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ORD_Buckeye
Wrong glass, Sir.
Yep. Ewers is just an early example of the college football age we live in. Was Justin Fields a thief for spending a year at UGA before moving on to a better fit. Ewers burned no bridges on his way out and has said everything right. I want him to lose because he plays for Texas, but fuck anyone who wants to see him injured.
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Arkansas State Recap
1. First, an administrative point: If you get into a fight with a Moderator and say "Ban me", then guess what? You're gonna get banned. We've got better things to do with our time than to fight with fellow posters, especially on game day. So don't make us call your bluff - we will do it.
2. That "hard fought" victory over "top five" Notre Dame doesn't look quite so good in retrospect, now that the Domers have fallen to lowly Marshall in Week 2. It's still early, but right now Notre Dame looks like they will struggle to become bowl eligible.
3. Now on to the Arkansas State game. While the Red Wolves were far from a quality opponent, neither were they the typical early season pushover. Arkansas State has 22 players who transferred in from Power5 schools, 8 of whom are starters, including quarterback James Blackmon (Florida State; 188 yards passing); wide receiver Champ Flemings (Oregon State; 125 all-purpose yards); safety Eddie Smith (Alabama, Illinois; team-high 6 tackles); and linebacker Kivon Bennett (Tennessee; 4 tackles, TFL). Of course there's a reason why players transfer from Power5 to Sun Belt, and that reason is usually lack of talent, but the bench warmers at Alabama, Tennessee, and Florida State were all highly-touted recruits at one time, they are used to big game atmospheres and top-25 competition, and given the opportunity to see the field they can make a few plays against anybody.
4. Ohio State quarterback CJ Stroud had a borderline great game (16/24, 351 yards, 4 TDs), but probably not quite the Heisman-level performance that most people were expecting. Stroud seemed a little bit out of rhythm at times, but he also made some truly amazing throws that displayed excellent arm strength and pinpoint accuracy.
5. Marvin Harrison Jr. had an all-time great performance, with 7 receptions for 184 yards (11th best in Buckeye history) and 3 touchdowns. All of Harrison's touchdowns were of at least 30 yards (30, 42, 42), and he became just the fourth Buckeye to accomplish that feat, joining Terry Glenn (1995 Pittsburgh; receptions of 36, 61, 75); Devin Smith (2014 Wisconsin; receptions of 39, 42, 44); and Jaxon Smith-Njigba (2022 Utah; receptions of 30, 50, 52). Emeka Egbuka added 4 receptions for 118 yards (including a 51-yard touchdown), and he also gained 27 yards on a jet sweep.
6. The running game accounted for 168 yards on 26 carries (6.5 average), but the numbers were skewed somewhat by four long runs (23, 25, 27, and 41 yards). The Buckeyes had seven rushing plays that went for negative yards, and seven other rushing plays that went for 3 yards or less. TreVeyon Henderson led the way with 10 carries for 87 yards and a pair of touchdowns.
7. The starting offense seemed disjointed in general. On the one hand, they had ten "chunk" plays (25, 27, 30, 35, 41, 42, 42, 44, 45, and 51 yards) and four quick-strike drives: 2 plays, 59 yards, 0:42 TOP; 3 plays, 75 yards; 0:58 TOP; 3 plays, 75 yards; 1:20 TOP; and 4 plays, 75 yards, 1:33 TOP. On the other hand, they had four 3-and-out drives that netted a combined total of -2 yards.
8. The defense was a little bendy but they didn't quite break. Arkansas State mounted four fairly impressive scoring drives (10 plays, 43 yards; 5 plays, 50 yards; 11 plays, 56 yards; 14 plays, 58 yards), each of which ended in a field goal. The defense gave up only two long plays (receptions of 25 and 58 yards); held the Red Wolves to 6 of 22 (27.3%) on 3rd and 4th downs; and forced 12 TFLs (2 of which were sacks). Defensive tackles Michael Hall Jr. (3 TFL, sack) and Tyleik Williams (1.5 TFL) were disruptive forces in the middle of the defense.
9. The biggest negative in the game were the penalties (9 for 85 yards). For the season, the Buckeyes have committed 16 penalties for 160 yards - not good.
1. First, an administrative point: If you get into a fight with a Moderator and say "Ban me", then guess what? You're gonna get banned. We've got better things to do with our time than to fight with fellow posters, especially on game day. So don't make us call your bluff - we will do it.
2. That "hard fought" victory over "top five" Notre Dame doesn't look quite so good in retrospect, now that the Domers have fallen to lowly Marshall in Week 2. It's still early, but right now Notre Dame looks like they will struggle to become bowl eligible.
3. Now on to the Arkansas State game. While the Red Wolves were far from a quality opponent, neither were they the typical early season pushover. Arkansas State has 22 players who transferred in from Power5 schools, 8 of whom are starters, including quarterback James Blackmon (Florida State; 188 yards passing); wide receiver Champ Flemings (Oregon State; 125 all-purpose yards); safety Eddie Smith (Alabama, Illinois; team-high 6 tackles); and linebacker Kivon Bennett (Tennessee; 4 tackles, TFL). Of course there's a reason why players transfer from Power5 to Sun Belt, and that reason is usually lack of talent, but the bench warmers at Alabama, Tennessee, and Florida State were all highly-touted recruits at one time, they are used to big game atmospheres and top-25 competition, and given the opportunity to see the field they can make a few plays against anybody.
