Big Ten and other Conference Expansion

[Bucky32]

Ahem...

Shit. "Seth" obviously plagiarized. Fucking Seth.

 

[Abenaki]

Shit. "Seth" obviously plagiarized. Fucking Seth.

Clearly. You think a good idea came from a Michigan fan?


He does some good work with regards to travel and division strengths. I was just eyeballing it and it made sense to me.

 

[Muck]

Yes, it's from MGoBlog, but "Seth" did his homework and makes a lot of good points re: division alignment. I pretty much agree with the divisions he came up with: http://mgoblog.com/content/hokepoints-wants-divisions-consensus

FWIW the last time around the idea of edges & middle divisions was very unpopular with the fans of the schools that would get stuck into them (PSU fans especially). I don't know if adding the two east coast teams will help allay the concerns over having to fly over the rest of the conference to get to to most of the divisional rivals or not.

Also it looks like TSUN is going to try & push to get into the 'eastern' division so that they get more games on the east coast. Since they pushed so hard to get into the western side last time I saw fuck 'em, go rot on the plains with the rest of the schools with no local recruiting grounds.

(Yes I know I've argued for exactly that same type of alignment in the past)

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

In hoping that hockey was at least a small part of the equation for Big Ten expansion, I sure as shit wasn't talking about this madness!!!!

I have to hand it to 'em though. They at least think big.

 

[Muck]

In hoping that hockey was at least a small part of the equation for Big Ten expansion, I sure as shit wasn't talking about this madness!!!!

I have to hand it to 'em though. They at least think big.

I'd rather the B1G offer John Hopkins partial membership for Lacrosse only & let them join the CIC.

 

[PlanetFrnd]

I'd rather the B1G offer John Hopkins partial membership for Lacrosse only & let them join the CIC.

meh, the less east-coast lacrosse douchism, the better

 

[VBSJ]

In hoping that hockey was at least a small part of the equation for Big Ten expansion, I sure as [Mark May] wasn't talking about this madness!!!!

What you need is basically for club teams (Illinois, Indiana, Rutgers, etc.) to become varsity, like Penn State, but it would take a very heavy financial commitment from the university/athletic department.

I'm sure BTN wouldn't mind the extra coverage with more schools playing hockey.

This is similar to how at least one of the next two schools will have a men's lacrosse team, so the Big Ten can start its own men's lacrosse league (w/ at least six schools)

 

[DaveyBoy]

well, when I played lacrosse we were one of only 2 varsity teams in the Midwest. The rule was that the club teams had to supply the kegs of beer.

So I'm all in favor of IU, UI, and RU retaining their club status.

What you need is basically for club teams (Illinois, Indiana, Rutgers, etc.) to become varsity, like Penn State, but it would take a very heavy financial commitment from the university/athletic department.

I'm sure BTN wouldn't mind the extra coverage with more schools playing hockey.

This is similar to how at least one of the next two schools will have a men's lacrosse team, so the Big Ten can start its own men's lacrosse league (w/ at least six schools)

 

[Abenaki]

FWIW the last time around the idea of edges & middle divisions was very unpopular with the fans of the schools that would get stuck into them (PSU fans especially). I don't know if adding the two east coast teams will help allay the concerns over having to fly over the rest of the conference to get to to most of the divisional rivals or not.

Also it looks like TSUN is going to try & push to get into the 'eastern' division so that they get more games on the east coast. Since they pushed so hard to get into the western side last time I saw fuck 'em, go rot on the plains with the rest of the schools with no local recruiting grounds.

(Yes I know I've argued for exactly that same type of alignment in the past)

1) Fuck PSU fans.
2) Fuck Michigan.
3) One of the three of A) Geography B) Rivalries or C) Competitive balance has to give. Which one do they want it to be? As a fan, I'm willing to bend on 1) Competitive balance 2) Geography...in that order. IMO, preserving rivalries should be the priority, and the split divisions get them there there while also preserving competitive balance.

Personally, I'd rather see an East-West split, but I don't think that's gonna happen.

 

[VBSJ]

If the Big Ten is advertising/mentioning the expansion survey (on BTN.com) multiple times on BTN basketball telecasts, the conference must really need or be interested in the results.

