Big Ten and other Conference Expansion

[cincibuck]

I think we'll soon see The Parochial Conference:

Notre Dame
BYU
Texas Christian
Southern Methodist
Ouachita Baptist
Boston College
Pepperdine
Islamic American University
Yeshiva
Fordham

They'll petition for immediate BCS conference status based upon the concept of religious tolerance. (Of course, IAU and Notre Dame will first need to demonstrate that they have competent football programs.)

Baylor and Wake Forest are both Baptist. Northwestern has religious roots. Boston College -- Oh, and the College of Cardinals.

 

[Mrstickball]

Don't forget Oral Roberts University. They has a mean baskitball program!

 

[MaliBuckeye]

Duke and Vandy are both Methodist schools (historically).

Actually the WCC is trying to dump Pepperdine and pick up Seattle U to become an all Catholic league...

 

[bassbuckeye07]

ND already has that in the Big East (minus the FB schools)...although I too was thinking of the potential of some sort of strategic partnership between BYU & ND (and perhaps a few other like minded institutions) for football.

Yeah cause Mormons and Catholics get along very well.... except that apostate accusation from Joseph Smith..... Oh and then the Vatican saying that Mormons are not Christian nor are there baptisms valid... football may be the start of an ecumenical council of sorts

 

[RugbyBuck]

Oral Roberts?

 

[Muck]

Yeah cause Mormons and Catholics get along very well.... except that apostate accusation from Joseph Smith..... Oh and then the Vatican saying that Mormons are not Christian nor are there baptisms valid... football may be the start of an ecumenical council of sorts

*shrug* They've have no problems scheduling on the field series in the past. Both schools are capable of separating the doctrinal issues of their parent churches from the pragmatic issues of handling business endeavors.

 

[Deety]

I think we'll soon see The Parochial Conference:

Notre Dame
BYU
Texas Christian
Southern Methodist
Ouachita Baptist
Boston College
Pepperdine
Islamic American University
Yeshiva
Fordham

They'll petition for immediate BCS conference status based upon the concept of religious tolerance. (Of course, IAU and Notre Dame will first need to demonstrate that they have competent football programs.)

Heh... this would bring a whole new dimension to the idea of the bandwagon fan. After touchdowns, they can go for two soul conversions.

 

[rmb421]

*shrug* They've have no problems scheduling on the field series in the past. Both schools are capable of separating the doctrinal issues of their parent churches from the pragmatic issues of handling business endeavors.

Exactly. I'm not sure that BYU requires its football players to be Mormon, but the players are expected to behave accordingly. ND recruits more non-Catholics to play football than Catholics, it seems. I remember when they recruited a Jewish quarterback. I don't think religion would play any role whatsoever in what these programs decide to do in the future.

 

[cincibuck]

Exactly. I'm not sure that BYU requires its football players to be Mormon, but the players are expected to behave accordingly. ND recruits more non-Catholics to play football than Catholics, it seems. I remember when they recruited a Jewish quarterback. I don't think religion would play any role whatsoever in what these programs decide to do in the future.

Don't be too hard on Irish and the Mormons -- it took a serious beat down -- in Tuscaloosa -- on the Tide by the USC Trojans and then an NCAA Championship loss to the Cotton Nash UK Wildcats at the hands of Nevil Schutte and the Miners of UTEP to convince Bear, the Baron and the SEC that it was time for integration.

 

[Emperor Brutus]

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/cougars/50134064-88/west-mountain-state-league.html.csp

For a minute there, it appeared the Mountain West Conference might be on its death bed.
Not anymore.
Hours after news broke that the Brigham Young Cougars were joining the Utah Utes in abandoning the league they helped create a decade ago, the Mountain West moved swiftly Wednesday to assure its survival by inviting Fresno State and Nevada to join from the Western Athletic Conference.

 

[bassbuckeye07]

*shrug* They've have no problems scheduling on the field series in the past. Both schools are capable of separating the doctrinal issues of their parent churches from the pragmatic issues of handling business endeavors.

I was not serious... Many Catholics look at ND as secular anyway

 

[jlb1705]

Boise State couldn't get out of the WAC fast enough. All the credible MWC teams that were already there are leaving now, and are being replaced by the teams Boise State was escaping in the first place.

How are those future schedules looking now, Boise State? Have fun in the MWAC!

 

[Piney]

Guess Frank the Tank sees things like I did, but says it a shitload better than me

BYU Independence Day and How It Helps the BCS Conferences ? FRANK THE TANK’S SLANT

Let?s list out the potential scenarios:
SCENARIO A: BYU stays in the MWC. In 2 years, the MWC meets the BCS AQ numerical criteria and the BCS conferences decide to let the conference into the party. This means that the BCS conferences have to give up at least $18 million per year and an at-large bowl slot.
SCENARIO B: BYU stays in the MWC. In 2 years, the MWC meets the BCS AQ numerical criteria, but the BCS conferences decide to keep the MWC on the outside because it makes zero financial sense to invite them in. Sen. Hatch raises a political and legal shitstorm unlike anything seen before and puts the entire BCS system in jeopardy.
SCENARIO C: BYU becomes a football independent, but the BCS conferences don?t give the school a Notre Dame-type deal. Sen. Hatch raises a political and legal shitstorm unlike anything seen before and puts the entire BCS system in jeopardy.
SCENARIO D: BYU becomes a football independent and the BCS conferences extend the school a Notre Dame-type deal. With both Utah and BYU now within the BCS system, Sen. Hatch suddenly has a new-found love for the BCS bowls and Washington leaves college football alone entirely. Meanwhile, it cuts the legs out from under the MWC and any other viable non-AQ upgrade possibility.
I don?t know about you, but it looks like paying BYU a couple of million bucks per year as an independent under Scenario D in order to preserve a cartel of hundreds of millions of dollars, extinguish its most prominent opponent in Washington AND destroy the MWC?s chances of ever moving up to AQ status makes a whole lot of business and political sense if you?re running the BCS.

http://frankthetank.wordpress.com/

 

[dragurd]

I doubt one senator from Utah can do much against the BCS at this point with all the backing they have.

 

[BB73]

I don't know about you, but it looks like paying BYU a couple of million bucks per year as an independent under Scenario D in order to preserve a cartel of hundreds of millions of dollars, extinguish its most prominent opponent in Washington AND destroy the MWC's chances of ever moving up to AQ status makes a whole lot of business and political sense if you're running the BCS.

I could see the BCS agreeing to give BYU an automatic BCS bid in they finish in the top-8 of the BCS standings (same as ND), but I'd be surprised if they pay them annually like they do ND.

For those that don't know ND gets about $1.3 million annually, but only receives about $4.5 million if they actually make a BCS bowl - that's the amount a conference receives for their 2nd BCS team, as opposed to about $18 million that gets paid to each AQ conference for their first team. This means that ND comes out behind if they make a BCS bowl once during the 4-year agreement.

Army and Navy, the only other current FBS independents, receive about $100,000 annually from the BCS. I'd expect BYU to get an amount much closer to that than anywhere near what ND gets.

BCS.revenue