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Ben Roethlisberger (Pittsburgh Steelers)

Have you ever been to go-bengals.com? Some of them were hoping Roethlisberger dies. You can say you have no sympathy for what happened to Roethlisberger or call him a dumbass but to say justice is served and he desevered it in a situation where he could have died is ridiculous.

I didn't hope he died, but if he did, I wouldn't waste time feeling sorry for him. Just like I won't waste time feeling sorry for a crack addict who dies or somebody who dies by driving 100 MPH on a freeway.

Stupidity has a price. Funny how few seem to realize it.

Man rides without helmet. Man gets face rearranged and no other major injuries. I'd say justice IS served.
 
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Have you ever been to go-bengals.com? Some of them were hoping Roethlisberger dies. You can say you have no sympathy for what happened to Roethlisberger or call him a dumbass but to say justice is served and he desevered it in a situation where he could have died is ridiculous.



Huh? Get out of bed and you increase you chance of dying. The situation was of his own making. No one forced him to go riding without a helmet. It's his own fault that he crushed his face. No helmet, no sympathy for head injuries.

There are extremes for both sides as Tibs has artfully pointed out. Anyone wanting BR to die, is just as out of line as the Steehlers fans that want the woman who hit him to be put in jail.

I have been consistent. I never want to see anyone get hurt and I wished him a speedy recovery. Now that he is better...I want him to brake both legs.
 
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Huh? Get out of bed and you increase you chance of dying. The situation was of his own making. No one forced him to go riding without a helmet. It's his own fault that he crushed his face. No helmet, no sympathy for head injuries.

There are extremes for both sides as Tibs has artfully pointed out. Anyone wanting BR to die, is just as out of line as the Steehlers fans that want the woman who hit him to be put in jail.

I have been consistent. I never want to see anyone get hurt and I wished him a speedy recovery. Now that he is better...I want him to brake both legs.

I agree with you but wanting someone to die is beyond anything I have seen from Steeler fans and it is just not one Bengals fan.
 
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I agree with you but wanting someone to die is beyond anything I have seen from Steeler fans and it is just not one Bengals fan.

So, you are broad brushing Bengal fans? Well guess what, I just saw two Neo Nazi's in Hines Ward jerseys, guess you all are a bunch of goose steppers.

No offence but your line of thinking is almost as stupid as the people that want BR to die.

BTW, you agree that you want him to brake both legs? :)
 
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So, you are broad brushing Bengal fans? Well guess what, I just saw two Neo Nazi's in Hines Ward jerseys, guess you all are a bunch of goose steppers.

No offence but your line of thinking is almost as stupid as the people that want BR to die.

BTW, you agree that you want him to brake both legs? :)

No, I am not. The posts I have seen from Bengals fans on websites and blogs is beyond anything I have seen from other sports fans. Saying someone should be in jail is not comparable to saying somebody should be dead.
 
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I do not buy that Bengals fans are worse than other fans. I am willing to bet if TO ran his bike into a car, the Eagles fans would be holding vigils for his slow and painful death. Cinci is one of the most complacent and passive sports towns I have ever been in. We are just pissed at the Steelers and it comes out in stupids ways. No one really want him to die no matter what they post anonymously on some chat board.
 
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Ben apologizes.

foxsports

Roethlisberger apologizes to Steelers, fans


<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=440 border=0><TBODY><TR vAlign=top><TD>Associated Press
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"In the past few days, I've gained a new perspective on life," the Super Bowl-winning quarterback said in a statement released by the team. "By the grace of God, I'm fortunate to be alive ... "
Roethlisberger, 24, who wrecked his bike and cracked his head on a car windshield on Monday, was discharged late Wednesday night.

The youngest quarterback ever to win a Super Bowl was not wearing a helmet when he crashed into a car that was turning left in front of his motorcycle. Pennsylvania's mandatory helmet law was repealed in 2003.

