Big Ten and other Conference Expansion

[Woody1968]

LMAO @ the comments! The basic jist is...

"These guys are full of shit - if Texas were to go anywhere, it' would be to the SEC!"

Ummm... no. Texas actually has some self-respect academically and would never join up with a conferenece comprised of Florida, Vandy and ten ri-tard schools.

The academic dollars pale in comparison, and in athletic dollars the Big Ten also has a slight advantage that would only grow with league expansion. The SEC has another 13 years left on their deal with ESPN, which means it would take them a while to catch up to the Big Ten's move. In the meantime, any conference expansion would seemingly result in a smaller piece of the pie for any existing SEC schools until the negotiation window opens again in the 2020s.

In my estimation, Texas would join the Big Ten, join the Pac 10 or try to hold together the Big 12 before they would go to the SEC.

Yeah, I agree Texas isn't going to the SEC - I could see Oklahoma going there first.

 

[BuckeyeNation27]

The burden of proof isn't on me, it is on the people who think that Texas is considering it.

How about a link where someone from the Texas camp actually says they have interest in the Big 10? I'll give you a hint: There aren't any. There are tons of articles out there, however, where people in the Texas camp clearly state they are not interested.

Then it should be easy to provide a link instead of asking for the impossible. Of course Texas isn't publically saying they're ready to join.

 

[jlb1705]

Texas AD: Big 12 works, no talks with Big Ten - ESPN
Texas Not Interested in Big Ten

Both of these quote the Athletic Director/Department. I seriously trust them more than an anonymous source that the source in my second article directly refutes. Again, the burden of proof is on you. Texas has stated they aren't interested. They have stated it clearly.

And Nick Saban said he was going to continue to coach the Dolphins.

The last person I believe is the person or party that might or might not be involved in a sensitive negotiation. Coaches and ADs lie about this kind of stuff all the time.

You're the only one who thinks that proof is necessary. It's just speculation. I don't recall anybody on here saying "Texas is definitely interested" I've seen people say "Texas should be interested". That's an important difference.

The only proof we're going to get in this whole expansion deal is when there's an official announcement. Short of that, we can only really discuss what's plausible.

 

[Mike80]

Then it should be easy to provide a link instead of asking for the impossible. Of course Texas isn't publically saying they're ready to join.

And Nick Saban said he was going to continue to coach the Dolphins.

The last person I believe is the person or party that might or might not be involved in a sensitive negotiation. Coaches and ADs lie about this kind of stuff all the time.

You're the only one who thinks that proof is necessary. It's just speculation. I don't recall anybody on here saying "Texas is definitely interested" I've seen people say "Texas should be interested". That's an important difference.

The only proof we're going to get in this whole expansion deal is when there's an official announcement. Short of that, we can only really discuss what's plausible.

Thank you gentlemen.

 

[Woody1968]

Then it should be easy to provide a link instead of asking for the impossible. Of course Texas isn't publically saying they're ready to join.

And I did.

Missouri and Nebraska have had no problem saying that they would listen to an offer. Texas on the other hand, stated the opposite, and have taken steps to hold the big 12 together if any of the other teams decide to bolt. I don't think it can get much clearer than that.

 

[Woody1968]

And Nick Saban said he was going to continue to coach the Dolphins.

The last person I believe is the person or party that might or might not be involved in a sensitive negotiation. Coaches and ADs lie about this kind of stuff all the time.

You're the only one who thinks that proof is necessary. It's just speculation. I don't recall anybody on here saying "Texas is definitely interested" I've seen people say "Texas should be interested". That's an important difference.

The only proof we're going to get in this whole expansion deal is when there's an official announcement. Short of that, we can only really discuss what's plausible.

I didn't say that proof was necessary. I said they aren't interested. They have made statemnts that they aren't interested. Other schools are interested. They have said they have interest. If I was Texas, I would say I was interested, if nothing else, to try and get more of the Big 12 pie.

 

[BuckeyeNation27]

And I did.

Missouri and Nebraska have had no problem saying that they would listen to an offer. Texas on the other hand, stated the opposite, and have taken steps to hold the big 12 together if any of the other teams decide to bolt. I don't think it can get much clearer than that.

"40 fucking minutes later" you did.

No offense to Missouri or Nebraska fans, but they're not Texas. Texas isn't going to show their cards.

Instead of acting like it's 100% fact that Texas has completely rejected the B10, and that the B10 has officially moved on...you can just say you personally don't believe it will happen.

 

[jlb1705]

If Texas were interested, I don't think the political situation in their state would allow them to state it publicly like Nebraska and Missouri are free to.

 

[Woody1968]

"40 fucking minutes later" you did.

No offense to Missouri or Nebraska fans, but they're not Texas. Texas can't afford to show their cards.

Instead of acting like it's 100% fact that Texas has completely rejected the B10, and that the B10 has officially moved on...you can just say you personally don't believe it will happen.

Texas has a lot more bargaining power than missouri or nebraska. They have the ability to say whatever they want. The Big 12 will bend over backwards to keep them. It makes MORE sense for them to say that they are interested even if they aren't.

"40 fucking minutes" later? I'm not the buckeyeplanet librarian. It isn't my duty to provide links to people who can google, when the first story that pops up quotes Dobbs.

 

[CHU]

It's actually funny to look at the map of states in respect to voting on ESPN.com in regards to should the Big Ten change its name if it expands.

 

[Woody1968]

If Texas were interested, I don't think the political situation in their state would allow them to state it publicly like Nebraska and Missouri are free to.

So are you saying that the Texas legislature and government would forbid the University from trying to use whatever means it has at its disposal to negotiate a deal where it would get more money? I have a hard time believing it.

 

[BuckeyeNation27]

Texas has a lot more bargaining power than missouri or nebraska. They have the ability to say whatever they want. The Big 12 will bend over backwards to keep them. It makes MORE sense for them to say that they are interested even if they aren't.

"40 fucking minutes" later? I'm not the buckeyeplanet librarian. It isn't my duty to provide links to people who can google, when the first story that pops up quotes Dobbs.

When you're the one making factual statements you need to be the one providing the link. That's kind of how it works.

I personally don't think USC is going to get anything from the NCAA. But I'm not in that thread claiming my opinion as 100% fact. I'm not there linking quotes from people inside USC who have it in their best interests to flat out lie. That's because I understand how opinions work on the internet.

 

[Mike80]

So are you saying that the Texas legislature and government would forbid the University from trying to use whatever means it has at its disposal to negotiate a deal where it would get more money? I have a hard time believing it.

You obviously don't understand Texas politics....


(was that Tibor-ish enough??? anyone???)

 

[Woody1968]

When you're the one making factual statements you need to be the one providing the link. That's kind of how it works.

I personally don't think USC is going to get anything from the NCAA. But I'm not in that thread claiming my opinion as 100% fact. I'm not there linking quotes from people inside USC who have it in their best interests to flat out lie. That's because I understand how opinions work on the internet.

1. I was responding to the many posters on here who think that it is a foregone conclusion that Texas is a) invited and b) interested.

2. I provided a link that quotes a far more reliable source than Skippy who cleans the texas bathroom's cousin's baby mama, who called some radio station in Kansas.

3. What incentive does Dobbs have to lie? Why is Texas trying to get their own television deal? I mean, it seems pretty clear to me.

 

[Woody1968]

Lots of discussion about Texas starting its own athletic TV network, thereby "negating" potential advantages to joining the B11. I think Texas is playing hard to get. They may be using us as leverage to get the Big Twelve to quit their whining about UT getting the lion's share of revenue from that conference.

This is the quote I initially responded to.