Big Ten and other Conference Expansion

[CincyInterloper]

If you add schools like UVA and UNC, diluting the TV money is peanuts compared to the BILLIONS you'd make by adding those two in the CIC.

There are some impressive endowments in the ACC as well. UVA has 13.6 billion and UNC has 5.2 billion. Duke has 12.7 billion and ND has 16.7 billion, but screw those guys. Maybe the B1G could charge them a couple billion as a “douche bag” fee to get in.

 

[LovelandBuckeye]

If you add schools like UVA and UNC, diluting the TV money is peanuts compared to the BILLIONS you'd make by adding those two in the CIC.

"But Paaawwwwlllll! We is talkin' football, not skool." - every SEC fan I have met in real life talking about expansion

 

[Woody1968]

Had to search this out. With all the hullabaloo involved in the ACC, irked me more tan a tad that it sounded (to me at least), like the schools were going to choose which conference they were going to....like it was their decision or something. Hadn't seen any sort of rebut from either the SEC or B10, which I thought was cagey, but reading some of the above, am betting all but one or two will either be SEC or B12 before the dust settles. Don't know, but don't believe, any, but ND, NC are AAU members. So, by all that's been holy in the B10 for generations, why would the B10 agree to this? And finally (the Benjamins), why would the presidents agree to dilute their money from the TV revemue, just to include some others? Would bet vcash that the ACC folks would demand to be brought in as fully paid members. PS, as Nebraska is no longer qualified for AAU status are there any rumblings of exiting them?

What is this "hullabaloo" of which you speak?

 

[calibuck]

Well, appears that many of the ACC teams are interested in leaving. FSU has been the noted one, Clemson for another, NC, VaTech, and Miami seem to be wanting out, or have their TV money raised. From what I've read, the exit fee from the ACC conference is a sizeable sum, which no one seems to want to pay. That to me is a hullabaloo, or maybe one calls it a mutiny? Your choice.

 

[Woody1968]

Well, appears that many of the ACC teams are interested in leaving. FSU has been the noted one, Clemson for another, NC, VaTech, and Miami seem to be wanting out, or have their TV money raised. From what I've read, the exit fee from the ACC conference is a sizeable sum, which no one seems to want to pay. That to me is a hullabaloo, or maybe one calls it a mutiny? Your choice.

Hasn't this been the case for 10 years now? FSU and Clemson will either leave or stay, and they'll either get more money or they won't. However, I doubt they would be suing if they didn't have some other conference lined up with at least a handshake deal. For the the other ACC teams, I expect they are just trying to leverage more money from their teevee agreement.

 

[DaddyBigBucks]

There were some who portrayed themselves as insiders who said that something would happen in June, because June 30 was the last date for a vote that did not include the new ACC members. The thinking was that, if those who were to depart could find homes for enough ACC teams to make a majority, they could vote to disband (the obvious and correct assumption being that the incoming ACC members would certainly not vote to disband).

The problem with this thinking is that it was based on the assumption that there are enough teams that would benefit from dissolution to make a majority. Let's be real here: They would all do better in the B1G or SEC, but the real question is, would the Power 2 have them?

The fact that it did not happen before the June 30 deadline suggests strongly that, however many teams the Power 2 would have; it's not enough to comprise a majority in the ACC as constituted last week. Some of the teams that were added... If the B1G wanted them they would have already taken them. Others... I'll get back to you when I stop laughing. The point here is that, those who leave for greener pastures will be few in number, and may have to wait until something comes of the lawsuit or until there is an out-of-court settlement.

Honestly, all of this was obvious to most B1G fans quite some time ago. But there are fans of teams on the east coast who will still think that their team MUST be more important than any podunk little conference from west of the Alleghenies. By the time all of this has shaken out; such people will have found reality to be a very bitter pill indeed.

 

[cincibuck]

At what point do you move from a conference to a conglomerate? The Buckeye schedule is filling up with teams I’d like to see on an ooc sked, but not on an every other year basis.

 

[dragurd]

If you add schools like UVA and UNC, diluting the TV money is peanuts compared to the BILLIONS you'd make by adding those two in the CIC.

Eh if that's your argurment shouldn't they have picked up Cal and Stanford on the cheap? I don;t think school alone is enough anymore UNC has a decent mix of both I'm not sure UVA does

 

[LovelandBuckeye]

The comments are full of CFB retards.

 

[Zurp]

At what point do you move from a conference to a conglomerate? The Buckeye schedule is filling up with teams I’d like to see on an ooc sked, but not on an every other year basis.

I think that's my problem, too. Even if you move to 10 conference games, with 18 teams, you're playing each team an average of every other year. And move to 24 teams, and you aren't even playing them that often. And people talk about a 24-team playoff with 4 6-team divisions. It sounds like 4 6-team conferences, at that point. Which I guess could be fine, but it seems like we're losing touch with what got us here.

 

[Mike80]

Eh if that's your argurment shouldn't they have picked up Cal and Stanford on the cheap? I don;t think school alone is enough anymore UNC has a decent mix of both I'm not sure UVA does

It's not the only argument, but it's the most direct one if we're talking about diluting TV money.