But Roethlisberger said in the statement that if he ever rides a motorcycle again "it certainly will be with a helmet."

Doctors have said two rounds of tests showed no brain injuries, although there was a mild concussion. Doctors used small titanium plates and screws to reassemble Roethlisberger's broken jaws and repaired other broken facial bones. He also lost two teeth and chipped several others, doctors said.

In the statement, Roethlisberger said that he realizes he has a responsibility to safeguard his health in the offseason so he can continue to lead the team.

The Pennsylvania Department of Transportation, citing confidentiality laws, has refused to confirm media reports that Roethlisberger does not have a valid Pennsylvania motorcycle license.

Roethlisberger appeared to address those reports in his statement.

"I never meant any harm to others nor to break any laws," Roethlisberger said. "I was confident in my ability to ride a motorcycle and simply believed such an accident would not happen to me."

Cincinnati Bengals quarterback Carson Palmer said those criticizing Roethlisberger for not wearing a helmet should back off.
"He went through seven hours of surgery and the last thing he
needs right now is guys banging on him for not wearing a helmet,"
Palmer said at Bengals' minicamp in Cincinnati.

Police were still investigating and will not release their findings until their accident reconstruction is complete, spokeswoman Tammy Ewin said. Police have finished inspecting Roethlisberger's Suzuki Hayabusa motorcycle and the car, but Ewin would not elaborate on that part of the investigation.

A secretary for District Justice Oscar Petite Jr., who has jurisdiction where the crash occurred, said no citations or other charges have been filed.

The car's driver, a 62-year-old woman, did not immediately return a telephone message Thursday.

The Steelers have not given a timetable for Roethlisberger's return, but hope he will be ready for their Sept. 7 opener against Miami. Players who visited Roethlisberger in the hospital believe he will return to action soon, with no ill effects.

"I look forward to being at training camp in Latrobe and winning football games this season," Roethlisberger said in the statement.
The Steelers are 27-4 with Roethlisberger at quarterback and have played in two AFC championship games and won a Super Bowl during his two seasons as a starter.

Bengals receiver Chad Johnson hopes the accident does not cause teams to impose more contractual limits on dangerous activities by players.

"They took away the (touchdown) celebrations. Now we can't enjoy ourselves outside of the facility? That's not fair," Johnson said.

"If you're going to do it, do it very cautiously. If you're going to ride a bike, ride it the right way. Don't speed. Do it for enjoyment. If you're going to bungee jump, have two cords in case one snaps. I don't ride anything. I just talk trash. That's it." Although Roethlisberger was able to sneak out of the hospital Wednesday night, Mercy Hospital officials did not confirm his release until Thursday morning at the request of his family. It was unclear where Roethlisberger went when he left the hospital. A bodyguard outside Roethlisberger's home did not say if the player was inside, but several vehicles were parked in the driveway and on the street nearby.

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:slappy: (from a bengals board)

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I do not buy that Bengals fans are worse than other fans. I am willing to bet if TO ran his bike into a car, the Eagles fans would be holding vigils for his slow and painful death. Cinci is one of the most complacent and passive sports towns I have ever been in. We are just pissed at the Steelers and it comes out in stupids ways. No one really want him to die no matter what they post anonymously on some chat board.

Agreed.
On one end of the spectrum you have Palmer, who was injured on the field through no fault of his own. Then on the other side is Kellen Winslow who was injured due to his own negligence and stupidity and deserved everything he got. Then, you got Big Jen, who is somewhere in the middle. He was obeying the laws and the accident was likely not his fault, but still his injuries were preventable if he just did something that every intelligent person would do. People forget that from the very beginning it was obvious that Big Jen was going to live. There was never any doubt that he was going to survive. So, the jokes were appropriate...and he deserved them.
 
