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Big Ten and other Conference Expansion

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Which Teams Should the Big Ten Add? (please limit to four selections)

  • Boston College

    Votes: 32 10.2%

  • Cincinnati

    Votes: 19 6.1%

  • Connecticut

    Votes: 6 1.9%

  • Duke

    Votes: 21 6.7%

  • Georgia Tech

    Votes: 55 17.6%

  • Kansas

    Votes: 46 14.7%

  • Maryland

    Votes: 67 21.4%

  • Missouri

    Votes: 90 28.8%

  • North Carolina

    Votes: 39 12.5%

  • Notre Dame

    Votes: 209 66.8%

  • Oklahoma

    Votes: 78 24.9%

  • Pittsburgh

    Votes: 45 14.4%

  • Rutgers

    Votes: 40 12.8%

  • Syracuse

    Votes: 18 5.8%

  • Texas

    Votes: 121 38.7%

  • Vanderbilt

    Votes: 15 4.8%

  • Virginia

    Votes: 47 15.0%

  • Virginia Tech

    Votes: 62 19.8%

  • Stay at 12 teams and don't expand

    Votes: 27 8.6%

  • Add some other school(s) not listed

    Votes: 25 8.0%
  • Total voters
    313
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RugbyBuck;1635186; said:
I have been reading through the thread and other than the odd rant about Notre Lame haven't contributed anything. Thanks for contributing to the level of discussion, glenn. ORD, LBJ and the others needed someone on their intellectual level.

As for BigTen proactivity, I agree that change is a'coming and we need to be ready, but wonder if we should let the SEC take the first step. Texas isn't going to go with them, but I don't know that they would jump first to us or the Pac10 either. It's, I imagine, a better sell to the less progressive wing of the Texas family if the SEC steals another school from the Big12 first. After that, UT would be freed up to go wherever makes the most sense. I know this has been discussed above with various youtube links and fantasy maps, but I just have a hard time seeing Texas pulling off a preemptive jump to the Big10. All that said, we should have the paperwork drawn up and ready to sign as soon as the SEC goon squad goes on its panty raid for the Aggies or whomever else they can sign up.
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good grief, rugby, i'm not on their level. walking wounded here.

i don't see an a&m jump being the igniter in this powder keg. the one i worry about is missou. if they go to the big ten, then the only way i see us going with you guys is if there is a big realignment or a 14 or 16-team build up. my worry is that mo to b10=tx to p10. i think some biggies down here really want to see us in the pac-10. some of those same biggies expected us to hire gary barnett, not mack brown. they can learn to feel ok about not getting their way, but i'm afraid that if the b10 doesn't push it, we may get away. i don't mind us in the pac-10, but the thought of us not getting into a more suitable place, especially academically, doesn't sit well with me.

by the way, are you guys following this supposed story? this comes from the nebraska wing of barking carnival.

Barking Carnival — Blog — Carl Pelini "News"
 
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me, too, muff, but the stoops trip is a matter of record. bama is preparing for a national title game. do you think they would welcome a howdy visit right now?

more: two defenses really took us to the wall this past season: oklahoma and nebraska. isn't it interesting that these are the two supposed visitors to bama?
 
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glenn;1635199; said:
me, too, muff, but the stoops trip is a matter of record. bama is preparing for a national title game. do you think they would welcome a howdy visit right now?

more: two defenses really took us to the wall this past season: oklahoma and nebraska. isn't it interesting that these are the two supposed visitors to bama?
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It is interesting. I just hope that it's not entirely what's being perceived. I'd like to continue to think well of Bo. I understand your thoughts on the matter completely.
 
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I think any expansion proposal that does not include Texas is a disappointment. I wouldn't mind having schools like Missouri, Nebraska, Pitt, or Syracuse either, but only as part of a package that adds three institutions rather than just one. In my mind, none of those four bring enough to the table on their own to make it worthwhile.
 
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muffler dragon;1635202; said:
It is interesting. I just hope that it's not entirely what's being perceived. I'd like to continue to think well of Bo. I understand your thoughts on the matter completely.
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muff, that isn't about bo. it's about his brother, carl, who is the dc at neb, i think.

absolutely agree, jlb.

cursory look at barking carnival doesn't turn up the stoop/pelini visit discussion. it wasn't a post of its own or was only a hot topic. i don't remember which. if it was buried in a post it can be the dickens to find, and that site only makes available the most recent hot topics. i'll keep my ear to the ground.

we can be sure that the texas coaching staff knows whether the pelini trip took place. if it did, it won't be ignored.

more: i just realized you were talking about the alleged bo trip to bama. sorry.
 