4. Ohio State quarterback CJ Stroud had a borderline great game (16/24, 351 yards, 4 TDs), but probably not quite the Heisman-level performance that most people were expecting. Stroud seemed a little bit out of rhythm at times, but he also made some truly amazing throws that displayed excellent arm strength and pinpoint accuracy.
5. Marvin Harrison Jr. had an all-time great performance, with 7 receptions for 184 yards (11th best in Buckeye history) and 3 touchdowns. All of Harrison's touchdowns were of at least 30 yards (30, 42, 42), and he became just the fourth Buckeye to accomplish that feat, joining Terry Glenn (1995 Pittsburgh; receptions of 36, 61, 75); Devin Smith (2014 Wisconsin; receptions of 39, 42, 44); and Jaxon Smith-Njigba (2022 Utah; receptions of 30, 50, 52). Emeka Egbuka added 4 receptions for 118 yards (including a 51-yard touchdown), and he also gained 27 yards on a jet sweep.
6. The running game accounted for 168 yards on 26 carries (6.5 average), but the numbers were skewed somewhat by four long runs (23, 25, 27, and 41 yards). The Buckeyes had seven rushing plays that went for negative yards, and seven other rushing plays that went for 3 yards or less. TreVeyon Henderson led the way with 10 carries for 87 yards and a pair of touchdowns.
7. The starting offense seemed disjointed in general. On the one hand, they had ten "chunk" plays (25, 27, 30, 35, 41, 42, 42, 44, 45, and 51 yards) and four quick-strike drives: 2 plays, 59 yards, 0:42 TOP; 3 plays, 75 yards; 0:58 TOP; 3 plays, 75 yards; 1:20 TOP; and 4 plays, 75 yards, 1:33 TOP. On the other hand, they had four 3-and-out drives that netted a combined total of -2 yards.
8. The defense was a little bendy but they didn't quite break. Arkansas State mounted four fairly impressive scoring drives (10 plays, 43 yards; 5 plays, 50 yards; 11 plays, 56 yards; 14 plays, 58 yards), each of which ended in a field goal. The defense gave up only two long plays (receptions of 25 and 58 yards); held the Red Wolves to 6 of 22 (27.3%) on 3rd and 4th downs; and forced 12 TFLs (2 of which were sacks). Defensive tackles Michael Hall Jr. (3 TFL, sack) and Tyleik Williams (1.5 TFL) were disruptive forces in the middle of the defense.
9. The biggest negative in the game were the penalties (9 for 85 yards). For the season, the Buckeyes have committed 16 penalties for 160 yards - not good.
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Abenaki
Ohio against the world.
The word that kept going through my head in the first half was "underwhelming" but I think the better word for the day is disjointed. Which is fine. For now. We know what the offense can be. We've seen the defense be much better. We don't need a well oiled machine in game 2, we need it in games 12-15.
Survive. Advance. Keep getting better.
Survive. Advance. Keep getting better.
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calibuck
Too soon old, too late smart
Glad to see the win, now that Hall is deemed "OK". Sad to see all the penalties. Shows lack of discipline. Also sad to see that Day was so late in subbing in for CJ. No reason for him to even get on the field in the fourth quarter. To see the top back up hand off to run down the clock was a bit insulting. The one or two passes attempted (?) were simple tosses. Would have liked to see the offense open up a bit more with the 2's in it. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the D subbed pretty liberally in the second half, with many/most of the players 2's and 3's. That is the way to build depth. Go Bucks!
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I don't agree RE: Stroud. Day's offense is about timing and having a connection in the passing game. It's far more important to get the 1s on the same page at this point than reps for the 2s. With all the new faces, and no real idea when JSN or Fleming will return, more reps are important.
The defense subbed regularly in the 1st half too, especially the front 7 other than Eichenburg.
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ScriptOhio
Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.
ON THE GAME:
“First of all, I have a lot of respect for Ohio State and coach Day. Ohio State is a very good and very talented football team. So, we knew that it would be a challenge coming here. When you play a team like Ohio State, every mistake you make is magnified. So, you have to do a great job and not beat yourself. They have great football players, they have got really good schemes and they force you to execute.”
ON THE SECOND-HALF START:
“I didn’t like the way we started the second half. I thought we lacked some intensity. And when you look at it, we had two three-and-outs offensively to start the second half. On (Ohio State’s) first two possessions they went down and scored. But I will give our kids credit. It’s like I told our team, there are no moral victories to be the type of team that we want to be. You expect to win no matter who the opponent is, no matter where you play.
"That’s kind of a mindset that we’re building in our football program. But I am proud of the way our kids competed. And that’s what I wanted to see is what type of competitive grit they would have. I thought they showed some competitiveness.”
