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woopiginaustin

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I'll start by giving the obligatory "I have nothing but respect for your program" line. I do. Realistically speaking, we'll never catch up to the hardware OSU has.

With that out of the way, I'm going to post the thoughts of a fellow Hog since they mirror mine and he has already done the work.........


The storyline leading up to this game is obviously going to be Ryan Mallett and the Arkansas offense vs. The mighty "D" of Ohio St. OSU's defense ranks 3rd in the country in scoring defense, giving up an average of 13.3 pts per game, while Arkansas's scoring offense ranks 16th in the country, averaging 37.3 pts per game. For this I'm only using scoring off. and def. because I'm lazy and don't want to look up anything else.

OSU's opponents had a combined record of 72-72
They played one team (Wisconsin) that ranked in the top 20 nationally in scoring offense and gave up 31 in that loss.
The avg scoring off. rank of their twelve opponents was 63rd.
They only played two team with at least 8 wins (Wisconsin 11-1 & Ohio U 8-4), they were 1-1.
They beat Iowa 20-17 a week before Iowa lost to a 2-9 Minnesota team.

Arkansas's opponents had a combined record of 86-59
We played two teams in the top 20 nationally in scoring defense (Bama, LSU), but four in the top 30 (A&M, MSU). We were 3-1 in those games and scored no less than 21.
The avg scoring def. rank of our eleven D1 opponents was 52nd.
We played six teams with at least 8 wins (Bama 9-3, A&M 9-3, AU 13-0, SC 9-4, MSU 8-4, LSU 10-2), we were 6-2.
In our last seven games we never scored less than 31 pts.

Obviously, the point here is that OSU built up that defensive ranking against a very soft schedule and when they were tested by a real offense, they got beat up. On the other hand, our offense was continually tested by good defenses and our low point output was 21....and the Bama game was obviously before we discovered our ground game.

http://woopig.net/board/index.php/topic,73919.0.html
 
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matcar;1828945; said:
You're welcome to your opinion, most don't share them nor do I. If the SEC is "down"it would seem everyone else is too. None of that matters for this game fortunately and I'm hopeful that our offense has found it's identity and can methodically score while keeping the piglet offense off the field.
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I agree with this.... in fact i have stopped arguing with SEC fan freinds of mine. I have conceeded that they are top notch as a conference. I believe we are an elite program and can hang with anyone but we are not in the best conference at this point in time. Its actually crazy that they own 6 bcs titles with 5 schools.
 
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woopiginaustin;1828959; said:
I'll start by giving the obligatory "I have nothing but respect for your program" line. I do. Realistically speaking, we'll never catch up to the hardware OSU has.

With that out of the way, I'm going to post the thoughts of a fellow Hog since they mirror mine and he has already done the work.........


The storyline leading up to this game is obviously going to be Ryan Mallett and the Arkansas offense vs. The mighty "D" of Ohio St. OSU's defense ranks 3rd in the country in scoring defense, giving up an average of 13.3 pts per game, while Arkansas's scoring offense ranks 16th in the country, averaging 37.3 pts per game. For this I'm only using scoring off. and def. because I'm lazy and don't want to look up anything else.

OSU's opponents had a combined record of 72-72
They played one team (Wisconsin) that ranked in the top 20 nationally in scoring offense and gave up 31 in that loss.
The avg scoring off. rank of their twelve opponents was 63rd.
They only played two team with at least 8 wins (Wisconsin 11-1 & Ohio U 8-4), they were 1-1.
They beat Iowa 20-17 a week before Iowa lost to a 2-9 Minnesota team.

Arkansas's opponents had a combined record of 86-59
We played two teams in the top 20 nationally in scoring defense (Bama, LSU), but four in the top 30 (A&M, MSU). We were 3-1 in those games and scored no less than 21.
The avg scoring def. rank of our eleven D1 opponents was 52nd.
We played six teams with at least 8 wins (Bama 9-3, A&M 9-3, AU 13-0, SC 9-4, MSU 8-4, LSU 10-2), we were 6-2.
In our last seven games we never scored less than 31 pts.

Obviously, the point here is that OSU built up that defensive ranking against a very soft schedule and when they were tested by a real offense, they got beat up. On the other hand, our offense was continually tested by good defenses and our low point output was 21....and the Bama game was obviously before we discovered our ground game.

http://woopig.net/board/index.php/topic,73919.0.html
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Our offense is going to be flying down there too. I'm starting to see a pattern where these breakdowns are only focusing on Hog O vs. Bucks D. There's quite a bit more to look at than that...
 
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The vast majority of the 10 SEC bowl eligible teams last season would have beat Oregon. Don't hang your hat on that.......

I think the point here is that the biggest talking point in favor of OSU in the game is your D. Well, truth be told, your schedule was beyond weak and the same could be said to a greater extent about the offenses you faced.

I would be ashamed to give up more than 13 points to the offenses you've faced.

On the flip side, Arkansas has faced 6 teams currently in the Top 25, beating 4, with the only losses to then #1 Bama and now #1 Auburn. The D you will bring is no better than the ones I mentioned above. Again, don't find comfort in your inflated statistics. Look at the garbage you have faced.
 
