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Big Ten Conference Divisions

If I were commissioner...
Them: But Penn State needs an eastern partner!!!1!111!!!1!

Me: Hey dickheads, the Earth is round. If you travel east, you'll get to Nebraska & Wisconsin eventually. Those are your eastern partners - now STFU.
 
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OSUScoonie12;1753482; said:
Here is the updated Conference split, according to the Big Ten Blog on ESPN.

Division 1
Michigan
Michigan State
Iowa
Nebraska
Illinois
Northwestern

Division 2
Ohio State
Penn State
Wisconsin
Minnesota
Purdue
Indiana

Division dominoes: Wisconsin, Iowa to split - Big Ten Blog - ESPN

So not only would our biggest rival be in a different division, but so would our second biggest rival (illinois)
 
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Mandel, like virtually every other sportswriter that's written about the topic, gets it right. With one great line, and a good closing thought.

SI.com

Change was inevitable when the Big Ten opted to expand, and I fully expected some rivalries to be altered or severed. But Ohio State-Michigan? Are you kidding me? It's been played the last week of the season all but once since 1935, and it's the league's single most important franchise. You would think conference leaders would go to any length to protect it. Unfortunately, based on Michigan AD Dave Brandon's recent comments, it appears at least one decision-maker thinks he'd be enhancing the rivalry by putting the two in separate divisions, because, "one of the best things that could happen in a given season, in my opinion, is the opportunity to play Ohio State twice."

If we know anything, it's that Jim Delany doesn't do anything unless he sees a potential windfall in it. The league is going to be signing a separate TV deal for the title game, and perhaps he's eyeing some sort of "premium clause" that allows for a spike in rights fees in a year when those two meet. Because there's no question an Ohio State-Michigan championship game would be one of the most coveted properties in sports television. Delany even suggested to ESPN.com on Tuesday: "You could make a good argument that Michigan and Ohio State should never really be playing for a divisional crown. If they're going to play, play for the right to go to the Rose Bowl."

Fair enough, commish, but if you haven't noticed, Switzerland is closer to Pasadena right now than Michigan. Even when the Wolverines do get it going again, they're going to be in a division with at least two other regular contenders (perhaps Penn State and Wisconsin) that will likely prevent any one team from reaching the title game annually. In the years OSU and Michigan don't play for the Rose Bowl -- i.e., most of them -- shouldn't they at least play for something more than a run-of-the-mill conference win? The ACC tried this same thing with Miami and Florida State. Five years later, they've yet to meet in a title game.

Meanwhile, in the Big 12, the Oklahoma-Texas Red River rivalry has seen a huge national resurgence over the past decade, not just because the teams are strong, but because there are tangible stakes: pole position in the Big 12 South. If placed in opposite divisions, Ohio State and Michigan would be playing for much the same stakes -- only they'd be doing so against Penn State or Nebraska instead.

Sometimes leaders make decisions without properly thinking through the issues. This one sounds like a case of over-thinking. Do the right thing, Mr. Delany, Mr. Brandon and Mr. Smith, lest the ghosts of Woody and Bo haunt you in your sleep.
 
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DallasHusker;1753463; said:
Just out of curiosity, you don't see a good chance of "Potential for New rivalries" including OSU-Nebraska?

Well yes but that game wouldn't be played every year under the alignment that I presented which was what I was talking about. It's not so much that I wouldn't want to play Nebraska every year it's just that it seemed more natural for us to play Penn State in the protected divisional game since that's already sort of become a good rivalry series. Hence having you guys play Michigan since that seemed like the best match up left over...historically that is, obviously in the present, you guys could go ahead and get quite a nice jump on the series :p, maybe argue with each other about the 97 national championship etc.
 