But it's free market research for the conference, so I guess why wouldn't they.

 

[Muck]

If the Big Ten is advertising/mentioning the expansion survey (on BTN.com) multiple times on BTN basketball telecasts, the conference must really need or be interested in the results.

But it's free market research for the conference, so I guess why wouldn't they.

I'm sure they'll release a statement something along the lines of...

"Coming as no shock to Commissioner Delaney 102% of respondents voted in favor of the Leaders & Legends division names."

 

[Muck]

Maryland and Rutgers to Join CIC: Announcement & Press Release

The CIC Welcomes the University of Maryland and Rutgers University to Membership

Two More Top-Tier Research Institutions Join Consortium
The University of Maryland and Rutgers University have accepted invitations to join the Committee on Institutional Cooperation, effective July 1, 2013.

Following the Big Ten Council of Presidents/Chancellors approval of Maryland and Rutgers? applications to join the athletic conference, the matter of CIC membership was referred to CIC Provosts for action. The Provosts, who govern the CIC, voted unanimously to invite the University of Maryland and Rutgers University to join the consortium.

The addition of the University of Maryland and Rutgers University will increase CIC membership to 15 institutions, which includes the Big Ten Conference institutions and the University of Chicago. All CIC universities share a very strong research emphasis. Together CIC universities engage in $8.4 billion in funded research each year?the addition of these two universities will push that to $9.3 billion, and will add another 8 million library volumes and over 5,600 more full-time faculty to the collective resources of the consortium. In addition, these new colleagues bring leading-edge collaborative research projects in areas as diverse as biotechnology, transportation, cyber-security, and food safety research.

CIC Chair and Michigan State University Provost and Vice President for Academic Affairs, Kim A. Wilcox said, "We welcome Rutgers University and the University of Maryland, two top-tier public research institutions that share the academic values, aspirations and challenges of the CIC member universities."

Said CIC Executive Director Barbara McFadden Allen, "We are excited about building a bigger, more vibrant collaborative with a larger national footprint."

About the CIC: The CIC is the nation's premier higher education consortium of top-tier research institutions, including the Big Ten Conference members and the University of Chicago. Through collaboration CIC members save money, share assets, and increase teaching, learning and research opportunities. Founded in 1958, CIC members engage in voluntary, sustained partnerships such as library collections and access collaborations; technology collaborations to build capacity at reduced costs; purchasing and licensing collaborations through economies of scale; leadership and development programs for faculty and staff; programs that allow students to take courses at other institutions; and study-abroad collaborations. For more information, please visit www.cic.net or watch a short videohttp://www.buckeyeplanet.com/Home/NewsAndPubs/Multimedia/Videos/CICVideo.aspx on the consortium.

 

[Krenzelicious]

@BeauBishop

Reports out of Florida and Texas say that FSU reached out to B1G...B12 as well. Should B1G get involved. FSU attempting to get AAU status.

SIAP.

 

[sepia5]

@BeauBishop



SIAP.

The CIC is itching to add a circus college.

 

[Muck]

Rutgers sues Big East

Rutgers has filed a lawsuit against the Big East in an attempt to get out of the league's $10 million buyout fee and 27-month waiting period before it can join the Big Ten.

The lawsuit, filed in Middlesex County Court in New Jersey, was reported earlier by Courthouse News Service.

Rutgers contends in its complaint that the $10 million exit fee "arbitrarily applies to some, but not all, of the Big East football schools, and the effect is to penalize certain members if they seek to withdraw."

Rutgers points to the way the Big East allowed Syracuse, Pittsburgh, TCU and West Virginia to leave the league in less than the 27-month waiting period, and alleges the Big East has failed to collect $39.5 million in withdrawal fees from departing schools -- money that was set to be divided among remaining members.

The complaint states: "The court should accordingly enter an order declaring the Bylaws to be void and of no effect as between the parties, permitting Rutgers to withdraw from The Big East prior to July 1, 2015, or in alternative, declaring that The Big East has waived Rutgers' obligation to abide by the 27 months notice provision and the requirement of a withdrawal fee."

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