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Folanator;1707858; said:
While it was not off the charts, they did explain everything.

Pulling a story-within-a-futuristic-dream finale out of their asses (simply because the show got cancelled quickly) counts as an explanation? That was not an ending that grew organically out of the series (and was definitely not the same as the British version) -- it was a completely ludicrous "deus ex machina" intended only to sell more DVD box sets.
 
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exhawg;1707822; said:
I did enjoy Life on Mars. That brings me to my second point on tv shows. I don't care how short a shows run is, please give it an ending. Life on Mars only ran for one season, but at least they wrapped up the whole thing. I hate nothing more than a show getting cancelled without a finale. i.e. Carnivale on HBO. I think 2 things need to happen. Networks need to announce that they are going to pull the plug on a series before the last episode or 2 are written so that they can tie up any loose ends. If that doesn't happen then the show gets a 2 hours finale to take care of this. I can't even remember all of the shows I've watched that got cancelled after a year or two with no closure. It makes it hard to start watching a new show when it could get cancelled without telling the whole story. i.e. Flashforward
I would also like to see more shows do what ABC did with Lost and set an end date a year or two ahead of time. That would give the writers the ability to create enough story that everything gets cleaned up in the end. I think this would have been good for a show like Heroes that started good in the first season and then went downhill fast when the show seamed to have no direction. Another example is how The X Files continued on for 2-3 years longer than it should have. If a show does well in the first season set a date and say you have 4 or 5 seasons to tell your story. That way we'd have less Alias, more Lost.

Reminds me of the ABC show a few summers ago Traveler, I really liked the show, but it got canceled, and the "series" finale ended in a cliff hanger, I was severely pissed.
 
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BayBuck;1707865; said:
Pulling a story-within-a-futuristic-dream finale out of their asses (simply because the show got cancelled quickly) counts as an explanation? That was not an ending that grew organically out of the series (and was definitely not the same as the British version) -- it was a completely ludicrous "deus ex machina" intended only to sell more DVD box sets.

Maybe, it made perfect sense to me at the time. But, that might have been the blotter acid also. :)

I loved MASH, but the ending was a total Alan Alda rant. War is bad, we abused the locals, boo hoo hoo. Sorry, Alan Alda makes me want to pull my teeth out with a hammer.
 
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The "Monk" finale with Craig T. Nelson was a good one last year, it finally closed the book on Trudy's killer and gave all the main characters a nice happily-ever-after. Monk deserved a little happiness after all those years.
 
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FCollinsBuckeye;1707805; said:
I forgot about that one. Man, what a great show. I think the fact that Kevin and Winnie *didn't* end up living happily ever after made the series finale that much better.
The closing monologue was just sublime...

Once upon a time, there was a girl I knew who lived across the street. Brown hair, brown eyes. When she smiled, I smiled. When she cried, I cried. Every single thing that ever happened to me that mattered, in some way, had to do with her. That day, Winnie and I promised each other that, no matter what, that we'd always be together. It was a promise full of passion, and truth, and wisdom. It was the kind of promise that could only come from the hearts of the very young.


The next day Winnie and I came home, back to where we'd started. It was the fourth of July in that little suburban town. Somehow, though, things were different. Our past was here, but our future was somewhere else. And we both knew, sooner or later, we had to go. It was the last July I ever spent in that town. The next year after graduation, I was on my way. So was Paul. He went to Harvard, of course, studied law. He's still allergic to everything. As for my father, well...we patched things up. Hey, we were family, for better or worse. One for all...and all for one.


Karen's son was born that September. I gotta say, I think he looks like me. Poor kid. Mom, she did well. Businesswoman, board chairman, grandmother, cooker of mashed potatoes. The Wayner stayed on in furniture. Wood seemed to suit him. In fact, he took over the factory two years later, when Dad passed away. Winnie left the next summer to study art history in Paris. Still we never forgot our promise. We wrote to each other once a week for the next eight years. I was there to meet her when she came home...with my wife, and my first son, eight months old.
Like I said, things never turn out exactly the way you planned.


