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idiots, thats who.

did anyone else see this? its a joke.
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=5 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=bg1 colSpan=2>Iowa is going to walk all over Mich and Ohio State </TD></TR><TR><TD class=bg4 colSpan=2>Posted by jbyarnes
<SCRIPT>document.write(formatTime('%b %D, %I:%M %p',1124556896))</SCRIPT>Aug 20, 12:54 pm </TD></TR><TR><TD class=bg2 colSpan=2>Go hawks. Have you forgot our fight song. Who does michigan have? hart... not enough. We are going to kick your teeth in. Sorry Ohio State but you suck ass. I can't wait to see your team crying on the sidelines at home in front of all the buckteeth faithful.Who does Ohio state have?? and by the way does your team ever play a tough game away from home...are you scared </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
 
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1. USC
2. Texas
3. Tennessee
4. Michigan
5. LSU
6. Ohio State
7. Oklahoma
8. Virginia Tech
9. Miami (Fl)
10. Florida
11. Iowa
12. Louisville
13. Georgia
14. Florida State
15. Purdue
16. Auburn
17. Texas A&M
18. Boise State
19. California
20. Arizona State
21. Texas Tech
22. Boston College
23. Pittsburgh
24. Fresno State
25. Virginia
 
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scarletngrey77 said:
idiots, thats who.

did anyone else see this? its a joke.
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=5 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=bg1 colSpan=2>Iowa is going to walk all over Mich and Ohio State </TD></TR><TR><TD class=bg4 colSpan=2>Posted by jbyarnes

<SCRIPT>document.write(formatTime('%b %D, %I:%M %p',1124556896))</SCRIPT>Aug 20, 12:54 pm
</TD></TR><TR><TD class=bg2 colSpan=2>Go hawks. Have you forgot our fight song. Who does michigan have? hart... not enough. We are going to kick your teeth in. Sorry Ohio State but you suck ass. I can't wait to see your team crying on the sidelines at home in front of all the buckteeth faithful.Who does Ohio state have?? and by the way does your team ever play a tough game away from home...are you scared </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
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This guy is obviously a moron. We played NC St. away last year, we play scUM every other year away, we play Texas away next year, we play at Penn St. this year. Their away games include tOSU, Wisconsin and Purdue. Which I will give them credit is tough, but I don't think that we are to blame for what games we get at home. Look at Purdue, they don't play tOSU or scUM. Go talk shit with them. I'll say it right now Iowa loses at least 2 games this season. You heard it hear first.
 
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Texasize said:
Yeah, but I thought the AP was supposed to be the non- biased poll. Who voted for Louisville ??
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Joe Giglio of the News & Observer of Raleigh, N.C., voted Louisville No. 1 after examining the schedules for all BCS conference teams. The Cardinals moved to the Big East this season.

"Louisville was the only one that I came up with as going undefeated," he said.
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This is the problem with preseason polls. Rather than voting for who they think is the best team, folks vote for who they think has the easiest schedule. Voting should not be a prediction of what you think will happen, but an estimate of each teams' relative ability.

Voting for the teams with the easy schedules becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy, and incorrectly rewards teams that avoid tough opponents.

They seriously need to publish instructions on how to vote in the preseason, and then how to vote in the regular season (based only on what happened on the field during the season-to-date once some games have been played).
 
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So everyone knows who to complain to ... :wink2:

http://www.newsday.com/sports/colle...486.story?coll=sns-ap-collegesports-headlines

AP Poll Board

By Associated Press

August 20, 2005, 12:05 PM EDT

NEW YORK -- The voters for the 2005 Associated Press college football poll:

Paul Arnett, Honolulu Star-Buletin; Steve Batterson, Quad City (Iowa) Times; Beau Bishop, WCTV-TV, Tallahassee, Fla.; John Blanchette, The Spokesman-Review, Spokane, Wash.; Jack Bogaczyk, Charleston (W.Va.) Daily Mail; Kirk Bohls, Austin (Texas) American Statesman; Rick Bozich, The Courier-Journal, Louisville, Ky.; B.G. Brooks, Rocky Mountain News, Denver;

Jimmy Burch, Fort Worth (Texas) Star-Telegram; Jim Carty, The Ann Arbor (Mich.) News; Barker Davis, The Washington Times; Mike DiRocco, Florida Times Union; Joseph Duarte, Houston Chronicle; Gregg Ellis, Northeast Mississippi Daily Journal, Tupelo, Miss.; Aaron Fentress, The Oregonian, Portland; Ray Fittipaldo, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette;

Chris Fowler, ESPN; Joe Giglio, The News & Observer, Raleigh, N.C.; Joey Goodman, The Lawton (Okla.) Constitution; Herb Gould, Chicago Sun-Times; Jeff Gravely, WRAL-TV, Raleigh, N.C.; Tim Griffin, San Antonio Express-News; Bob Hammond, Laramie (Wyo.) Boomerang; Todd Harmonson, The Orange County Register, Santa Ana, Calif.;

