Big Ten and other Conference Expansion

[BB73]

Here we go again....

Wow.

I'll try to be the first to talk about playoff implications after the potential collapse of the Big 12, this time around.

Four power conferences remain. Four conference champs after the CCG are the playoff teams.

Screw the committee, screw the eye test, screw Notre Dame if they're not in a conference. This would be a real 8-team playoff of the division winners.

 

[Best Buckeye]

I say we do like Bama does and schedule their out of conference teams so we can be unbeaten too. We could use the 2nd,3rd, and scout team to play them.
The Big 12 can still exist after we give them Rutgers, Maryland and a player to be named later.

 

[jwinslow]

Wow.

I'll try to be the first to talk about playoff implications after the potential collapse of the Big 12, this time around.

Four power conferences remain. Four conference champs after the CCG are the playoff teams.

Screw the committee, screw the eye test, screw Notre Dame if they're not in a conference. This would be a real 8-team playoff of the division winners.

It also undercuts the division inequality whining. 3 blue bloods, and even if the West champ is trash, that means you have the easiest "first round" of the playoffs.

 

[JCOSU86]

Adding Texas and Oklahoma to our conference would effectively destroy the essence of who we are. I would hate that, but so much has happened already (the biggest of which in the lessening of the importance of the Rose Bowl, IMHO) that it wouldn't really matter anymore.

 

[Dryden]

Here we go again....

Sweet, I look forward to Ohio State being the first team in the B1G East to get Texas and Oklahoma both as their crossover games the first two years because who cares how stupid the conference makes OSU's schedule, it's all about the benjamins.

 

[AuTX Buckeye]

Sweet, I look forward to Ohio State being the first team in the B1G East to get Texas and Oklahoma both as their crossover games the first two years because who cares how stupid the conference makes OSU's schedule, it's all about the benjamins.

Tejas will definitely be BACK by then

 

[Mike80]

Just say no to Tejas. Poison to every conference they have ever joined.

True - but they've usually been the big boy in every conference they've joined.

They would be one of 5 (Oklahoma, Ohio State, scUM, Penn State) in this proposed new B1G. They wouldn't have the clout over those like they would over the Baylor's and SMU's of the world.

 

[Jaxbuck]

Adding Texas and Oklahoma to our conference would effectively destroy the essence of who we are.

How so anymore than adding Rutgers and Maryland?

I don't hate the idea overall from a football playoff perspective.

The old Big 8 as the new B1G West vs the old Big 2 and Penn State as the B1G east.

What would remain of the current B12 could join up with the AAC or something.

 

[ShowMeBuck]

I've been in the UT/OU camp for a while. Every team has warts including these 2 but there are lots of positives as well and they are pretty obvious. I'm no expert on the subject but the recent conference alignments of the B1G sure seemed like an overture to those 2 schools to me. Purdon't moves east and you have a balanced conference of solid teams on each side and a huge footprint both in terms of recruiting and eyeballs for network revenue. Again, many negatives but loads of positives.

UT and OU to the Big 10. This is what I said in 2014.

Culturally do I like that? Not really. But I don’t like the SEC bias either and this would be a seismic shift in power.

A west which included UT, OU, Nebraska, Iowa, and Wiscy would be unreal and would renew Nebraska’s old rivalries.

The Texas to Chicago to New York area media footprint would be a behemoth. I know money rules everything and that’s why I could see this being the ultimate goal. Making the Big 10 east so lopsided seemed weird in the short term but made sense if landing OU and UT was the long range plan.

 

[jwinslow]

How so anymore than adding Rutgers and Maryland?

I don't hate the idea overall from a football playoff perspective.

The old Big 8 as the new B1G West vs the old Big 2 and Penn State as the B1G east.

What would remain of the current B12 could join up with the AAC or something.

Right now, Michigan still remains the pinnacle of most seasons. That would cease to be true unless OU/UT decline and UM ascends.

Also, the instant OU joins the B1G, their very similar to OSU struggles will suddenly be a deal breaker (like they never were in the 00s).

 

[Jaxbuck]

Right now, Michigan still remains the pinnacle of most seasons. That would cease to be true unless OU/UT decline and UM ascends.

Also, the instant OU joins the B1G, their very similar to OSU struggles will suddenly be a deal breaker (like they never were in the 00s).

The Game would never be anything but the pinnacle to me personally but I could see how the actual B1G CCG would start to overshadow The Game to some (I guess).

Then again, The Game essentially becomes a first round playoff game on top of the rivalry aspect so I'm not 100% sold on it's diminishing.

OU defensive struggles what you are referring to?

 

[Bucklion]

How so anymore than adding Rutgers and Maryland?

I don't hate the idea overall from a football playoff perspective.

The old Big 8 as the new B1G West vs the old Big 2 and Penn State as the B1G east.

What would remain of the current B12 could join up with the AAC or something.

If we go 16, the other conferences will go 16, and if we make a push for TX and OK, you can bet the SEC will too because they have A&M already.

If we were to get TX and OU, I could see the SEC taking Kansas (for basketball and the border war) and maybe either Kansas State or Oklahoma State. Texas Tech is fucked because they’re in the middle of nowhere, no one wants Iowa State or Baylor (for different reasons), West Virginia would make more sense for the ACC, TCU isn’t really a big time player...which leaves Oklahoma State without bedlam (not much of a target), Kansas State which is meh, and Kansas for basketball.

 

[ShowMeBuck]

I’ll also add this. If the playoffs go to 8 and the Big 16 includes OU and UT then it is not very hard to imagine many years with 2 teams in the playoffs. Think about that.

 

[Bucklion]

I could actually envision a scenario with 3 16 team leagues, where we got OU and Oklahoma State, the SEC gets Texas and Kansas, the ACC adds West Virginia and Notre Dame, and then the PAC 12 is left to figure out what leftovers they want to add to Colorado and Utah...could be BYU, Boise State, Texas Tech, Baylor, who knows. But the rest are AAC or MW fodder.

 

[Jaxbuck]

So what would you do with the B1G alignment then?

Add OU and Texas to the west, who do you move back to the east?

I say Purdue geographically speaking.

B1G West
Oklahoma
Texas
Nebraska
Wisconsin
Iowa
Illinois
Minny
Northwestern

B1G east
OSU
tsun
Penn State
Sparty
Purdue
IU
Maryland
Rutgers


Gives each division 3 heavy's, 1-2 middle weights and 3-4 light weights

Do you keep a 9 game schedule? If so the 2 crossover games every year need to be random, get rid of the 'OSU must play Nebraska every year" scheduling.

Just my .02