Big Ten and other Conference Expansion

[Nicknam4]

Why would the Big10 have to split into divisions if they add a 12th team?

 

[Woody1968]

The Big 10 has a 12th school already, the University of Chicago. We should kick them out unless they upgrade their athletic programs - They'll understand, since they are all law and econ people and it would make money for them. Ideally, they should be our 12th team. Notre Dame belongs in the Big East, that's where most of their fan base is, anyway. Army and Navy should also join the Big East. I'm not for kicking Penn State out of the Big 10, they do give us a credible opponent most years.

 

[spurrier]

The Big 10 has a 12th school already, the University of Chicago. We should kick them out unless they upgrade their athletic programs - They'll understand, since they are all law and econ people and it would make money for them. Ideally, they should be our 12th team. Notre Dame belongs in the Big East, that's where most of their fan base is, anyway. Army and Navy should also join the Big East. I'm not for kicking Penn State out of the Big 10, they do give us a credible opponent most years.

You mean "had", right? I was of the belief that U of C withdrew in the early part of the last century.

 

[spurrier]

i have been reading this thread with mild interest and see it is imperative that the new addition requires a high academic standard.

Since ND wont ever do the logical thing and join the big 10, i believe Boston College would be a nice fit. I cant see thier location being a problem since the conference big wigs who want this too happen have stated geography doesnt really matter anyway. why, i dont know.

And to the people who believe that a 12 team conference isnt good because it would mean another division of bowl payouts, i say that is somewhat shortsighted.

Not only do you have the opportunity too split ccg profits, but you have more of a chance too get that second bcs berth on more of a regular basis, thusly getting another 18 million to split. that has to be worth adding another team.

It also makes your conference set up equal with all the rest, accept the wac 10, by having the chance to lose ground or gain ground in a ccg. that sitting home and watching other teams play in a ccg AND benefiting is rediculous.

 

[mross34]

And to the people who believe that a 12 team conference isnt good because it would mean another division of bowl payouts, i say that is somewhat shortsighted.

Not only do you have the opportunity too split ccg profits, but you have more of a chance too get that second bcs berth on more of a regular basis, thusly getting another 18 million to split. that has to be worth adding another team.

The Big 10 has 21 BCS Bowl appearances since its inception
The SEC is second with 19
The Big 12 is third with 17

Since Tressel took over in 2002-03 at OSU and our recent run of success began, the Big 10 has sent the maximum 2 teams into the BCS every single year except 04-05, which happened to be the one down year Tressel has had in his tenure.

Not seeing how a 12th team could make it any better than it's been.

 

[Steve19]

I have an alternative. Throw out Minnesota. Play every team in a true Big Ten. Forget the championship game nonsense.

 

[TheIronColonel]

I think they'd ditch Indiana first, but the point remains the same. I still think if we add a team, Pitt is the most natural choice right now.

 

[jazzman]

I think they'd ditch Indiana first, but the point remains the same. I still think if we add a team, Pitt is the most natural choice right now.

I agree that Pitt would be the best choice. A rivalry game with Penn State and a good hoops team too. Not to mention a solid academic program.

I haven't read all the recent posts on this thread, so pardon me if this is old news.

Following the tOSU's game against Iowa, I happened to meet someone....how should I put it....a person of some standing with the Hawkeyes and he had said that there was an "initial approach" from the Big Ten to the Rutgers program. I am guessing that fell through, as I haven't heard much about it since.

 

[mross34]

Question: when a university joins the Big 10, does just that campus join, or do its satellite campuses join too? Or how about the university system?

I ask because of schools like Texas and Rutgers. Texas doesn't have a medical school, but UT-Dallas and UT-San Antonio do. Many of Rutgers grad school programs are located at Rutgers-Camden and Rutgers-Newark.

Does the Big 10 currently have any schools like this? I see Penn State's med school is in Hershey and I know their law school (which they just bought) is in Carlisle. Are these schools privy to the same benefits of the CIC and AAU that University Park is?

 

[OSU_D/]

I have an alternative. Throw out Minnesota. Play every team in a true Big Ten. Forget the championship game nonsense.

Yep.... throw out the school which finished third among the Big 10 schools in last year's Director's Cup.

Yep.... throw out the school which sits in the best midwest city for jobs other than Chicago.


Nobody will be leaving the Big 10.

 

[MaxBuck]

The Big Ten/CIC would have to build ND into an adequate and eventually into an excellent post-graduate and research university in order for ND to be able to contribute to what the Big Ten/CIC is all about academically.

And this is why faculty support at ND for joining the B11 is so strong. They'd very much like for ND's postgraduate programs to be improved.

 

[MaxBuck]

Why would the Big10 have to split into divisions if they add a 12th team?

They wouldn't have to. The point is that there is no reason to expand if there is no championship game for football, which requires two (minimum) 6-team divisions.

 

[Buckeye Maniac]

Question: when a university joins the Big 10, does just that campus join, or do its satellite campuses join too? Or how about the university system?

I ask because of schools like Texas and Rutgers. Texas doesn't have a medical school, but UT-Dallas and UT-San Antonio do. Many of Rutgers grad school programs are located at Rutgers-Camden and Rutgers-Newark.

Does the Big 10 currently have any schools like this? I see Penn State's med school is in Hershey and I know their law school (which they just bought) is in Carlisle. Are these schools privy to the same benefits of the CIC and AAU that University Park is?

I have a feeling that branches don't receive the funding. A couple pages ago ORD posted the funding for grad programs in the Big Ten and mentioned that Indiana's was so low because they don't have a med school. Their med school is on the IUPUI campus. I'd have to assume that other schools would have the same restrictions with the funding.

 

[Steve19]

If the Big Ten adds a championship game, then The Game will no longer be the last game of the year. It will no longer decide who goes to the top bowl from the Big Ten. It will no longer be a game for "all the marbles".

Personally, I think that is a step back for Ohio State.

 

[sparcboxbuck]

+A LOT.

We'd have to tear down Regenstein Library and rebuild a football stadium on the site.

And we'd have to get rid of this thing:

Just kidding. Have lived in Chicago since '95 and finally checked this off my "Things to see" list this year.