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PITTSBURGH--Following another serious motorcycle accident involving a professional athlete, Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger, the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration decreed that all motorcycles belonging to pro athletes must be equipped with training wheels in order to protect the notoriously hapless drivers from breaking their goddamn necks.
“Okay I think we can safely say that athletes can’t drive motorcycles for some reason,” said Richard Faulk, director of the NHTSA. “Clearly, for the sake of these athletes, we must step in and dictate that their bikes be equipped with training wheels. You can’t go as fast with those things, but you can still have a real enjoyable, relaxing drive. And the slow speed will prevent you from getting hurt when you inevitably tumble over the handlebars.”
The new rule is a huge inconvenience for athletes, who have three weeks to complete modifications on their bikes, but Faulk said his agency was forced into action by the recent glut of mishaps.
“Roethlisberger is just the latest incident. There have been many before him,” Faulk said. “Kellen Winslow Jr, Jay Williams, Jamie Henderson, the list goes on. If the general population crashed their bikes at the same rate athletes do, it would be the leading cause of death in this country. It would be worse than cancer. But it shouldn't be a problem now that we’re adding training wheels as well as little tiny bell, which they can ring to announce that an athlete is approaching on a motorcycle and everybody should run for the frigging hills.”
Roethlisberger’s case is particularly upsetting because he had been warned in the past about the dangers of motorcycle riding, and had witnessed Winslow’s serious accident two years ago. Not only did he ignore those warnings, he also rode without a helmet. Predictably, most of his injuries wear to his head and face.
“I told this kid a million times not to get on that damn bike,” said former Steelers quarterback Terry Bradshaw, who told Roethlisberger last season to “ride it when you retire,” “But these young kids don’t listen. They don’t want to hear it from anyone else. Ben bragged about being a conservative, safe driver. Well, then, why the Suzuki Hayabusa, the 'fastest bike in the world,' Mr. Conservative? Oh, and at least get a Harley next time, not one of those gay-ass, multi-colored toy bikes. This isn’t The Fast and the Furious, Ben. It’s downtown Pittsburgh.”
Most NFL teams have guidelines forbidding players from engaging in dangerous activities such as motorcycle riding. The new training wheel law, while a welcome development, is not expected to change that.
“Training wheels or not, we’re still not letting our guys ride motorcycles, at least not during the season,” said Cleveland Browns head coach Romeo Crennel. “Don’t get me wrong, it’s wonderful that they’re taking this precautionary measure, but it’s not enough. These are athletes. Even with the training wheels, they could still mosey into an intersection and get flattened by a truck. Or they could somehow choke on one of the training wheels. I don’t know. There’s so many things that could go wrong, these guys would be better off not leaving the house.”
Crennel then offered a suggestion to make motorcycles even safer for athletes.
“First of all, they should enclose them in glass and metal,” he said. “Then they should add seat belts and a steering wheel. Finally they should have four tires instead of two, and an engine in the front underneath the hood and a trunk in the back and an airbag in the steering wheel. All those things, plus the training wheels should do the trick.”
 
