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B1G CCG: #1 tOSU vs #2 Indiana in Indy, Sat. Dec 6th, 8 ET on FOX

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Let me start with the positive as I see it:
no one has hurt the OSU defense yet. IU survived it, moved the chains when they had to and hit a couple of timely explosives but still only scored 13 points. I don't know what the blue print is for someone to really hurt this defense because we haven't seen anyone put it on tape yet. Maybe a team that could protect well enough to take deep shots on a little bit of a suspect secondary...just theoretical. Not sure anyone could really do it.

Now the offense, we had seen flashes of the kryptonite all year. IU just put it on tape for the rest of the playoff field.

OSU's fatal vulnerability is a weak IOL + QB processing under stress.

Consistent pressure+ good coverage + post snap rotation = blueprint for defensive success against the OSU offense.

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Kicking under pressure just cannot go on the positive side of the ledger. Hasn't for years now.

Last night we saw IU beat OSU at it's own efficiency game. They won 3rd down battle in both phases (6/13 on offense, 4/12 on defense) and did just enough in the red zone to make OSU come away with two empty trips which is the same as 2 turnovers and they won the TO battle +2.

The two completely empty trips (vs IU at least kicking 2/3 FG's) was the ultimate fuel for the upset. You can't have that.

Day and his staff were outcoached by Cignetti and his. They were one step ahead of the OSU offense all night and broke every facet of the efficiency model OSU uses. The OSU adjustment to what IU was doing was too little, too late.

There are teams in the CFP field that fit the mold here (TT comes to mind quick) maybe some I am not thinking of yet.

Sky isn't falling but again, the way to beat this team was just just shown and it's flaws are foundational. You can't fix that IOL this late in the year.
 
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Dee-Liem said:
On the bright side, since ESPN is seriously running this thing, Ohio State drops to No. 2. Georgia will be No. 3.

They (ESPN) wants to avoid Georgia vs Alabama/Texas A&M in the quarterfinal (No. 3 plays Tulane/Ole Miss).
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Read that this morning.

Bama isn’t as loaded as they (ESPN) is making them out to be. TAMU would be a fun game and likely win as well.

Indiana could only manage a single TD with a heisman winning QB. And it took us shooting ourself in the foot in the red zone 4 times to win. I’m good with anyone they want to put in front of us. You thought the get-back against Oregon last year was nice - the lessons learned from this game will be even better.

The team is done running heisman campaigns, done worrying about recruiting hold-outs, done worrying about being perfect. They can just focus on the playoffs. This loss felt different.
 
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Nati-Toledo Bucks said:


I’m not gonna stop yelling about not having 3 WRs on the field at all times..
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I agree with this. Listening to Tony and Tom and to summarize:

Anytime you take Tate or JJ off the field, the defense thanks you.

Why we continue to do this - makes no sense. Especially when what we are doing in the red zone isn't working. Why aren't we throwing slants or fades to JJ and Tate once every single time in the red zone?

Taking them off the field is the "Dwight Schrute": whenever I'm about to do something I ask myself would an idiot do that

We force this 13 personnel all year long - it isn't like this week Hartline was distracted so we did this - it's been all year long. He didn't wake up Thursday morning and say "forgot to do my homework" this gameplan was signed off on by Day.
 
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Onebuckfan said:
The OL played poorly after an excellent effort against scUM. Our LT was fine ….I can’t explain it.
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The IOL has had trouble with stunts and just straight up pass pro all year but it wasn't just OL failure.

IU had pressure but they also made Sayin hold the ball with their coverage/post snap rotations. That was the killer. In the second half OSU adjusted and started hitting quick backside throws but it obviously wasn't enough down in the RZ.

That said, the IOL is going to be blood in the water for whoever we play next.
 
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Mike80 said:
On the bright side. Ohio State played a B game on defense and a C- game on offense and lost by a FG

Indiana is good and did just enough to win.

Great learning opportunity here with a couple weeks to reset and absorb the lesson.
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I'd give the defense an A- but picking nits.

Agree on the C- for offense and offensive staff.

I'm really not that bummed out about this to be honest. We learned something last night, we have a better sense of what reality is for this team.

