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Unfortunately, I think this is as good as it is going to get. The powers that be are not going to give up their cash cow bowl games for a play-off system (even though some argue that those would also be bowl games)


Is this any better?...Who know's, but I think this is what we are going to have for years to come.
 
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fka, as much as the media complained about split nc's. this will only make them more likely. as there will be the bcs champ and the unrecognized media champ. which in the end is what the media really wanted to begin with. just another way for them to drum up more drama and cause problems.
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I doubt it. I agree with you in principle, but my guess is this new poll will be directly tied to the BCS, exactly how the USA Today Coaches Poll is. Whoever wins the BCS title game will be declared number one in both polls. If this is not the case, then you are 100% correct, and there will be more split national titles. But again, my guess is that this new poll is a piece of the BCS, and therefore they must do exactly what the BCS tells them to.
 
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Some retired coaches have agreed to participate in a new poll, which is NOT the new BCS poll. The article mentions Cooper as well as Bo. I bolded small portions of the article.

sportsline.com

Big-name retired coaches to vote in new non-BCS poll

NEW YORK -- A dozen retired coaches with impressive résumés have agreed to take part in a new college football poll that the organizer hopes to unveil in late September.
Ideally, the Master Coaches Survey will have 15 or 16 voters who will be provided game films of the top teams, said Andy Curtin, an Atlanta-based lawyer and former sports agent who came up with the idea after watching last season's Orange Bowl.

Southern California beat Oklahoma 55-19 in the Bowl Championship Series title game.

"After that debacle last year in the championship game, I started thinking about what was wrong in the method of selecting teams," Curtin said Monday in a phone interview.

Curtin met with 14 coaches last week to discuss his idea. John Cooper (Ohio State), Vince Dooley (Georgia), Pat Dye (Auburn), LaVell Edwards (BYU), Hayden Fry (Iowa), Don James (Washington), Frank Kush (Arizona State), Dick MacPherson (Syracuse), Bill Mallory (Indiana), Don Nehlen (West Virginia), John Ralston (Stanford), John Robinson (USC), R.C. Slocum (Texas A&M) and Gene Stallings (Alabama) attended the meeting in Georgia on July 17.

Curtin said Bo Schembechler (Michigan), George Welsh (Virginia) and Terry Donahue (UCLA) have also expressed interest in being part of the panel. That group includes 11 coaches voted into the College Football Hall of Fame.

Curtin said 12 coaches have already committed to take part in the poll, but would not identify them.

Last year the BCS formula used the Associated Press media poll, the coaches poll and a compilation of six computer rankings to determine which teams played for the national title. Each element counted for one-third of team's BCS grade.

The AP asked the BCS to stop using its poll after last season, and the BCS recently announced the creation of a replacement poll, which will use a panel of 114 former coaches, players and administrators, plus some media members.

Curtin presented his idea to BCS officials in March, but they passed on his proposal.

Coaches participating in the Master Coaches Survey would participate in a conference call or round-table during the week to discuss their opinions then vote on a top 25, Curtin said.

Curtin's plan is to have the poll released Wednesday nights during a television show with the coaches, who will be made available for questions on how the teams were ranked.

He has hired a marketing firm, hoping to draw interest from a television network to air the show and help pay the coaches for their work.

Curtin proposed a fee of about $60,000 per year for the coaches when he went to the BCS.

"You would not believe how well informed these guys are when we met last week," he said. "They know the current teams and players. One of the coaches has three TVs in his basement and watches nine games a week."
 
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More Info on The New Harris Poll -- Now Set - Names Given

As we heard before the Harris Poll takes the place of the old AP in the BCS Math. Apparently any formalities holding things up are now out of the way.

Harris Poll Panel Set for BCS <!-- END HEADLINE -->
<!-- BEGIN STORY BODY -->By The Associated Press 39 minutes ago



Terry Bradshaw, Lou Holtz, Steve Largent and Anthony Munoz are among the 114 panelists voting in a new poll the Bowl Championship Series will use this season to determine which teams play in college football's four major bowls, including the national title game.

The Harris Interactive College Football Poll panel is comprised of former college football players, coaches and administrators, plus some media members. The names of its voters were released Monday.

"Harris Interactive has been diligent in creating a voting panel that is balanced, statistically valid, and representative of all I-A conferences and independents," BCS coordinator and Big 12 Conference commissioner Kevin Weiberg said in a statement.

The Harris Poll replaces The Associated Press Top 25 media poll as one of three components in the BCS standings. The USA Today coaches' poll and a compilation of six computer rankings make up the other two-thirds of a team's BCS grade.