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ABJ

6/16/06

Roethlisberger contrite, says he's lucky

JOE MANDAK

Associated Press

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Dr. Larry M. Jones, left, talks about the extent of the injuries to Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger during a news conference Tuesday, June 13, 2006 at Mercy Hospital in Pittsburgh. Dr. Daniel Pituch, a surgeon who operated on Roethlisberger is at right.
<!-- begin body-content -->PITTSBURGH - A contrite Ben Roethlisberger pledged to wear a helmet if he rides a motorcycle again. The Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback is also eager to get back on the field and start winning games once he recovers from facial injuries suffered in a scary wreck earlier this week.
In his first comments since crashing his motorcycle and undergoing seven hours of surgery, Roethlisberger released a statement through the team Thursday in which he apologized to the Steelers, fans and his family, and said he was lucky to have survived.
"In the past few days, I've gained a new perspective on life," the Super Bowl-winning quarterback said in a statement released just hours after he was discharged from a hospital. "By the grace of God, I'm fortunate to be alive ... "
The 24-year-old Roethlisberger wrecked his bike and cracked his head on a car windshield Monday. He was discharged from Mercy Hospital late Wednesday night.
The youngest quarterback to win a Super Bowl was not wearing a helmet when he crashed into a car that was turning left in front of his motorcycle. Pennsylvania's mandatory helmet law was repealed in 2003.
But Roethlisberger said in the statement that if he ever rides a motorcycle again "it certainly will be with a helmet."
Doctors have said two rounds of tests showed no brain injuries, although there was a mild concussion. Doctors used small titanium plates and screws to reassemble Roethlisberger's broken jaws and repaired other broken facial bones. He also lost two teeth and chipped several others, doctors said.
In the statement, Roethlisberger said he realizes he has a responsibility to safeguard his health in the offseason so he can continue to lead the team.
The Pennsylvania Department of Transportation, citing confidentiality laws, has refused to confirm media reports that Roethlisberger does not have a valid Pennsylvania motorcycle license.
Roethlisberger appeared to address those reports in his statement.
"I never meant any harm to others nor to break any laws," Roethlisberger said. "I was confident in my ability to ride a motorcycle and simply believed such an accident would not happen to me."
Cincinnati Bengals quarterback Carson Palmer said those criticizing Roethlisberger for not wearing a helmet should back off.
"He went through seven hours of surgery and the last thing he needs right now is guys banging on him for not wearing a helmet," Palmer said at Bengals' minicamp in Cincinnati.
Police were still investigating and will not release their findings until their accident reconstruction is complete, spokeswoman Tammy Ewin said. Police have finished inspecting Roethlisberger's Suzuki Hayabusa motorcycle and the car, but Ewin would not elaborate on that part of the investigation.
A secretary for District Justice Oscar Petite Jr., who has jurisdiction where the crash occurred, said no citations or other charges have been filed.
The car's driver, a 62-year-old woman, did not immediately return a telephone message Thursday.
The Steelers have not given a timetable for Roethlisberger's return, but hope he'll be ready for their Sept. 7 opener against Miami. Players who visited Roethlisberger in the hospital believe he'll return to action soon, with no ill effects.
"I look forward to being at training camp in Latrobe and winning football games this season," Roethlisberger said in the statement.
The Steelers are 27-4 with Roethlisberger at quarterback and have played in two AFC championship games and won a Super Bowl during his two seasons as a starter.
Bengals receiver Chad Johnson hopes the accident doesn't cause teams to impose more contractual limits on dangerous activities by players.
"They took away the (touchdown) celebrations. Now we can't enjoy ourselves outside of the facility? That's not fair," Johnson said.
"If you're going to do it, do it very cautiously. If you're going to ride a bike, ride it the right way. Don't speed. Do it for enjoyment. If you're going to bungee jump, have two cords in case one snaps. I don't ride anything. I just talk trash. That's it."
Although Roethlisberger was able to sneak out of the hospital Wednesday night, Mercy Hospital officials did not confirm his release until Thursday morning at the request of his family.
It was unclear where Roethlisberger went when he left the hospital. A bodyguard outside Roethlisberger's home did not say if the player was inside, but several vehicles were parked in the driveway and on the street nearby.
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AP Sports Writer Joe Kay in Cincinnati contributed to this report.
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Roethlisberger and the driver of the car he crashed into on June 12 both had the green light, but the driver of the vehicle will be cited for failing to yield, police said Monday.
Only licensed cyclists can ride without a helmet in Pennsylvania.
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Roethlisberger to be cited

