as a result?


OSU is not Hoke's must win game. Sparty is. That is absurd
 
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bukIpower;2307151; said:
I personally don't like OSU/Michigan being in the same division. They are without a doubt the two best teams that can potentially help the B1G with it's reputation. The two schools with the most going for them should not be in the same division IMO and it makes the other side easier of a road to get to the Rose Bowl/Champ game.

No, because the other side would still have to beat us or scUM. Well, ok, they would just have to beat us, cause scUM sucks, but that is not really making things easier for them.
 
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Ohio State & TSUN in the same division is one of those beautiful instances were what's best for us (and our rival) is also better for the conference as a whole.

Keeping Ohio State & TSUN together not only preserves The Game it also provides other schools an opportunity to step up and make a name for themselves.

While I'm not a fan of Ohio State, TSUN & PSU all in one division; it does have the side benefit of helping ensure that PSU will remain a broken, irrelevant pile. Nebraska &/or Wisconsin will be happy to instead fill the 'other B1G power' slot that PSU believes is their birthright.
 
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Buckeyefrankmp;2307143; said:
The first game meant a win against Michigan. If that is not good enough, then maybe we should not consider them our rival.
A win we'd enjoy for 6 days. Yes, we could crow about beating them twice in one year should that happen, but lets be honest...win or lose the second game is going to severely devalue the first one.
 
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bukIpower;2307151; said:
I personally don't like OSU/Michigan being in the same division. They are without a doubt the two best teams that can potentially help the B1G with it's reputation. The two schools with the most going for them should not be in the same division IMO and it makes the other side easier of a road to get to the Rose Bowl/Champ game.

Always wanted OSU and Michigan in the same division, but I did have some concerns about balance initially.

Then I realized - there is no strong argument for balanced divisions (not if you are OSU at least). We don't need to design this thing with a goal of the ultimate conference championship game each year. And even if you do you wont always get it.

I am not a fan of CCGs to begin with and they often end up hurting the conference BCS chances.

A relative cake walk after The Game is fine with me.

The only approach I would support with OSU and UM in different divisions is if they designated them each as division champs regardless of record before the season began.
 
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During the 10 year war the Rose Bowl was the reward for winning the game..and the actual Bowl game was mostly a let down for both teams and was a bigger deal foe the Pac10. Neither school would have traded a win over their rival for a Rose Bowl win.. SOOO put them in the same division.
 
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bukIpower;2307151; said:
I personally don't like OSU/Michigan being in the same division. They are without a doubt the two best teams that can potentially help the B1G with it's reputation. The two schools with the most going for them should not be in the same division IMO and it makes the other side easier of a road to get to the Rose Bowl/Champ game.

Good thing the SEC didn't put LSU and Bama in different divisions. Then they'd have to play 3 time a year.
 
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