The AP poll had been used by the BCS since its inception in 1998, but after last season the AP asked BCS officials to stop using its rankings in their formula.

ESPN pulled its affiliation to the coaches poll after last season.

The Harris panel has numerous big names on it, including NFL Hall of Famers Bradshaw, Largent and Munoz.

Bradshaw played at Louisiana Tech. Munoz was an All-American tackle at USC. Largent played for Tulsa.

Holtz retired from coaching last season, leaving South Carolina. He also made successful stop at Arkansas, Minnesota and Notre Dame.

Among the other former players voting in the Harris Poll are Rocket Ismail, Boomer Esiason, Don Maynard, Lee Roy Selmon and Craig Morton.

Spike Dykes, Gerry DiNardo and Foge Fazio are among the former coaches taking part in the poll.

Former Southeastern Conference commissioner Roy Kramer, whose effort was pivotal in forming the BCS, will also be a Harris poll voter.

The 114-member panel was selected by Harris Interactive Inc., a marketing firm hired by the BCS, out of a group of more than 300 nominations supplied by the Division I-A conferences and Notre Dame.

The voters were chosen to give equal representation to all 11 conferences.

The first Harris poll will be released Sept. 25, four weeks into the college football regular season. Harris poll voters will not be required to make their ballots public until the final poll Dec. 5.

Voters in the coaches' poll agreed for the first time to release their final ballots this season.

The first BCS standings will be released Oct. 17.
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EDIT: Here is a link to the full list of names.
 
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I give it 2 years of credibility. The third year, people will accuse them and the rest of the BCS of being retarded for ranking 11-0 Boise State ahead of 9-2 Tennessee, and they'll figure out some other way of "fixing" the BCS.
 
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[pre]Aillet, Bobby Hicks, Tommy Newhouse, Dave
Battle, Bill Hines, Clarkston Perles, George
Bartow, Gene Holtz, Lou Podolak, Ed
Bestwick, Dick Holub, EJ Pont, John
Biddle, Joe Housel, David Preece, Steve
Bishop, Blaine Ismail, Rocket Rash, Jason
Bokamper, Kim Jacoby, Fred Rice, Homer
Bradshaw, Terry Johnson, Charlie Richter, Pat
Browning, Wilt Kerkhoff, Blair Roach, Paul
Bruce, Earle Kern, Mike Roda, Kenny
Buckner, Brentson Kramer, Roy Schiller, Harvey
Casciola, Bob Lacewell, Larry Schmidt, Dr. Terry R.
Cavagnaro, Charlie Lapham, Dave Schultz, Dick
Congemi, John Lapides, George Selmon, Lee Roy
Crouthamel, Jake Largent, Steve Sheridan, Dick
Crowder, Eddie Lawless, Robert Shipp, Ken
Dalis, Peter Lengyel, Jack Smallwood, Irwin
Davis, Charles Lessig, Jim Smith, Jim Ray
Dawkins, Pete Lewis, Ferd Smith, Larry
DiNardo, Gerry Lewis, Ted Smith, Sam
Dooley, Bill Lucas, Mike Spani, Gary
Donnelly, Boots Lude, Mike St. Amant, Lou
Duhe, Kevin Luicci, Tom Stephenson, Ron
Dykes, Spike Mackovic, John Stokley, Nelson
Elliott, Bump Maynard, Don Sweeney, Jim
Emanuel, Bert McCauley, Don Taylor, Rick
Esiason, Boomer McConnell, Joe Taylor, Whit
Fambrough, Don McGee, Mike Thompson, Jack
Fazio, Foge McIlhenny, Lance Toner, John
Frederick, Bob Melick, Ray Townsend, Steve
Geiger, Andy Miller, Ted Tuckett, Glenn
Glazier, David Moody, Darrell Urick, Max
Grabowski, Jim Morse, Jim Valdiserri, Roger
Grace, Mike Morton, Craig Wagner, Bob
Grim, Bob Moss, Jack Weedon, Frank
Haden, Pat Munoz, Anthony Windegger, Frank
Hammel, Bob Neinas, Chuck Yeoman, Bill
Harmon, Dick Neverett, Tim Yoshida, Hugh[/pre]

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Does anybody know how to copy/paste that list out of Adobe?
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Don't use Windows or Adobe. :wink:
 
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http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/college/1999/preview/news/1999/08/17/ohiostate_qbs_ap/t1_cooper_all_01.jpg

Uh, where's John Cooper? Seems a bit of a shame that America's favorite volunteer never gets selected.
 
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Kenny Roda!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Yeah, this poll is real credible. I can't wait till sep. 25 when the pittsburgh steelers have 2 #1 votes from roda and bradshaw.

God help college football.
 
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