Growing up happens in a heartbeat. One day you're in diapers, next day you're gone. But the memories of childhood stay with you for the long haul. I remember a place, a town, a house...like a lot of houses. A yard like a lot of other yards, on a street like a lot of other streets. And the thing is, after all these YEARS, I still look back...with wonder.
 
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as fond as my memories are of the wonder years, that show was truly underrated. in spite of being set in the 60s, the series will still be relevant decades from now.

and, yes, that monologue is sublime. there must be a mote in my eye.
 
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I liked the seinfeld finale with the rehashing of all the characters. Poppi, Man hands, Terri Hatcher, "Marble Rye", etc....


Kinda funny the show ended with Jerry asking George the same question he asked him when the series started....
 
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Yes the X-files went on too long for it's own good. Stories got very stale. But it did have one perk. Got to see Jillian Anderson for two more years.

Yes I am a sucker for red heads!


exhawg;1707822; said:
I did enjoy Life on Mars. That brings me to my second point on tv shows. I don't care how short a shows run is, please give it an ending. Life on Mars only ran for one season, but at least they wrapped up the whole thing. I hate nothing more than a show getting cancelled without a finale. i.e. Carnivale on HBO. I think 2 things need to happen. Networks need to announce that they are going to pull the plug on a series before the last episode or 2 are written so that they can tie up any loose ends. If that doesn't happen then the show gets a 2 hours finale to take care of this. I can't even remember all of the shows I've watched that got cancelled after a year or two with no closure. It makes it hard to start watching a new show when it could get cancelled without telling the whole story. i.e. Flashforward
I would also like to see more shows do what ABC did with Lost and set an end date a year or two ahead of time. That would give the writers the ability to create enough story that everything gets cleaned up in the end. I think this would have been good for a show like Heroes that started good in the first season and then went downhill fast when the show seamed to have no direction. Another example is how The X Files continued on for 2-3 years longer than it should have. If a show does well in the first season set a date and say you have 4 or 5 seasons to tell your story. That way we'd have less Alias, more Lost.
 
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leroyjenkins;1708260; said:
I liked the seinfeld finale with the rehashing of all the characters. Poppi, Man hands, Terri Hatcher, "Marble Rye", etc....


Kinda funny the show ended with Jerry asking George the same question he asked him when the series started....

Good call: "The second button makes or breaks a shirt." Rule #1 for Seinfeld and Larry David was "no hugging, no learning" and ending just where they started lived up to that rule. There was literally no development of their characters' mentalities throughout the series.

I know a lot of people didn't like the Seinfeld finale, and it was a little contrived, but what I liked was that there were all sorts of rumors about what was going to happen (Jerry tells Elaine he loves her, he and George move to LA for the show, the gang goes to Paris) and the writers head-faked at each of those rumors before turning it into a curtain call for all the memorable side characters over the years.
 
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BayBuck;1708329; said:
Good call: "The second button makes or breaks a shirt." Rule #1 for Seinfeld and Larry David was "no hugging, no learning" and ending just where they started lived up to that rule. There was literally no development of their characters' mentalities throughout the series.

I know a lot of people didn't like the Seinfeld finale, and it was a little contrived, but what I liked was that there were all sorts of rumors about what was going to happen (Jerry tells Elaine he loves her, he and George move to LA for the show, the gang goes to Paris) and the writers head-faked at each of those rumors before turning it into a curtain call for all the memorable side characters over the years.

I liked it for the fact that, as you imply in your first paragraph, these characters were all basically lousy people and Seinfeld and David let those in the audience that somehow hadn't figured that out know it. I think that's also what really rubbed some people the wrong way.
 
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I liked the BSG ending. I had low expectations for them pulling something together that was halfway decent and was surprised at how well it turned out; kinda like scUM alums if they make a fourth-tier bowl this year.
 
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I thought the Vicar of Dibley finale was well done.

Also, Trailer Park Boys was great-until they came back. The first finale had Leahy happy to be a drunk trailer park supervisor, and all was well. Then they ruined it with "Countdown to Liquor Day." God that sucked...
 
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