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B1G CCG: Who defeats Whom? (Bet by noon on Nov 5)

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There are 33 choices, every combination possible for each of the top4 teams in each division, and then 1 choice for 'none of the above', in case Illinois, Indiana, NW'ern, or Minnesota somehow reach the CCG.

I determined these odds by estimating the chances of each team winning all of the games for the top4 teams in each division, applying the tiebreakers, and then estimating the odds for each of the 32 possible matchups that could result.

Here are the current scenarios:

Leaders:
Team......Conf..Div-Wins...........Div-Losses.....Div-Remng..........Cross-Remng
PSU.......5-0...Ind,Purd,Ill.......----...........@tOSU, @Wisc..........Neb
tOSU......2-2...Ill,Wisc...........----...........Ind,@Purd,PSU.........@TSUN
Wisc......2-2...Ind................tOSU...........Purd,@Ill,PS U........@Minn
Purd......2-2...Ill................PSU............@Wisc,tOSU,@ Ind......Iowa


Conference record in all games is the first thing. B1G Tiebreakers first go to head-to-head, so 2-ways are easy, and 3-ways are easy if 1 team beat both of the others. But the 3-way tie where they each beat each other goes to the team with the fewest losses within the division. After that, it gets weird and complicated.

If PSU wins at least 2 of their last 3 games, they're either 7-1 or 8-0 and in the CCG.

If tOSU wins out, the Buckeyes need PSU to also lose either against Nebraska or at Wisconsin. The Buckeyes would be 5-0 in the division and own all of the tiebreakers against everybody.

For Wiscy to win the division, they need to win out AND have tOSU lose another game, AND have PSU lose another game besides the PSU-Wiscy game; since at 6-2 the only tie-breaker they can win is the head-to-head with Penn State being the only other 6-2 team.

Legends:
Team......Conf..Div-Wins...........Div-Losses.....Div-Remng..........Cross-Remng
MSU.......3-1...TSUN...............NEB............Minn,@Ia,@NW .......Ind
Neb.......3-1...Minn,MSU...........----...........NW,@TSUN,IA.........@PSU
TSUN......3-1...Minn,NW............MSU............@Iowa,Neb... .......@Ill,tOSU
Iowa......2-2...NW.................Minn...........TSUN,MSU,@Ne b......@Purd

Conference record in all games is the first thing. B1G Tiebreakers first go to head-to-head, so 2-ways are easy, and 3-ways are easy if 1 team beat both of the others. But the 3-way tie where they each beat each other goes to the team with the fewest losses within the division. After that, it gets weird and complicated.

If TSUN loses to Nebraska, TSUN is almost dead since they'd have 2 losses and lose virtually all of the tiebreakers to either MSU or Neb.

If TSUN beats Nebraska, the possibility of the complicated 3-way tie comes into play. As JXC said, if Sparty's second loss is to either Minn/Iowa/NW, they'd have 2 losses within the division and they'd lose that 3-way tie since Nebraska would only have 1 divisional loss (If TSUN's second loss is to Iowa), and they'd lose the 3-way tie to TSUN if TSUN beats Nebraska and their second loss is to tOSU or Illinois.
 
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So totalling things up, this has these odds of winning the CCG for each team:

23 - tOSU
22 - Wiscy
18 - Sparty
17 - Nebraska
12 - Penn St
08 - TSUN
01 - Iowa
00 - Purdue (actually 4 chances in 1000)
 
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I wonder if I'm in the minority but "Delaney's dream match up" is something I hope I never see in the BTCG. Seriously, never.

The notion that either team would get a second chance - for all the marbles - renders the regular season version of THE GAME completely meaningless. How any fan could think that is a good idea is beyond me, although I'm sure some fans of the losing team will attempt to rationalize it.

Delaney sees dollar signs. I get that. I see cheapening of the best rivalry in college football solely to make a few more million on top of the millions already made every weekend. :ohwell:
 
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WolverineMike;2025604; said:
a chance to get two victories in one season over a bitter rival? Good luck getting anyone to boycott that

When those games are in consecutive weeks, no matter how bitter the rivalry it gets diminished. The biggest part of The Rivalry is the year-long euphoria the winning team enjoys and the year-long agony the losing team suffers.
 
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WolverineMike;2025672; said:
Michigan has fallen very short this decade in regards to the rivalry to think it's to the point where osu fans wouldn't crave the chance to beat them twice. Bad on us.

I'd rather get revenge on Nebraska than beat Michigan twice this season.
 
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WolverineMike;2025674; said:
Even if UM actually wins this year?

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