Baseball Hall of Fame (Cooperstown)

[AuTX Buckeye]

http://extramustard.si.com/2014/01/09/dan-lebatard-bbwaa-punishment-hall-of-fame-deadspin/?eref=sihp

Good. LeBastard has always been a freakin attention whore, and this was just such a typical ESPiN sports-advocacy effort to make themselves part of the story.

http://bbwaa.com/lebatard-statement/

I know it was likely an attention whoring stunt but did you read the reasons why Lebatard did it?

 

[BUCKYLE]

I know it was likely an attention whoring stunt but did you read the reasons why Lebatard did it?

Because he wanted attention?

 

[joefoshow]

Lebatard was trying to make a point at how screwed up the voting is but I think he just screwed it up even more by pulling this stunt.

 

[BayBuck]

I know it was likely an attention whoring stunt but did you read the reasons why Lebatard did it?

Yes, and it's pretty clear from his jumbled explanation that he didn't have a single coherent reason for it other than to get attention. If "journalists" like him spent more time/effort reporting on the game and less on advocating for their preferred change, maybe they'd be more informed than the general public and worthy of the HoF voting privilege.

 

[AKAK]

holy crap...

-BBWAA President La Velle E. Neal III

No, that doesn't make the BBWAA sound more stuffy... not a bit

 

[BayBuck]

holy crap...



No, that doesn't make the BBWAA sound more stuffy... not a bit

Good day, sir!

http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2013/10/26/lavelle-neal-1st-black-writer-to-head-bbwaa/

 

[Thump]

2017:

Bagwell
Raines
Pudge


So glad to see Pudge get in. Shocked it was that close of a vote.

 

[brodybuck21]

2017:

Bagwell
Raines
Pudge


So glad to see Pudge get in. Shocked it was that close of a vote.

the highlights of Pudge throwing guys out stealing were ridiculous. i mean I've watched him play many times growing up but to see it again.....laser. but I'm most happy for Bagwell. my fav player growing up. still remember when Houston made the trade to get the minor league 3B. shifted him to 1B and the rest is history. and don't give me the roids/ped smack. Bags was a beast offensively and defensively, his 1994 campaign was one of the greatest of all time:

110 games
.368 avg
.750 slg
1.201 OPS
39 hr
116 rbi
104 runs
gold glove
silver slugger
mvp (situation were the strike actually helped him win this due to him breaking his hand 2 days before the stoppage)

and he played 56 of those 110 games in the cavernous astrodome. hit 23 of his 39 bombs in those 56 games too.

 

[brodybuck21]

the highlights of pudge throwing guys out stealing were ridiculous. i mean ive watched him play many times growing up but to see it again.....laser. but Im most happy fpr Bagwell. my fav player growing up. still remember when Hou made the trade to get the minor league 3B. shifted him to 1B and the rest is history. and dont give me the roids/ped smack. Bags ws a beast offensively and defensively, his 1994 campaign was one of the greatest of all time:

110 games
.368 avg
.750 slg
1.201 OPS
39 hr
116 rbi
104 runs
gold glove
silver slugger
mvp (situation were the strike actually helped him win this due to him breaking his hand 2 days before the stoppage)

and he played 56 of those 110 games in the cavernous astrodome. hit 23 of his 39 bombs in those 56 games too.

and whats funny is he still finshed almost 30 % points behind Gwynn for the batting title....Gwynn hit .394!

 

[ScriptOhio]

 

[ScriptOhio]

On this day in baseball history in...1918: Washington's Walter Johnson pitched a 1-0, 18-inning victory over Lefty Williams of the White Sox, who also went the distance.

The Time Walter Johnson Pitched 18 Innings in One Game!

Walter Johnson is one of the greatest pitchers of all time, and on May 15, 1918, he delivered a performance that stood out from any of his other games. He pitched a total of 18 innings in one game – and won! The game took place at Griffith Stadium against the defending World Series champion Chicago White Sox, and ended on a wild pitch by Lefty Williams, giving the Senators a 1-0 walk-off win.

For those 18 innings, Johnson gave up 10 hits, one walk, struck out 9, and gave up no runs. His earned run average dropped to just 0.98. Though he contributed just one hit in seven at bats, the hit actually put the Senators in the position to win the game in the 18th. From the Washington Herald’s game write up the next day:

“Walter Johnson and Eddie Ainsmith are credited with timely clouts [hits] which put the Nationals in the running. It happened in the eighteenth after Foster had popped out. Ainsmith singled to center and moved all the way to the far corner when Johnny Collins delayed a few seconds in recovering Johnson’s clout in the same territory.”

