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Are you saving enough for retirement?

Some really nice posts here. I think the point is understood by everyone that you have to save early. Each year you delay, you are not truncating the early years, you are really truncating the most valuable late years - where your assets are the highest.

Also, I know many said it is hard to save, especially when young and especially with kids. I agree it is harder, but probably not as hard as you think if you stepped back. For instance, the Chinese earn 5% what we do yet save more by a factor of 80. (Using 0.5% as national savings). I think it is just the human condition in America to raise spending with income from year to year. I see this at all income levels. We all know the lottery winner who dies broke, but I also cant tell you how much designer clothes I used to see in South Harlem by Columbia U. A way to get around this is to make a budget and stick to it. Youd be surprised how much is wasted when there is no plan. Perhaps the saddest part is study after study shows such consumption really adds no long term happiness. Study after study shows financial independence does though.

One thing I do sometimes when Im facing a large purchase is to think of it in future dollars. Ill use the oft cited example here of the Porsche I was thinking of buying last year. It was going to be about 85 grand, which is a tidy sum in its own right, but gross that money up at a 7% real rate, and in 25 years thats almost a half million dollars. Enough for a decent summer house, kids education, or FIVE new Porsches. Add on the extra maintenence and insurance, and the numbers are even worse. So to me - what is better - a Porsche now that would be worth about 10k in 25 years, or that same investment worth a cool half mil? You can do the same calc with almost anything - the bigger the cost - the more pronounced the effect is.

Happy budgeting!
 
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Enough? Too many variables to know, especially with the boomers wanting to bankrupt us all and our collective refusal to work more seriously on reducing our oil dependence and to focus on critical thinking and basic "fund of knowledge" stuff in our schools. I got started a little late with serious saving (28 or so), but my wife and I have both maxed out our 401Ks for several years (I'm 36 and she's 39 now) and both work for employers with defined benefit plans so we're on the right track. Still, I have more earning potential than I'm living up to right now and when I find something more lucrative want to start Roths for both of and also do some more aggressive investing on the side. For now, the deal I have with my wife is that so long as we both max out our 401Ks, which I insisted on even before we got married, we can live in a nice location, eat nice dinners, travel . . . with the rest (- enough cash savings to get us by for a couple of months if something bad happens). Not perfect, but if the country does okay I'm pretty sure we will.
 
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Little piece of advice that my father gave me...Every time you get a raise, put it in your retirement. Say you get a dollar/hour raise this year. That is an extra $160.00/month before taxes. Even if you only put an extra $100.00/month into your retirement, it is a good habit to get into.
 
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One thing I do sometimes when Im facing a large purchase is to think of it in future dollars. Ill use the oft cited example here of the Porsche I was thinking of buying last year. It was going to be about 85 grand, which is a tidy sum in its own right, but gross that money up at a 7% real rate, and in 25 years thats almost a half million dollars. Enough for a decent summer house, kids education, or FIVE new Porsches. Add on the extra maintenence and insurance, and the numbers are even worse. So to me - what is better - a Porsche now that would be worth about 10k in 25 years, or that same investment worth a cool half mil? You can do the same calc with almost anything - the bigger the cost - the more pronounced the effect is.

I see why you did not buy that Porsche. My older son sat in a couple this weekend at the car show. Even though one was over $100,000 he was not impressed as they did not have sliding doors like minivans do. That is the true reason you have not bought that car yet. :wink2:
 
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That's a completely separate issue: the goal is to retire with enough to live the rest of your life as you wish, but eventually to die penniless so the government doesn't get any :tongue2: . Unless of course you plan on dying on your last day on the job.

Well, if I die on the job its probably safe to say it will be my last day of work, LOL... :biggrin: I think it sounds like a terrific plan! I still stash all my money in a matress, the government won't find it there... LOL
 
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Interesting read so far.

I would say simply this - Dave Ramsey

If you are in debt, go read his book. Basically teaches you how to get OUT of debt, using a budget and other very simple processes.

It's about changing the habits, not doing stupid stuff like refi on the house to pay off the debt so you can go right back to your bad habits.He has a radio show everyday as well. He likes to say "focus with gazelle like intensity" and "live like noone else now, so you can live like noone else later!"

Dude is simply fantastic. I highly recommend anyone that is looking for help go read his "total money makover" book and see him live.
 
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If you haven't started, start now!!! Keep adding layers. Once you start it isn't hard to add layers...

My wife wasn't much of a saver... step by step I've got her well over 1/3 of her income (including her match) in a variety of programs (and I intend to increase this to past 40%... just don't tell her:tongue2: )... granted it helps when there is a defined benefit plan, a qualified defined contribution plan, and a non-qual. deferred contribution plan...

For those with large incomes, if you have enough options, you can lower your AGI to where you can also contribute to ROTH's and save even more in a tax favored way:wink2:

The use of discounted corportate stock from your employer can also be a nice "kiss" to help you get to retirement... (as long as you don't mind a large chunk of your assets sitting in your "ER's" stock :wink2: )
 
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