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Baltimore Ravens (Official Thread)

J.K. Dobbins on Tyler Huntley fumble: 'He should never have been in that situation'

An extremely frustrated J.K. Dobbins said he believes it would have been a different result had the Ravens given him the ball -- and not quarterback Tyler Huntley -- on a crucial fourth-quarter play near the goal line in Baltimore's 24-17 wild-card loss to the Cincinnati Bengals on Sunday night.
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"He should have never been in that situation," Dobbins said of Huntley. "I don't get a single carry. I didn't get a single carry. He should never have been in that situation. I believe I would have put it in the end zone, again."
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"I'm a guy who feels like I should be on the field all the time," Dobbins said. "It's the playoffs. Why am I not out there?"

This isn't the first time Dobbins has vented about his desire to get the ball more. On Friday, he told reporters he wanted the game "on my back." Following Sunday's defeat, Dobbins mentioned that he told coaches on the sideline he wanted to be more involved.

"I should be the guy. I'm tired of holding that back," said Dobbins, who had averaged 6.9 yards per carry in four games since having a knee scoped. "I'm a playmaker. I'm a guy that my teammates feed off me when I'm on the field."
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Dobbins didn't hold back on how much the return of Jackson would've impacted Sunday's playoff game, either.

"If we'd have had Lamar, we'd have won too," Dobbins said.

Entire article; https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id...ated-lack-carries-ravens-playoff-loss-bengals

Dammmn.
 
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Some interesting details about potential Lamar Jackson happenings, I'll summarize

According to Florio, all signs point to the Ravens applying the non-exlusive franchise tag to Lamar (assuming they can't sign him). This allows other teams to negotiate with him and sign him to an offer sheet. If the Ravens decline to match, they recieve two first round picks from the new team.

Then it goes on to discuss the Dolphins. There is speculation that he wants to play at home (Miami area). But the Dolphins don't have a 2023 first due to tampering with Gisele's ex.

Then he goes on to say they could wait until after the draft and use the 2024-2025 draft picks, so I'm not really sure why the fuck he included the previous paragraph because it's completely irrelevant.

(end of summary)

Anyways, sounds like we've seen the last of Lamar in Baltimore.
 
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Outside of a handful of QBs, more teams should use this option. Dallas should've done it with Dak, Giants should've done it with Jones.

See what "market value" really is for the player, then make a decision.

 
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I am not a believer in the "hybrid" Qb in the NFL. The position is too valuable to have them running around. At most I want a Mahomes or Burrow or Lawrence type. Guys who can run when needed but you would never risk them running on purpose. If you recall when Mahomes got hurt on that QB sneak a few years ago they run more of a read option offense. That ended real quick. I do not feel like KC ever runs any designed QB run plays now. Burrow I think is better than Mahomes and that is just an opinion.
But back to the subject at hand. The issues with Lamar and that type of Qb:

1- they get hurt too often
2- not many can play that position like that so your offense becomes specialized to the point that you are too reliant on that player (see Baltimore without Lamar.
3- You get into this situation where he is way more valuable to Baltimore than any other team (I do think he would fit nice at SF)


Where if you build an offense around a tradition drop back Qb you can get by without your starter to win games and quarters if needed.

I would never build my NFL offense around a Lamar type. Makes you way too dependent on his individual skill set and also makes your whole offense too concept specific. You could drop Burrows in at KC and they do not miss a beat. But drop him in Baltimore's offense and you must change the scheme and play calling or you will fail. And this is Joe friggin Burrow who is again IMO the best in the NFL right now. If you can not drop Burrow or Mahomes into your offense and get better then you have to ask yourself what type of fringe offense you are running.
 
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Lamar has missed 10 games over the last two seasons. He had one spectacular season 4 years ago, and has been between good and meh since. He somehow thinks he deserves to be the highest paid guy in the sport? Sorry, Lamar, the Clowns already went full retard last year. Somebody needs to give him a reality check.
 
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Lamar has missed 10 games over the last two seasons. He had one spectacular season 4 years ago, and has been between good and meh since. He somehow thinks he deserves to be the highest paid guy in the sport? Sorry, Lamar, the Clowns already went full retard last year. Somebody needs to give him a reality check.

I like how the media keeps hinting the Browns gave Watson the contract they gave him to mess with the Ratbirds.

That would be some sort of forward thinking....that's NOT the Browns. This is just a happy little accident that resulted :lol:
 
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Browns fans, would you do a straight up trade, Deshaun for Lamar?
No. Lamar has already been bit by the injury bug the past couple years. He isn't a good enough passer to make up for losing a step. Watson has more potential as a thrower than Lamar especially if you were looking to guarantee his contract for the next 5 years. If I could go back to 2018 and pick someone other than Baker then trade up from 33 to pick Lamar at 32 I'd be all for it, but I still wouldn't want to guarantee him anything more than 2 years right now.
 
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Browns fans, would you do a straight up trade, Deshaun for Lamar?

Can I just go back in time and trade down the first pick, pick Ward at 4, Minkah Fitzpatrick or Roquan Smith with the trade down, trade up a couple picks from 33 to draft Lamar before the Ravens rather than Austin Corbett? To answer your question, I wasn't a big fan of the Watson trade, but I don't really want Lamar at this point of his career either. Scarlet colored glasses I'd trade Watson for Fields or obviously CJ. Fields might not be worth the picks that we gave up for Watson, but he'll be cheaper and has more potential than he's shown with the Bears. I'm pretty sure any team other than KC or Cincy would trade their starter straight up for CJ.
 
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