Read the entire article: http://ghostsofdc.org/2014/05/12/time-walter-johnson-pitched-18-innings-one-game/

Needless to say, back then "pitch count" wasn't an issue. The chances are better today for someone to beat Joe Dimaggio's consecutive game hitting streak than someone duplicating that feat.

 

[LordJeffBuck]

Here's a list of current players who have Hall of Fame potential in my opinion. In each category, I have listed the players in order of likelihood of being inducted (again, my opinion). I have only considered players who have at least five years in MLB (including 2017).

Definite Inductees (Position Players)

Player's Name	Years	HITS	-HRS-	RBIS	B.Avg	O.B.P.	SLUG	O.P.S.	W.A.R.	-AS-	-GG-	ROY	MVP	Notes
Albert Pujols	17	2968	614	1918	.305	.386	.561	.947	99.3	10	2	Yes	3	#9 career HR; #12 career RBI, #31 career WAR
Miguel Cabrera	15	2636	462	1613	.317	.395	.553	.948	68.8	11	0	No	2	Active leader in career BA; triple crown in 2012
Ichiro Suzuki	17	3054	116	768	.312	.355	.403	.758	59.3	10	10	Yes	1	Active leader in career SB (508); #35 all-time
Adrian Beltre	20	2978	452	1598	.286	.339	.480	.819	91.5	4	5	No	0	#38 career HR; #36 career RBI

Possible Inductees, 10+ years (Position Players)

Player's Name	Years	HITS	-HRS-	RBIS	B.Avg	O.B.P.	SLUG	O.P.S.	W.A.R.	-AS-	-GG-	ROY	MVP	Notes
Robinson Cano	13	2297	295	1146	.305	.354	.497	.851	64.3	8	2	No	0	10 seasons with .297+ batting average
Carlos Beltran	20	2682	432	1571	.280	.352	.489	.841	70.1	9	3	Yes	0	312 career stolen bases
Joey Votto	11	1586	257	830	.313	.428	.541	.969	54.8	5	1	No	1	Active leader in career OBP, #12 all-time
Yadier Molina	14	1669	117	743	.284	.336	.401	.737	34.3	8	8	No	0	Active leader in caught stealing pct (41.18)
Dustin Pedroia	12	1767	137	703	.301	.367	.442	.809	52.1	4	4	Yes	1	Lots of intangibles, including playing in Boston
Joe Mauer	14	1905	135	838	.308	.390	.444	.834	51.3	6	3	No	1	A 6-foot-5, 225-pound slappy. I'll pass
Matt Holliday	14	2056	310	1200	.302	.381	.515	.896	51.2	7	0	No	0	Best years were in the thin air of Colorado
Adrian Gonzalez	14	1996	309	1169	.289	.360	.489	.849	43.3	5	4	No	0	10 straight seasons of 90+ RBIs
Ryan Braun	11	1634	295	960	.303	.366	.544	.910	44.7	6	0	Yes	1	Great numbers, will be doomed by PED suspension
Chase Utley	15	1821	255	1000	.277	.360	.470	.830	64.7	6	0	No	0	Active #5 in career WAR - advanced metrics fail!

Possible Inductees, 5-9 years (Position Players)

Player's Name	Years	HITS	-HRS-	RBIS	B.Avg	O.B.P.	SLUG	O.P.S.	W.A.R.	-AS-	-GG-	ROY	MVP	Notes
Mike Trout	7	1040	201	569	.306	.410	.566	.976	55.2	6	0	Yes	2	Active leader in career OPS, #13 all-time
Paul Goldschmidt	7	1010	176	627	.299	.399	.532	.931	34.8	5	2	No	0	Active #5 in career OPS, #34 all-time
Jose Altuve	7	1250	84	403	.316	.362	.453	.816	29.7	5	1	No	0	217 career SB; hurt by low WAR and lack of power
Buster Posey	9	1094	126	562	.308	.375	.477	.853	36.4	5	1	Yes	1	3 World Series titles helps, low power output hurts
Giancarlo Stanton	8	960	267	672	.268	.360	.554	.914	35.1	4	0	No	0	Injuries have kept his numbers down
Nolan Arenado	5	800	148	506	.290	.340	.534	.875	27.4	3	4	No	0	The best off/def combo of any young star
Andrew McCutchen	9	1397	192	687	.292	.381	.490	.871	39.1	5	1	No	1	Solid, steady, not spectacular; needs longevity to get in
Josh Donaldson	7	790	150	475	.277	.366	.502	.868	34.0	3	0	No	1	Almost 32 years old, so time is quickly running out
Bryce Harper	6	750	141	399	.284	.388	.511	.899	25.0	5	0	Yes	1	So far the numbers don't match the hype