Doug Harris, Dayton (Ohio) Daily News; Shawn Harrison, Logan (Utah) Herald Tribune; Joseph Hawk, Las Vegas Review-Journal; Kirk Herbstreit, WBNS-AM Columbus, Ohio & ESPN; Bob Holt, Arkansas Democrat-Gazette, Little Rock; Jimmy Hyams, WNML AM-FM, Knoxville, Tenn.; Craig James, ABC; Rich Kaipust, Omaha (Neb.) World-Record;

Aditi Kinkhabwala, The Record, Bergen County, N.J.; George Lehner, WTVN-AM, Columbus, Ohio; Iliana Limon, Albuquerque (N.M.) Journal; Stewart Mandel, SI.com; Dan McDonald, Lafayette (La.) Advertiser; Susan Miller Degnan, Miami Herald; John Moredich, Tucson (Ariz.) Citizen; Tom Mulhern, Wisconsin State Journal, Madison;

John Niyo, Detroit News; Neill Ostrout, Connecticut Post, Bridgeport; Jeff Parson, Wichita (Kan.) Eagle; David Paschall, Chattanooga (Tenn.) Times Free Press; Joe Person, The State, Columbia, S.C.; Michael Pointer, The Indianapolis Star; Mike Prater, The Idaho Statesman, Boise; Scott Rabalais, The Advocate, Baton Rouge, La.

Mike Radano, Courier-Post, Cherry Hill, N.J.; Dave Rahme, The Post-Standard, Syracuse, N.Y.; Ray Ratto, San Francisco Chronicle; Doug Segrest, The Birmingham (Ala.) News; John Shipley, St. Paul (Minn.) Pioneer Press; Jay Tate, Montgomery (Ala.) Advertiser; John Tautges, Westwood One Radio; David Teel, Daily Press, Newport News, Va.

Jimmy Tramel, Tulsa (Okla.) World; Mark Tupper, Decatur (Ill.) Herald & Review Bee; Ken Tysiac, Charlotte (N.C.) Observer; Adan Van Brimmer, Savannah (Ga.) Morning News-Augusta; Mike Vega, The Boston Globe; Graham Watson, St. Louis Post-Dispatch; Jon Wilner, San Jose (Calif.) Mercury News; Doug Wilson, Bloomington (Ind.) Herald-Times; Scott Wolf, Los Angeles Daily News
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OK, what moron gave Craig James a vote?! :(
 
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AP Poll is out.

The Top 25 teams in the preseason Associated Press poll, updated Aug. 20, with first-place votes in parentheses, 2004 records, total points based on 25 points for a first-place vote through one point for a 25th-place vote and final ranking.

1. USC (60) 13-0 1,619 1
2. Texas (4) 11-1 1,500 5
3. Tennessee 10-3 1,376 13
4. Michigan 9-3 1,329 14
5. LSU 9-3 1,291 16
6. Ohio State 8-4 1,205 20
7. Oklahoma 12-1 1,204 3
8. Virginia Tech 10-3 1,184 10
9. Miami 9-3 1,142 11
10. Florida 7-5 1,080 --
11. Iowa 10-2 1,011 8
12. Louisville (1) 11-1 892 6
13. Georgia 10-2 869 7
14. Florida State 9-3 764 15
15. Purdue 7-5 711 --
16. Auburn 13-0 650 2
17. Texas A&M 7-5 576 --
18. Boise State 11-1 375 12
19. California 10-2 358 9
20. Arizona State 9-3 313 19
21. Texas Tech 8-4 256 18
22. Boston College 9-3 232 21
23. Pittsburgh 8-4 211 25
24. Fresno State 9-3 196 22
25. Virginia 8-4 153 23

Others receiving votes: Alabama 121, Oregon 97, Utah 77, Georgia Tech 62, Bowling Green 57, N.C. State 57, Colorado 38, UCLA 19, Iowa St. 18, Minnesota 18, Miami (Ohio) 15, Penn St. 11, UTEP 10, Oregon St. 8, Wisconsin 5, Clemson 3, Memphis 3, Nebraska 3, Colorado St. 1, Notre Dame 1, Southern Miss. 1, Toledo 1, West Virginia 1, Wyoming 1.


check out Notre Dame... :rofl:
Seattle Times Article, which contains the AP Poll
 
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DOH!!! how the heck did i miss it? the thread title wasn't in BOLD like it usually is when it's unread... oh well...

hmm... i didn't know that Doug Harris of the DDN had a vote...

and here's a question: since the AP pulled out of the BCS, how valid is the AP poll? personally, i think an AP Title is just as valid as a BCS Title...
 
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BB73 said:
This is the problem with preseason polls. Rather than voting for who they think is the best team, folks vote for who they think has the easiest schedule. Voting should not be a prediction of what you think will happen, but an estimate of each teams' relative ability.

Voting for the teams with the easy schedules becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy, and incorrectly rewards teams that avoid tough opponents.

They seriously need to publish instructions on how to vote in the preseason, and then how to vote in the regular season (based only on what happened on the field during the season-to-date once some games have been played).
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Exactly the reason that West Virginia was ranked as high as they were last year. Didn't really work out for them either.
 
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