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Woody1968;1753494; said:
So not only would our biggest rival be in a different division, but so would our second biggest rival (illinois)

From a money and ratings perspective, having OSU and Michigan in different divisions make the most sense. The potential of having "The Game" played 2 times a year just looks like $$$ to the Big Ten. I'm not opposed to it, that's for sure. I still think OSU-Michigan should be playing for a Rose Bowl or national championship berth. And keeping them in seperate divisions allows that to happen, since they could play for the Big Ten Championship game.
 
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Fiu's guess at an East-West split has tOSU in the West with the Huskers.

CFN

Most likely, you?d have a Big Ten East of Indiana, Michigan, Michigan State, Penn State, Purdue, and Wisconsin, and a Big Ten West of Illinois, Iowa, Minnesota, Nebraska, Northwestern, and Ohio State.

 
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OSUScoonie12;1753507; said:
From a money and ratings perspective, having OSU and Michigan in different divisions make the most sense. The potential of having "The Game" played 2 times a year just looks like $$$ to the Big Ten. I'm not opposed to it, that's for sure. I still think OSU-Michigan should be playing for a Rose Bowl or national championship berth. And keeping them in seperate divisions allows that to happen, since they could play for the Big Ten Championship game.

The estimations that I've seen actually don't have it being LOADS more money when you consider it being split 12 ways
 
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Buckeye86;1753473; said:
I am holding out hope for a Ohio State, Michigan, Wisconsin/ Nebraska, Penn State, Iowa split.

[censored] the new guy, not the rivalry that built the conference into what it is today.

Penn State/Nebraska vs. Ohio State/Michigan has plenty of name recognition/appeal for the championship game.

Plus put Ohio State vs. Michigan and Penn State vs. Nebraska as the last regular season game, and you can keep The Game relatively intact and have the chance of what are basically three conference championship games between 4 top 10 all time winning programs.

The only problem is that Penn State is geographically removed from most of the teams they would be playing, but [censored] Penn State.

The other problem is that set up makes way too much sense so they probably won't do it.
If I'm "the new guy" you refer to, I want to make it clear. As a new guy representing a new school, I'd never suggest you should abandon (or be forced to abandon) The Game as the huge OSU rivalry. Personally, I'd love to see a heated Nebraska-OSU rivalry arise, but not as a replacement for The Game. That's YOUR tradition and after what Texas and the Big 12 did to OUR tradition and rivalry with Oklahoma, I'd never advocate the Big Ten doing that to you guys!
JBaney45;1753503; said:
Well yes but that game wouldn't be played every year under the alignment that I presented which was what I was talking about. It's not so much that I wouldn't want to play Nebraska every year it's just that it seemed more natural for us to play Penn State in the protected divisional game since that's already sort of become a good rivalry series. Hence having you guys play Michigan since that seemed like the best match up left over...historically that is, obviously in the present, you guys could go ahead and get quite a nice jump on the series :p, maybe argue with each other about the 97 national championship etc.
OK, fair enough. Personally, I'd rather see the OSU-Nebraska rivalry arise and grow rather than the "sort of" PSU rivalry you have, but nobody's going to get everything they want when this is all said and done, I'm afraid.
 
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Buckeye86;1753364; said:
Michigan can go 0-12 for the rest of history, and that won't change the intensity or the significance of the rivalry a bit, but moving the game from the last week of the season will instantly destroy it?

This is one of two things that will virtually extinguish The Rivalry as it has been for 3/4 of a century. The second is actually not playing Michigan every year. If I actually have to explain to you why moving The Game from the last regular season game significantly diminishes the impact of The Rivalry, then I'm afraid you may never get it...
 
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MililaniBuckeye;1753534; said:
This is one of two things that will virtually extinguish The Rivalry as it has been for 3/4 of a century. The second is actually not playing Michigan every year. If I actually have to explain to you why moving The Game from the last regular season game significantly diminishes the impact of The Rivalry, then I'm afraid you may never get it...

I agree Mil. That being said, don't you think it's going to be diminished with a championship game REALLY being the last game of the Big Ten season? I do and think this is a no-win situation.
 
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