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interesting thing about bo. apparently he is still saying they got robbed. doctor tom osborne spit a lot of venom at the conclusion of the game, i have read, but the word is he called mack brown the next morning to apologize.

crazy thing is that all pelini needs to do is review the tape. the game was not over. reminds me of an ou interception in the end zone that was disallowed a couple of years ago. sooner fans and newspapers went nuts. what did stoops say? not an interception. kid didn't control it when he hit the ground. he understands the game. what's wrong with bo?

link to last drive of the game so you can decide for yourself. you understand the game.

Final Texas Drive
 
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glenn;1635212; said:
interesting thing about bo. apparently he is still saying they got robbed. doctor tom osborne spit a lot of venom at the conclusion of the game, i have read, but the word is he called mack brown the next morning to apologize.
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Disappointing if true. Bo was a player and has been a coach, and a damn good one, long enough to know that you don't ever leave the game in the hands of the officials in the first place.
 
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you're right, dryden. it's bad for us all when the officials get involved. bad for the game, too. but when the officials step in and the tape shows they are right, we all need to be adult and accept it. i assume you looked at that video. what do you think?

more: i saw somewhere somebody making a comment that the officials made a rare move to help the horns win. baloney. pay attention to it in the games and you'll realize that they frequently have time put on the clock. they watch for that. usually, though, it happens at a point that the time isn't critical, so we don't pay much attention.
 
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glenn;1635275; said:
you're right, dryden. it's bad for us all when the officials get involved. bad for the game, too. but when the officials step in and the tape shows they are right, we all need to be adult and accept it. i assume you looked at that video. what do you think?
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I think the same now as I did when I watched the game live. Bo should not be complaining about the officials, he should instead be out on a football field with his place kicker making the kid run gassers until next September for kicking off out of bounds. Colt McCoy is good enough on his own. You don't need to spot him an extra 20 to 25 yards.
 
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believe me, i know how you guys feel. we feel that way about the guys who have been hosses for us, too. but we expect our players to behave like men. go check out on the horn boards what is being said about roy williams at dallas lately.
 
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For the past couple weeks I've been brining up Texas whenever a Big Ten expansion thread pops up on the ESPN boards, (yea, I know, eww) and they seem to finally be picking up on it among the board regulars. There are several Texas fans that really want it to happen over there too.
 
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hey, guys.

maybe this doesn't seem to relate to conference expansion, but thought you might like to read the thoughts of a couple of the best posters in longhorn blogdom regarding what they believe are the chances for your new conference member to come in on a high note. see i did relate it to conference expansion.

first hopeful:

http://www.burntorangenation.com/2010/1/6/1236262/why-texas-will-beat-alabama

and then not so:

Barking Carnival — Blog — Texas-Alabama: Faith, Defense, and Phlogiston

these guys aren't your average rah-rah posters. both of these guys gouge our team and our coaches when they see it that way.

my take is much like the first one. peter bean and i swap emails occasionally (edit: though, way mostly its me sending him some pearl of wisdom), and i've said several things to him along the lines of a couple of his points, most notably the delight that our ccg was such a struggle. i've mentioned before to you guys that i think our 2005 big win was set up by the regular season game at the shoe. our ccg this year wasn't the equal of that game, developmentally, but it will have to do.

as i've said, i like our chances, but, really, i don't know squat.


more: peter bean is one sharp dude. i don't mean to suggest he gets any ideas from me. just that he and i see a lot of things in similar ways. for example, he has a major bullet item dedicated to malcolm williams and tre' newton, the two guys i mentioned not long ago to you when i linked highlights from our ccg. i don't think i've said anything to peter about that regarding the upcoming game, though, i've beat the drum like that texas tech guy all season regarding newton. actually, i started during two-a-days when none of us had any idea tre' would do anything to speak of this year.

more more: this is a thread from shaggy bevo before i decided the place was too juvenile to post there. this thread began life as a report from the second of two open practices to start two-a-days that our prime candidate for flex tight end was lost for the season to a knee injury. i was there and always hate to see any kid hurt. i have kids. scroll down about halfway when the discussion turns to who can protect colt this season, when i comment that tre' was my dark horse for running back some time in his career with us. chris ogbonnaya always looked good to me, but he didn't do much until his senior year when he became our surprise starter. chris is a rookie bit-player for the rams right now.

anyway, i pretty much got blasted for suggesting that tre' would ever amount to anything. at that time i had no expectation to hear much from him this year, but i knew he had been a cog in an offense pretty similar to ours that won a couple of high school state championships. i had heard he was pretty slow but reliable. after seeing him play, i no longer think of him as particularly slow. it's enjoyable now for me to read the responses from the other brainiacs. by the way bighornfan32 (who i still suspect is actually a fan of some other team, based on reading a bunch of his posts) did later eat some crow after tre' started a game for us. watch tre' thursday and then read some of these guys' comments.

http://www.shaggybevo.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=43663&start=0
 
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