Definite Inductees (Pitchers)

Player's Name	Years	WINS	LOSS	WIN%	E.R.A.	SAVE	WHIP	K/BB	W.A.R.	-AS-	ROY	C.Y.	MVP	Notes
Clayton Kershaw	10	144	64	.692	2.36	0	1.002	4.18	59.4	7	No	3	1	Numbers are simply insane; the modern-day Sandy Koufax

Possible Inductees, 10+ Years (Pitchers)

Player's Name	Years	WINS	LOSS	WIN%	E.R.A.	SAVE	WHIP	K/BB	W.A.R.	-AS-	ROY	C.Y.	MVP	Notes
Max Scherzer	10	135	74	.646	3.30	0	1.119	4.06	43.0	5	No	2	0	Seems to be getting better with age
David Price	10	125	67	.651	3.24	0	1.146	3.75	32.9	5	No	1	0	Are his best years already behind him?
Zack Greinke	14	166	104	.615	3.39	1	1.181	3.76	58.0	4	No	1	0	Awful start to career (13-28, 4.99 ERA in 1st two seasons)
Justin Verlander	13	188	114	.623	3.46	0	1.184	3.13	56.6	6	Yes	1	1	Up and down career, currently in a down mode
Adam Wainwright	12	144	81	.640	3.27	3	1.203	3.27	38.8	3	No	0	0	Lost almost two full seasons due to injuries
Felix Hernandez	13	158	112	.585	3.19	0	1.186	3.26	52.0	6	No	1	0	Just turned 31, but his career is heading south in a hurry
Jon Lester	12	151	90	.627	3.48	0	1.240	2.89	39.9	4	No	0	0	Good solid numbers, but nothing really stands out
Cole Hamels	12	140	96	.593	3.32	0	1.159	3.53	52.2	4	No	0	0	Can he revive his career now that he's out of Philly?
C.C. Sabathia	17	230	144	.615	3.70	0	1.251	2.83	60.1	6	No	1	0	The pinstripes might get him in

Possible Inductees, 5-9 Years (Pitchers)

Player's Name	Years	WINS	LOSS	WIN%	E.R.A.	SAVE	WHIP	K/BB	W.A.R.	-AS-	ROY	C.Y.	MVP	Notes
Chris Sale	9	101	62	.620	2.92	12	1.036	5.21	41.8	7	No	0	0	Active leader in career K/BB, #1 all-time
Madison Bumgarner	9	100	70	.588	2.99	0	1.097	4.32	30.2	4	No	0	0	3 World Series titles, MVP in 2014; still just 28 years old
Stephen Strasburg	8	78	44	.639	3.20	0	1.097	4.51	20.7	3	No	0	0	Talented but fragile - will he ever meet expectations?
Craig Kimbrel	8	23	18	.561	1.80	279	0.911	4.33	16.8	6	Yes	0	0	Averaging 14.6 strike outs per 9 innings for career
Kenley Jansen	8	23	13	.639	2.10	210	0.865	5.69	14.0	2	No	0	0	Averaging 13.9 strike outs per 9 innings for career
Corey Kluber	8	88	53	.624	3.09	0	1.066	5.13	32.1	3	No	2	0	Late bloomer won't get enough wins to impress voters
Yu Darvish	5	52	38	.578	3.32	0	1.175	3.23	18.8	4	No	0	0	Lost seven seasons to Japan, two to injury
Jake Arrieta	8	82	53	.607	3.65	0	1.174	2.63	19.8	1	No	1	0	Two monsters seasons but not much else
Dallas Keuchel	6	59	47	.557	3.60	0	1.226	2.88	15.8	2	No	1	0	Three-time gold glove winner
Gerrit Cole	5	54	37	.593	3.42	0	1.220	3.61	10.8	1	No	0	0	Only 26 years old, but only one good season so far

 

[ScriptOhio]

Barry Bonds, Roger Clemens, Manny Ramirez Top 2018 BBWAA Hall of Fame Ballot



Chipper Jones, Jim Thome, Omar Vizquel, Jamie Moyer and Johan Santana are on the ballot for the first time, per BBWAA.com, joining 14 players from last year's ballot.

Entire article: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...ny-ramirez-top-2018-bbwaa-hall-of-fame-ballot

Who would you vote for?

 

[brodybuck21]

Thome and Manny

 

[Buckeyeskickbuttocks]

Any hall of fame ballot that would include a roided up, corked bat using, cheating waste of human skin is invalid.