Steelers QB had wrong license, didn't wear helmet

Posted: Monday June 19, 2006 10:25AM; Updated: Monday June 19, 2006 1:59PM

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<!--endclickprintexclude-->PITTSBURGH (AP) -- Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger did not have a valid motorcycle license when he crashed into a woman's car last week, and the driver -- who will be cited for failing to yield -- has received threatening phone calls.
Roethlisberger will be issued $388 in fines and fees for riding without a license and not wearing a helmet, police Collision Investigator Dan Connolly said Monday. Only licensed motorcyclists are allowed to ride bareheaded in Pennsylvania, with certain restrictions.
The Super Bowl champion quarterback rammed his Suzuki Hayabusa into a woman's Chrysler New Yorker on June 12 when she was making a left turn in front of him. Both had the green light.
Roethlisberger underwent seven hours of surgery to repair broken jaws and other facial bones. Tests showed no brain injuries, although he had a mild concussion; he also lost two teeth and chipped several others.
The woman, who will be cited for failing to yield to oncoming traffic, has received threatening phone calls since the accident, Police Chief Dominic Costa said. She filed a police report and the calls were being investigated.
Roethlisberger was traveling at the speed limit a posted 35 mph zone, but he braked and hit the car at a slower speed, he said, and there were no mechanical problems with either vehicle. Both will be sent summary citations.
To obtain a motorcycle license in Pennsylvania, riders must first get a learner's permit, which requires a $10 fee, a vision screening and a written test. The permit is valid for one year, during which a road test must be passed to obtain a full motorcycle license.
Only after two years of possessing a valid license is riding without a helmet allowed; that restriction is waived if the rider takes an approved safety course.
Police did not have any contact with Steelers officials during the investigation, Connolly said.
"This was no different than any other crash," Connolly said. "We found our determinations and determined that the parties needed to be cited and that's what we're doing."
In an interview with ESPN radio Monday morning, coach Bill Cowher said there is no way of knowing what effect Roethlisberger's injuries would have his playing ability.
"That's the thing we have to be very sensitive to and we have to make sure that we monitor -- and we'll do that," Cowher said. "We'll work with the doctors. We'll talk to him."
He did not criticize Roethlisberger for not wearing a helmet, something he had done last year.
"I think it would be very unfair, and I think it's really irrelevant, to be judgmental about the accident itself," Cowher said.
"Sometimes with the lessons of life, you have to get knocked down before you get back up," Cowher said. "He's just very fortunate. This was one of those lessons that could have been devastating. It could have been a very tragic story."
Roethlisberger was discharged Wednesday night from Mercy Hospital and apologized to the team, his fans and family in a statement. He also said that he would wear a helmet if he rode motorcycle again.
Police on Monday declined to reveal the name of the driver of the car, citing the threats. She has been identified in published reports as Martha Fleishman, 62, of Pittsburgh. Her husband, Martin Fleishman, has said she felt terrible about the accident
 
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6/21/06

Roethlisberger visits Steelers offices

Associated Press

<!-- begin body-content -->PITTSBURGH - Ben Roethlisberger, accompanied by bodyguards and wearing a hood to cover facial injuries from a motorcycle crash, visited the Pittsburgh Steelers' offices Tuesday, a newspaper reported.
Roethlisberger stopped by headquarters for the first time since the accident eight days ago to pick up mail and other items. He did not participate in any physical workouts or speak to reporters, the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette reported on its Web site Tuesday.
Team coaches who saw Roethlisberger said the swelling and bruising that was apparent on the quarterback's neck and face last week had subsided, the newspaper reported.
Roethlisberger rammed his Suzuki Hayabusa into a Chrysler New Yorker on June 12, when the car made a left turn in front of him on a Pittsburgh street. Both vehicles had the green light, police said.
Roethlisberger underwent seven hours of surgery to repair a broken jaw and other facial bones. Tests showed no brain injuries, although he had a mild concussion. He also lost two teeth and chipped several others.
Police said Roethlisberger did not have a valid motorcycle license when he crashed. Police said Monday they would cite him for riding without a license and not wearing a helmet because only licensed motorcyclists are allowed to ride bareheaded in Pennsylvania, with certain restrictions. Roethlisberger faced fines and fees totaling $388.
The car's driver, a 62-year-old woman who, police said, has received threatening phone calls since the crash, was to be cited for failing to yield.
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