ON THE LITTLE THINGS:
“When you really look at the game within the game, I think it came down to critical downs. When you look at third down conversions, I believe we were five out of 20. You’re not going to win very many games if you don’t possess the football. We gave up way too many explosive plays on the perimeter of our defense.
I believe there were four plays of 40 yards or more for touchdowns. You can’t do that. You have to make an offense drive the ball. But again, I thought our kids competed.”
ON THE TAKEAWAY FROM THIS EXPERIENCE:
“Like I told our players, you know, we need to self-assess, look at everything with a critical eye in what’s one positive thing that we can build off of. We are disappointed, but not discouraged. I thought our kids competed. The first half was a lot of great learning lessons. We got a long football season, but I think there are a lot of things to build upon as well. It’s disappointing because we lost.
"We practice with crowd noise. We practice in the winter time with crowd noise. We practice Thursdays with crowd noise. We practice with annoying noises. So, I didn’t think that was a factor at all. And I think when you’re at this level, the first thing you want to see is a clean game. The biggest thing is we didn’t turn the football over on offense. That’s against a really good defense. That’s something to build upon. So, there are a lot of positives. Like I said, we expect to win the football game. But I think what our team learned, and we’ll talk more about it, is we can be a really good football team if we don’t beat ourselves."
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ScriptOhio
Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.
In case who wondered who played in the game:
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ScriptOhio
Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.
College football scores: CBS Sports grades top teams in Week 2 action
OHIO STATE
National title odds: 13/4
Grade: A-
Ohio State defeated Arkansas State, 45-12, behind quarterback C.J. Stroud's 351 passing yards and four touchdowns. Marvin Harrison Jr. had a big game with seven catches for 184 yards and three touchdowns in the win. While Stroud hasn’t had his full complement of weapons through two games this year, he sees the potential when all of his receivers are healthy.
“I definitely think it shows everybody, including ourselves, the depth that we do have once those guys do come back,” Stroud said after the game. “Thank God it's not crazy injuries, and they'll be back either next week or the week after that. So it's amazing just to see those young guys step up even more.”
CBS Sports: "A 45-12 win over Arkansas State doesn't necessarily move the meter, but the offense was on point and the defense -- an issue last year -- allowed just 276 yards," Sallee wrote. "That's two straight weeks of good defense, which is a great sign moving forward."
Entire article: https://247sports.com/college/ohio-...teams-in-Week-2-action-193263109/#193263109_1
OHIO STATE
National title odds: 13/4
Grade: A-
Ohio State defeated Arkansas State, 45-12, behind quarterback C.J. Stroud's 351 passing yards and four touchdowns. Marvin Harrison Jr. had a big game with seven catches for 184 yards and three touchdowns in the win. While Stroud hasn’t had his full complement of weapons through two games this year, he sees the potential when all of his receivers are healthy.
“I definitely think it shows everybody, including ourselves, the depth that we do have once those guys do come back,” Stroud said after the game. “Thank God it's not crazy injuries, and they'll be back either next week or the week after that. So it's amazing just to see those young guys step up even more.”
CBS Sports: "A 45-12 win over Arkansas State doesn't necessarily move the meter, but the offense was on point and the defense -- an issue last year -- allowed just 276 yards," Sallee wrote. "That's two straight weeks of good defense, which is a great sign moving forward."
Entire article: https://247sports.com/college/ohio-...teams-in-Week-2-action-193263109/#193263109_1
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ScriptOhio
Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.
Throughout the offseason, we heard the stories of Jim Knowles' particular proclivity for sending pressure.
“It's gonna be aggressive,” Tanner McCalister, who transferred from Oklahoma State to continue playing for Knowles, said last winter after arriving in Columbus. “A lot of defenses react to what the offense likes to do. I think Coach Knowles wants them to react to what we like to do.”
Let's be honest, any time a new defensive coordinator is introduced at the FBS level, he tells the fans and local media that his philosophy includes the same, tired tropes of wanting to be aggressive while still keeping it simple for the players, and in this regard, Knowles was no different. Through two games, however, the veteran coach appears to be living up to his promise.
On the very first play from scrimmage of the 2022 season, Knowles sent his boundary cornerback on a blitz. Yes, that pressure forced safety Josh Proctor to make a tackle that he ultimately missed, resulting in a 54-yard gain that felt all too familiar for those who had watched this defense closely over the past two seasons.
But that one play has accounted for just over 10% of the total yardage Knowles' troops have given through two full games. Since that missed tackle, the OSU defense appears to be playing at a different level than years past, including the 2019 vintage that featured Chase Young and finished first in the nation in total yards allowed.
While that team relied on individual talent to win along the line of scrimmage and in the secondary, this iteration of the Silver Bullet defense looks to dictate the flow of the game, keeping opponents off-balance and often going backward.
For instance, while hosting Arkansas State last Saturday in Ohio Stadium, the Buckeyes seemed to be the ones caught on their heels after Denzel Burke bit on a double-move and surrendered a 58-yard catch-and-run, setting up the Red Wolves in the red zone. But rather than sit back and hope their opponents screwed up after a penalty made it 2nd & 15, Knowles' defenders turned up the heat, sending a six-man pressure that pinned ASU back even further.
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