There are other factors - brand size, reach, etc.

 

[Woody1968]

Eh if that's your argurment shouldn't they have picked up Cal and Stanford on the cheap? I don;t think school alone is enough anymore UNC has a decent mix of both I'm not sure UVA does

My understanding is that one of the main reasons USC, and to a lesser extent UCLA bolted the PAC was because of stuff going on with the 2 NOCAL schools, Berkeley in particular, and that any proposal to bring those two in was DOA.

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

My understanding is that one of the main reasons USC, and to a lesser extent UCLA bolted the PAC was because of stuff going on with the 2 NOCAL schools, Berkeley in particular, and that any proposal to bring those two in was DOA.

After the shit the UC Board of Regents played (literally one of them said that they would just wait for UCLA to be seated and then offer Cal an invite as if the current 14 schools wouldn't have a say), there was absolutely no way that the B1G was going to give these clowns a second seat at the table.

 

[ScriptOhio]

The comments are full of CFB retards.

Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State, USC, UCLA, Oregon, Washington 'desperately' want Texas A&M and Notre Dame in B1G

The Big Ten's biggest programs, including Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State, USC, UCLA, Oregon, and Washington, all reportedly 'desperately' want Texas A&M and N

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Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State, USC, UCLA, Oregon, Washington 'desperately' want Texas A&M and Notre Dame in B1G​

The Big Ten's biggest programs, including Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State, USC, UCLA, Oregon, and Washington, all reportedly "desperately" want Texas A&M and Notre Dame to join the B1G according to longtime college football radio host Greg Swaim.

As Swaim reiterates, those programs don't appear keen on bending from the AAU accreditation requirement that could keep FSU and Clemson out of the conference and force them to accept an SEC invite.

"Checked once again this morning to see if there have been any changes to the B1G schools, regarding their interest in adding quality football schools who aren't AAU accredited," Swaim prefaced before saying, "The answer is still the same...sorry FSU and Clemson fans, but it'll be the SEC. If you have the time, call the B1G schools yourselves...or their main sports coverage reporters...they'll tell you the same thing, that to most B10 Presidents AAU definitely does matter.

"It may be stupid to hardcore college football fans, but it is what it is. However, I still hear from several that the Buckeyes, (Michigan), PSU and the four incoming Pac-12 schools desperately want TAMU and of course Notre Dame."

Big Ten will 'definitely have school in Texas by 2026​

As Swaim reported in April, the Big Ten will "definitely" have a school in Texas by the 2026-27 academic calendar.

"Received an e-mail 10 minutes ago from our Chicago B1G source, that said 'The B1G will definitely have a Texas school by 2026,'" Swaim prefaced before saying, "As we reported months ago, TAMU and the B10 have been having serious third party talks for over six months."

That likely means Texas A&M will negotiate an out from the SEC with UT now stealing their Lone Star State shine in the SEC; especially given that the programs with the most influence so badly want the Aggies in the B1G.

Anybody believe this crap?

 

[Mike80]

Anybody believe this crap?

Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State, USC, UCLA, Oregon, Washington 'desperately' want Texas A&M and Notre Dame in B1G

The Big Ten's biggest programs, including Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State, USC, UCLA, Oregon, and Washington, all reportedly 'desperately' want Texas A&M and N

flywareagle.com

Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State, USC, UCLA, Oregon, Washington 'desperately' want Texas A&M and Notre Dame in B1G​

The Big Ten's biggest programs, including Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State, USC, UCLA, Oregon, and Washington, all reportedly "desperately" want Texas A&M and Notre Dame to join the B1G according to longtime college football radio host Greg Swaim.

As Swaim reiterates, those programs don't appear keen on bending from the AAU accreditation requirement that could keep FSU and Clemson out of the conference and force them to accept an SEC invite.

"Checked once again this morning to see if there have been any changes to the B1G schools, regarding their interest in adding quality football schools who aren't AAU accredited," Swaim prefaced before saying, "The answer is still the same...sorry FSU and Clemson fans, but it'll be the SEC. If you have the time, call the B1G schools yourselves...or their main sports coverage reporters...they'll tell you the same thing, that to most B10 Presidents AAU definitely does matter.

"It may be stupid to hardcore college football fans, but it is what it is. However, I still hear from several that the Buckeyes, (Michigan), PSU and the four incoming Pac-12 schools desperately want TAMU and of course Notre Dame."

Big Ten will 'definitely have school in Texas by 2026​

As Swaim reported in April, the Big Ten will "definitely" have a school in Texas by the 2026-27 academic calendar.

"Received an e-mail 10 minutes ago from our Chicago B1G source, that said 'The B1G will definitely have a Texas school by 2026,'" Swaim prefaced before saying, "As we reported months ago, TAMU and the B10 have been having serious third party talks for over six months."

That likely means Texas A&M will negotiate an out from the SEC with UT now stealing their Lone Star State shine in the SEC; especially given that the programs with the most influence so badly want the Aggies in the B1G.

That site is essentially fansided and it is formatted almost exactly the same as fansided, so I'd bet they are linked. It's some idiot spouting bullshit.