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BB73 said:
This is the problem with preseason polls. Rather than voting for who they think is the best team, folks vote for who they think has the easiest schedule. Voting should not be a prediction of what you think will happen, but an estimate of each teams' relative ability.

Voting for the teams with the easy schedules becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy, and incorrectly rewards teams that avoid tough opponents.

They seriously need to publish instructions on how to vote in the preseason, and then how to vote in the regular season (based only on what happened on the field during the season-to-date once some games have been played).
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I don't think there is necessarily one correct and proper way to approach voting. How many times have you heard someone say "How can they rank team X this high? No way X goes undefeated. They have games against Y, A, and B."

One of the top ways people look to discredit human polls is by comparing the final results with the preseason results. I think you are fine as long as you are honest with yourself in terms of why you voted a particular team high. If you're honest with yourself that you voted Louisville high because of their schedule, you can appropriately punish them harder for losing than you would another team ranked #1.
 
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I don't care whether the guy was honest with himself or not, it's a foolish rationale on which to rank teams in the preseason, in my opinion.

Imagine if a lot of the pollees thought this way and Louisville was preseason #2 behind USC. Imagine further that USC, Louisville, and Ohio State all go undefeated. Should Louisville get the nod for the championship game over Ohio State, precisely because Louisville had the easier schedule (and yeah, I know the AP is no longer part of the BCS, but you could apply this thinking to any poll).

Teams that play weak schedules get rewarded enough for that during the season. This guy's thinking gives them even more reward for weak schedules before the season even starts.
 
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crazybuckfan40 said:
I like being ranked at 6. Especially with Michigan and Texas ranked ahead of us. Can you imagine if us and scUM goes undefeated up until the final game. Now that would just be crazy.
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Well now that would be simply amazing. 6 is a great place to be especially after our rebuilding year last year.
 
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Being 6th is good to let the ones in front of us get beat and we slowly creep into the top three and hopefully, which I think will happen NDC will love this ND beats Scum this year again. So let the Naysayers have UT and TSUN in front of us who cares.
 
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I am with zinc on this one. You aren't supposed to vote someone higher because they play a crap schedule, it was bullshit last year everyone did it for WV and its bullshit this year when they do it for UL..
You are ranking what team is the BEST in the country. You arent predicting who will win out. That is what the LAST poll is for. Pollsters have a hard enough time letting two winning team swap places, so because Louisville has the easier schedule they put in front of say the buckeyes, now the buckeyes have the admittedly harder schedule, if they win out and louisville wins out is this guy gonna swap them at the end of the year based on the tougher schedule? He shouldn't, he should be picking them based on who is BETTER... but louisville should have never been in front in the first place.


zincfinger said:
I don't care whether the guy was honest with himself or not, it's a foolish rationale on which to rank teams in the preseason, in my opinion.

Imagine if a lot of the pollees thought this way and Louisville was preseason #2 behind USC. Imagine further that USC, Louisville, and Ohio State all go undefeated. Should Louisville get the nod for the championship game over Ohio State, precisely because Louisville had the easier schedule (and yeah, I know the AP is no longer part of the BCS, but you could apply this thinking to any poll).

Teams that play weak schedules get rewarded enough for that during the season. This guy's thinking gives them even more reward for weak schedules before the season even starts.
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thats true, however the higher in the rankings you are the better chance you have to play for the national championship if you have the same record.

lets say we drop from #6 to #10, that would be better than dropping from #10 to #15
 
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scarletngrey77 said:
thats true, however the higher in the rankings you are the better chance you have to play for the national championship if you have the same record.
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It is a long year, one game at a time, one play at a time and never under estimate our opponet. Beating tosu is there National Championship game
 
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FKAGobucks877 said:
scUM is over-rated. Redundant, I know, but 4th? Give me a frickin' break...
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face it, the media loves scUM and they always seem to start higher than they finish. Name the last year they didn't have 3+ losses? Sure hasn't been in the last four years. Have no fear, they will drop as always
 
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