Elite defense and some pretty damn good ingredients on offense to hurt you if you don't have certain capabilities and bring your A+ game even if you have those capabilities.

This team isn't the all time generation juggernaut some thought it might be but that's ok. Its a very good offense coupled with an elite defense. I'll take my chances with it in a playoff field.
 
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Onebuckfan said:
The OL played poorly after an excellent effort against scUM. Our LT was fine ….I can’t explain it.
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It was the right side of the line all night long. Don’t get it twisted, Indiana has a monster D-Line that will be a force against anyone, but we’ve harped all year that the line is a weakness. You could tell too because Hartline deployed a lot of 2-TE packages to help with blocking problems,

The left side played well for the challenge they were up against.

Offensive weakness: O-Line right side
Defensive weakness: Nickel coverage
 
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Jaxbuck said:
Let me start with the positive as I see it:
no one has hurt the OSU defense yet. IU survived it, moved the chains when they had to and hit a couple of timely explosives but still only scored 13 points. I don't know what the blue print is for someone to really hurt this defense because we haven't seen anyone put it on tape yet. Maybe a team that could protect well enough to take deep shots on a little bit of a suspect secondary...just theoretical. Not sure anyone could really do it.

Now the offense, we had seen flashes of the kryptonite all year. IU just put it on tape for the rest of the playoff field.

OSU's fatal vulnerability is a weak IOL + QB processing under stress.

Consistent pressure+ good coverage + post snap rotation = blueprint for defensive success against the OSU offense.

ST;
Kicking under pressure just cannot go on the positive side of the ledger. Hasn't for years now.

Last night we saw IU beat OSU at it's own efficiency game. They won 3rd down battle in both phases (6/13 on offense, 4/12 on defense) and did just enough in the red zone to make OSU come away with two empty trips which is the same as 2 turnovers and they won the TO battle +2.

The two completely empty trips (vs IU at least kicking 2/3 FG's) was the ultimate fuel for the upset. You can't have that.

Day and his staff were outcoached by Cignetti and his. They were one step ahead of the OSU offense all night and broke every facet of the efficiency model OSU uses. The OSU adjustment to what IU was doing was too little, too late.

There are teams in the CFP field that fit the mold here (TT comes to mind quick) maybe some I am not thinking of yet.

Sky isn't falling but again, the way to beat this team was just just shown and it's flaws are foundational. You can't fix that IOL this late in the year.
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This sums up how I feel pretty nicely. Still very confident in the D. Indiana was very high percentage on big shots downfield in a way that will be hard to duplicate. And that still only got them to 13 with 3 of those being on the offense really.

It was never a secret that we are at a disadvantage if we have to rely on Fielding to make kicks and honestly last night just simplifies the short yardage/red zone decision making in the playoffs. There should be no doubt that we default to considering everything a four down territory once we get inside the 30.

On offense, we went into our toughest test of the season by far with an OC being pulled in multiple directions. Growing pains were to be expected. Now the question is whether Day is up to the challenge to adapt going forward and what does that look like.

And we still ended the games with two final drives that resulted in: 27 plays, 151 yards, and 14:57 time of possession. Yes, Indiana D stepped up big when it mattered and yes, this isn't the first time this offense stalled in the red zone. But I'll take my chances with this offense getting that level of production when they need to score in a playoff game. 95 times out of 100, you score more than zero points off of two drives with that level of production.
 
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Jaxbuck said:
I'd give the defense an A- but picking nits.

Agree on the C- for offense and offensive staff.

I'm really not that bummed out about this to be honest. We learned something last night, we have a better sense of what reality is for this team.

Elite defense and some pretty damn good ingredients on offense to hurt you if you don't have certain capabilities and bring your A+ game even if you have those capabilities.

This team isn't the all time generation juggernaut some thought it might be but that's ok. Its a very good offense coupled with an elite defense. I'll take my chances with it in a playoff field.
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Think the defense is generational but agreed on all points. Hell if that 2021 Georgia squad that gave up 42 to a pretty mediocre Bama squad with one true weapon in the SEC Title game can be considered generational, not sure why this Buckeye squad can't be!

But yeah the only offense in the playoff that worries me more than Indiana is Ole Miss and their defense is pretty meh.
 
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