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My post from another thread dealing with the same topic since we are repeating ourselves here:

I think that Arkansas is the best team to ever play CFB. They are unstoppable on Offense and I can't believe that Coach Tressel accepted the invitation to play against such a powerhouse. Especially a team from the SEC. I really have no idea what Gene Smith and Coach Tressel were thinking. We all know that Ryan Mallet is the best QB to ever play the game. And when you think of Arkansas' storied history of playing in BCS games and competing for National Championships.......well......it makes me shiver just to think about it.

I just fast and pray that the game isn't over by mid way into the 1st quarter. May God AND the Razorbacks have mercy on us.

:osu:
 
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woopiginaustin;1828979; said:
The vast majority of the 10 SEC bowl eligible teams last season would have beat Oregon. Don't hang your hat on that.......

I think the point here is that the biggest talking point in favor of OSU in the game is your D. Well, truth be told, your schedule was beyond weak and the same could be said to a greater extent about the offenses you faced.

I would be ashamed to give up more than 13 points to the offenses you've faced.

On the flip side, Arkansas has faced 6 teams currently in the Top 25, beating 4, with the only losses to then #1 Bama and now #1 Auburn. The D you will bring is no better than the ones I mentioned above. Again, don't find comfort in your inflated statistics. Look at the garbage you have faced.
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AYFKM? Transitory much? :shake:
 
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woopiginaustin said:
I'll start by giving the obligatory "I have nothing but respect for your program" line. I do. Realistically speaking, we'll never catch up to the hardware OSU has.

With that out of the way, I'm going to post the thoughts of a fellow Hog since they mirror mine and he has already done the work.........


The storyline leading up to this game is obviously going to be Ryan Mallett and the Arkansas offense vs. The mighty "D" of Ohio St. OSU's defense ranks 3rd in the country in scoring defense, giving up an average of 13.3 pts per game, while Arkansas's scoring offense ranks 16th in the country, averaging 37.3 pts per game. For this I'm only using scoring off. and def. because I'm lazy and don't want to look up anything else.

OSU's opponents had a combined record of 72-72
They played one team (Wisconsin) that ranked in the top 20 nationally in scoring offense and gave up 31 in that loss.
The avg scoring off. rank of their twelve opponents was 63rd.
They only played two team with at least 8 wins (Wisconsin 11-1 & Ohio U 8-4), they were 1-1.
They beat Iowa 20-17 a week before Iowa lost to a 2-9 Minnesota team.

Arkansas's opponents had a combined record of 86-59
We played two teams in the top 20 nationally in scoring defense (Bama, LSU), but four in the top 30 (A&M, MSU). We were 3-1 in those games and scored no less than 21.
The avg scoring def. rank of our eleven D1 opponents was 52nd.
We played six teams with at least 8 wins (Bama 9-3, A&M 9-3, AU 13-0, SC 9-4, MSU 8-4, LSU 10-2), we were 6-2.
In our last seven games we never scored less than 31 pts.

Obviously, the point here is that OSU built up that defensive ranking against a very soft schedule and when they were tested by a real offense, they got beat up. On the other hand, our offense was continually tested by good defenses and our low point output was 21....and the Bama game was obviously before we discovered our ground game.

http://woopig.net/board/index.php/topic,73919.0.html
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1st off, this might as well be merged with the Arkansas Visitors Thread.

But I do think your entire argument is undermined by just looking at Scoring OFF. and DEF ranks. Also, the Buckeye defense only gave up 24 to Wisconsin, the other 7 were given up on a kick-off return. That does not fall into the Arkansas OFF vs. Ohio State DEF argument. While there is plenty of evidence to indicate that your offense will have success against us, your limitation to the simplest of football statistics doesn't tell us anything substantial.
 
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woopiginaustin;1828979; said:
The vast majority of the 10 SEC bowl eligible teams last season would have beat Oregon. Don't hang your hat on that.......

I think the point here is that the biggest talking point in favor of OSU in the game is your D. Well, truth be told, your schedule was beyond weak and the same could be said to a greater extent about the offenses you faced.

I would be ashamed to give up more than 13 points to the offenses you've faced.

On the flip side, Arkansas has faced 6 teams currently in the Top 25, beating 4, with the only losses to then #1 Bama and now #1 Auburn. The D you will bring is no better than the ones I mentioned above. Again, don't find comfort in your inflated statistics. Look at the garbage you have faced.
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Again, our offense will be flying to the game too. You want to talk about half the game. Fine, your opinion. Apparently your not very worried about facing another 6'5 250 lb QB that will be the fastest player on the field. How'd it go the last time your defense had to deal with that? We're not going to have to stop you every drive to win this game. We'll have to stop you more than you stop us. The game is not just our defense vs. your offense...
 
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woopiginaustin;1828979; said:
The vast majority of the 10 SEC bowl eligible teams last season would have beat Oregon. Don't hang your hat on that.......
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LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL! That SEC arrogance is really starting to shine through now.

I would be ashamed to give up more than 13 points to the offenses you've faced.
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Oh yeah. The conference with 6 QB's with ratings of 150+ and outstanding RB's doesn't know anything about offense. Hopefully Petrino's SEC wizardry will rub off on us Big-10 peasants.
 
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